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Which one of these is best?
Rocka Rolla (1974)
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Turbo (1986)
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Ram It Down (1988)
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Jugulator (1997)
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Demolition (2001)
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Angel of Retribution (2005)
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Nostradamus (2008)
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Redeemer of Souls (2014)
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Total Votes : 17
 

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Troublezone
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Lari wrote:
I really like the production on Redeemer of Souls. Maybe because it doesn't sound so modern and samey. It's easy on the ears, alive, and stands out among an army of polished, lifeless, loud guitar walls of today's metal.

The guitars could be a tad louder (especially Tipton's), but I think I like it the way it is. I don't feel exhausted after listening to Redeemer.

It sounds muffled to me. Scott’s bass drums are especially buried.
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Troublezone wrote:
The production is terrible on Redeemer of Souls. Tipton was the producer. Firepower was 100% better with Tom Allom and Andy Sneap involved.

Yes i have to agree on this.
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I went with Ram It Down
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Lari
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Troublezone wrote:
Lari wrote:
I really like the production on Redeemer of Souls. Maybe because it doesn't sound so modern and samey. It's easy on the ears, alive, and stands out among an army of polished, lifeless, loud guitar walls of today's metal.

The guitars could be a tad louder (especially Tipton's), but I think I like it the way it is. I don't feel exhausted after listening to Redeemer.

It sounds muffled to me. Scott’s bass drums are especially buried.
You probably don't like 80's thrash metal, if you're that picky.
lol!

I don't think anything is "buried" though. It's all there. Just quite flat so you can adjust your amp and EQ settings to your liking. I'm not a fan of a big booming disproportionate bass, but you can dial it up. If the bass is emphasized, you can't really turn it down though so this is a better approach, imo.

Redeemer has two things I really appreciate: a unique sounding production and a shit load of songs. It's a tempting album to pop in because of those two things. It doesn't blend in with their other material. And there's so many songs to choose from to get a fresh sounding listening experience each time.

Charlie Bauerfiend produced albums for instance sound powerful and flawless but too samey. Later era Helloween albums could all be recorded in the same session.
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Either way I think a production is just a very small factor. If the songs are good, you can record them in a garage and it sounds good. Just like a lot of classic underground metal albums essentially are.

Redeemer of Souls has a real nice collection of Priest songs, of which many would be classics if they were released 40 years ago. March of the Damned, Hell and Back, Battle Cry are some of their best work. Cold Blooded is cool. I love Crossfire. Catchy and heavy and cool guitar harmonies.
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Lari wrote:
Troublezone wrote:
Lari wrote:
I really like the production on Redeemer of Souls. Maybe because it doesn't sound so modern and samey. It's easy on the ears, alive, and stands out among an army of polished, lifeless, loud guitar walls of today's metal.

The guitars could be a tad louder (especially Tipton's), but I think I like it the way it is. I don't feel exhausted after listening to Redeemer.

It sounds muffled to me. Scott’s bass drums are especially buried.
You probably don't like 80's thrash metal, if you're that picky.
lol!

I don't think anything is "buried" though. It's all there. Just quite flat so you can adjust your amp and EQ settings to your liking. I'm not a fan of a big booming disproportionate bass, but you can dial it up. If the bass is emphasized, you can't really turn it down though so this is a better approach, imo.

Redeemer has two things I really appreciate: a unique sounding production and a shit load of songs. It's a tempting album to pop in because of those two things. It doesn't blend in with their other material. And there's so many songs to choose from to get a fresh sounding listening experience each time.

Charlie Bauerfiend produced albums for instance sound powerful   and flawless but too samey. Later era Helloween albums could all be recorded in the same session.



You couldn’t be more wrong!  Laughing

Kill ‘Em All (for example) is old thrash but it had clear and punchy production. Not every 80’s thrash album sounded bad. But generally speaking, I did get into thrash around 1990 when the productions were improving. You can disagree with me about Redeemer, but it’s just my opinion and I have standards. I got nothing against the songwriting though...
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