Albums that didn't stand the test of time

Red Hot Chilli Peppers - Mothers Milk

I really liked this album when it came out but everything that they have released since has annoyed me so much that I can barely listen to it without being reminded of why I hate them.

Olafsto wrote:

I honestly can`t think of one Hair Metal album that has stood the test of time. Used to be a huge faan of Quiet Riot, Ratt, King Kobra ++, Now it all sounds dated to me.

I think there is a lot of truth here, although I wouldn't go that far.

I do still think White Lion wrote some great music. Instrumentally it's fantastic.

Temple of Blