They are not counting breakthrough cases ("catching Covid 19 after vaccination") unless you are hospitalized. Yet they count every positive test for Covid 19 (false positives included) in the official numbers.
Why different protocols?
Another one... News Headline... "Local hospital Covid deaths up 600% in one week" Get scared everybody! Get scared. (sarcasm) The reality... Hospital had 1 Covid death last week & 5 this week. Perspective and context change everything.
The good thing is the vaccinated can get back to normal life, and concerts and public events can get on with full capacity. We can finally move on.
It sucks to still have measures like proof of vaccination. But it's a minor inconvenience. Obviously it'd be morbidly dumb to go to a hockey game or a concert unvaccinated anyway, but we all know some would do exactly that.
So getting a booster shot every 5 months is normal?
It is morbidly dumb calling an experimental injection a vaccine when it isn't even a vaccine.
But we all know people think that it is, trust the science
Science says, "a vaccine offers immunity & stops the spread of disease/virus".
Gee, the Moderna, Pfizer and J & J shots don't do either
Of course actual scientific facts prove the opposite to be true.
But we both know facts aren't something the anti-vax conspiracy theorists care about. I just hope everyone will be fine, and I am sad some don't understand it's unnecessary to die of covid at this point, when there's a vaccine available. Go take it and be safe.
Talk about “science and facts”. Fauci is supposed to be a expert, yet he constantly changes his mind! And these are just some examples from very early on. Imagine the lies since…
By Jim Hoft Published April 25, 2020
THE LIST: Dr. Fauci’s 12 Deadly Mistakes and Contradictions — Including His Worst Mistake of Delaying Herd Immunity while destroying the US economy.
Dr. Anthony Fauci has been wrong on the coronavirus pandemic — Every step of the way! Here is a list of several errors, contradictory statements and dangerous gaffes by NIAID Director Dr. Tony Fauci:
1.) Dr. Fauci says he warned Trump in January that the US was in real trouble but that is not what he said publicly.
In January Dr. Anthony Fauci told Newsmax TV that the United States “did not have to worry” about the coronavirus and that it was “not a major threat.”
2.) Dr. Fauci warned of an apocalyptic coronavirus pandemic — then just weeks later he compared the coronavirus to a bad flu.
3.) Dr. Fauci based all of his predictions on the garbage IHME models that were OFF BY MILLIONS and then later told reporters, “You can’t really rely on models.”
4.) On March 20th Dr. Fauci jumped in and “corrected” the president during a press briefing on hydroxychloroquine treatment for coronavirus saying, “You got to be careful when you say ‘fairly effective.’ It was never done in a clinical trial… It was given to individuals and felt that maybe it worked.”
Exactly two weeks later hydroxychloroquine was deemed the most highly rated treatment for the novel coronavirus in an international poll of more than 6,000 doctors.
5.) Dr. Fauci pushed these garbage models every step of the way.
A month ago Dr. Fauci claimed 1 million to 2 million Americans would die from coronavirus. Then he said 100,000 to 200,000 Americans will die from the virus. Three weeks ago he agreed 81,766 Americans would die from the coronavirus. Then by that Wednesday the experts cut the number of deaths to 60,415 projected deaths.
6.) On Easter Dr. Fauci suggested President Trump should have shut down the economy in February… When the number of known cases in the US was around 100. Fauci later walked back his attacks.
7.) Dr. Fauci said cruises were OK on March 9th. That was a huge error.
8.) Dr. Fauci said malls, movies and gyms were OK on February 29th. That was another huge mistake.
9.) Dr. Fauci was wrong about the first coronavirus deaths in the country. Dr. Fauci, Dr. Birx and the CDC were off by nearly a month. California officials revealed Tuesday that a patient in Santa Clara died from coronavirus on February 6th not February 29th.
10.) Dr. Fauci and the CDC missed the millions and millions of US citizens who had already contracted the coronavirus before the draconian lockdowns took place. Knowing this could have prevented the economic calamity.
11.) On April 15, 2020, Fauci endorses Tinder hookups, unbelievably.
12.) And in his worst mistake Dr. Fauci relied on corrupt W.H.O rules to lock down the United States and destroy the US economy. Meanwhile, this delays the herd immunity that is needed to prevent a future outbreak of this deadly virus.
These mistakes will take years to correct.
Only in government can someone with this record still keep a job.
I keep hearing and seeing the phrase "trust the science" on my news feed. Problem is, the same people that want me to "trust the science" also believe that men can get pregnant and that there are more than two genders.
I keep hearing and seeing the phrase "trust the science" on my news feed. Problem is, the same people that want me to "trust the science" also believe that men can get pregnant and that there are more than two genders.
Whoever controls the mainstream media, controls the sheep.
James B. Scurvy Skalliwag
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Subject: Re: Covid-19 pandemic Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:19 am
Hey Lari :
Please explain how a graph showing hospitalization numbers scientifically refutes that the Moderna, Johnson & Johnson, and Pfizer shots are not vaccines, thanks.
Here in the USA, the experts and MSM pushed total death numbers to scare people, When those numbers fell far short of predictions, the narrative changed to the number of cases to propagate fear. Now it is hospitalization numbers and the unvaccinated that you are to worry about. What is next?
FYI, hospitals here get subsidized big bucks from the Federal Government for admittance & death due to WuFlu. Labs get subsidized for positive tests. (IMHDO) Any WuFlu statistics coming from the USA should be taken with a grain of salt. Greed makes people do stupid stuff, kind of like fear. Interesting how they are going hand in hand right now.
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Subject: Re: Covid-19 pandemic Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:13 am
Lari wrote:
The good thing is the vaccinated can get back to normal life, and concerts and public events can get on with full capacity. We can finally move on.
It sucks to still have measures like proof of vaccination. But it's a minor inconvenience. Obviously it'd be morbidly dumb to go to a hockey game or a concert unvaccinated anyway, but we all know some would do exactly that.
If you call being forced to show proof of vaccination normal then I feel sorry for you. I'm vaccinated, but I'll be damned if I'm going to comply with their illegal bullshit. Anyone asks me for my vaccine card can get fucked! I didn't get vaccinated to be a government puppet, and I won't let them control what I can and can't do because of some card. They refuse to let me in to places that are essential to my life, grocery store, doctors office etc etc, then I will most likely end up in jail or dead. I won't be denied my rights, and I won t bend to their bullshit communist laws. It's no "minor inconvenience", it's an outrage, and people better wake the hell up before it's too late.
exact33 The King
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Subject: Re: Covid-19 pandemic Sat Sep 04, 2021 3:40 pm
The vaccine loses efficacy as time passes (now we are told boosters needed every 5 or 6 months and pills daily), and does not prevent the transmission of covid to other people. It does mitigate symptoms for those who get it but I am still waiting for a good answer (and just blindly get the vaccine because people tell you is not satisfactory) to this question:
If the covid vaccines work so well and the vaccinated have a small percentage of serious symptoms if infected, what do the vaccinated have to fear from the unvaccinated?
Sounds to me like a population of vaccinated either do not believe a) the vaccine really works or b) do not want to give up the control covid provided.
I am not anti-vax btw. My family and I follow the normal vaccine schedules. I am very skeptical of the covid vaccine though.
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Subject: Re: Covid-19 pandemic Sat Sep 04, 2021 3:52 pm
Those tweets are great. Bunch of hypocrites!
tohostudios King Of Kaiju
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Subject: Re: Covid-19 pandemic Sun Sep 05, 2021 9:41 am
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If the covid vaccines work so well and the vaccinated have a small percentage of serious symptoms if infected, what do the vaccinated have to fear from the unvaccinated?
EXACTLY! I have no fear of going out in public without a mask because I don't give a shit if anyone is vaccinated or not since I am and I think the vaccine works well enough to mitigate any symptoms if I get covid. I just saw a news story about a music festival where attendees had to both show proof of vaccination AND where a mask. What the hell is that???? Why show a vaccination card if you have to where a mask anyway? That's obviously just a move to control people.
To me the covid shot is just like the regular flu shot (which I've never gotten). I doesn't promise you won't get covid but it does offer a good chance at having only mild symptoms if you get covid. I decided to do it mainly so I could stop living in fear. And now "the authorities" are still trying to perpetuate that fear. Sorry, I'm not playing.
I'm also not getting any "booster" until a year has gone by since my first inoculation, just like any flu shot.
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James B. Scurvy Skalliwag
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Subject: Re: Covid-19 pandemic Sun Sep 05, 2021 11:49 am
Lari wrote:
Of course actual scientific facts prove the opposite to be true.
According to mediabiasfactcheck.com, sciencenews.org is a right-wing conspiracy pseudoscience outlet. For whatever that is worth? It is hilarious to me that you, of all people used it as source material.
Onto the graph and the text above it.
1- "Cumulative rates of U.S" 13 out of 50 states (26%) is far from a national consensus, considering the varying populations of each of the 50 states. So Cherry Picking 13 states can easily manipulate stats to say whatever you want. Especially when you factor in that the data from all 50 states is available. (Science is utilizing all known variables)
2- "The data was adjusted for age" The fact that the age adjusted is omitted from info given. It changes context & perception of what one sees on the graph. (Science is based on observation) Not to mention, any adjustment of the source data (+ or -) from each state leaves an unknown variable to the cumulative numbers. Thus again manipulating the actual stats.
So when there is manipulation of data... It is not science... It is not fact..
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Subject: Re: Covid-19 pandemic Sun Sep 05, 2021 9:35 pm
Lari wrote:
James B. wrote:
Lari wrote:
The good thing is the vaccinated can get back to normal life, and concerts and public events can get on with full capacity. We can finally move on.
It sucks to still have measures like proof of vaccination. But it's a minor inconvenience. Obviously it'd be morbidly dumb to go to a hockey game or a concert unvaccinated anyway, but we all know some would do exactly that.
So getting a booster shot every 5 months is normal?
It is morbidly dumb calling an experimental injection a vaccine when it isn't even a vaccine.
But we all know people think that it is, trust the science
Science says, "a vaccine offers immunity & stops the spread of disease/virus".
Gee, the Moderna, Pfizer and J & J shots don't do either
Of course actual scientific facts prove the opposite to be true.
But we both know facts aren't something the anti-vax conspiracy theorists care about. I just hope everyone will be fine, and I am sad some don't understand it's unnecessary to die of covid at this point, when there's a vaccine available. Go take it and be safe.
Kinda like the FACT you're not gonna die of covid unless you're seriously compromised or OLD?
FOIA documents handed over to The Intercept FURTHER confirm Anthony Fauci was funding gain-of-function research in Wuhan. When will be seeing him tried for perjury (when he LIED directly to Rand Paul's face)? When will he be fired? When will he be prosecuted for funding illegal research? When will he be grilled as to why he was funding the WUHAN LAB, directly tied to the CCP, in the first place?
Starting to look more and more like Fauci funded the mess we've been in for the last 18 months.
The grant was initially awarded for a five-year period — from 2014 to 2019. Funding was renewed in 2019 but suspended by the Trump administration in April 2020.
Gain-of-function was BANNED in the U.S. in October of 2014. That means Fauci committed a FELONY.
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James B. Scurvy Skalliwag
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Subject: Re: Covid-19 pandemic Sat Sep 11, 2021 9:39 am
The current DOJ won't touch Fauci, unless it gives the current administration political currency. Just like with the criminal activities associated with Nov. 3rd, 2020, any indictments, arrests, and/or trials will have to originate at the state & local level for that proverbial first domino to tip.
Like I'm be stated for months.... Drip...Drip...Drip
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Subject: Re: Covid-19 pandemic Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:11 am
One more thing, before hittin' the road....
WH Press Secretary says, "yes" , when asked, "Americans are required to vaccinate, but illegal immigrants are not" by reporter.
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exact33 The King
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Subject: Re: Covid-19 pandemic Sat Sep 11, 2021 11:52 am
James B. wrote:
One more thing, before hittin' the road....
WH Press Secretary says, "yes" , when asked, "Americans are required to vaccinate, but illegal immigrants are not" by reporter.
This is a smorgasbord for the lawyers of America...
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Subject: Re: Covid-19 pandemic Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:16 pm
James B. wrote:
The current DOJ won't touch Fauci,
Oh, I'm not under ANY illusions that Fauci will face consequences for his maleficence. He murdered THOUSANDS with bullshit AIDS vaccines back in the late 80's / early 90's. The dude has a track record of destroying people's lives, flip-flopping his position when HIS ass might be in the sling, etc. while claiming "the science changed"
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exact33 The King
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Subject: Re: Covid-19 pandemic Sat Sep 18, 2021 10:32 am
The protests in Australia are getting real!
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Subject: Re: Covid-19 pandemic Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:49 pm
exact33 wrote:
The protests in Australia are getting real!
Good!
James B. Scurvy Skalliwag
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Subject: Re: Covid-19 pandemic Sun Sep 19, 2021 12:02 am
The narrative of requiring I.D to vote as being racist is shot down in flames with mandates requiring vaccine paperwork and valid identification for entry into businesses in NYC, especially considering that over 70% of blacks & over 60% of Latinos are not vaccinated in that city.
Crazy that people are applauding segregation
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scottmitchell74 Jada Pinkett Smith's Cabana Boy
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Subject: Re: Covid-19 pandemic Sun Sep 19, 2021 9:36 am
James B. wrote:
The narrative of requiring I.D to vote as being racist is shot down in flames with mandates requiring vaccine paperwork and valid identification for entry into businesses in NYC, especially considering that over 70% of blacks & over 60% of Latinos are not vaccinated in that city.
Crazy that people are applauding segregation
This! This! This!!!!
If this doesn't come up in debates and in State and Federal senate meetings/Congress I'll be sorely disappointed.
For what it's worth the black folk I live with are just as mystified at the absurd voter ID nonsense.
Lari Metal is Forever
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Subject: Re: Covid-19 pandemic Sun Sep 19, 2021 10:21 am
Anti-vaxxers dying of covid is the best example of winning a Darwin award.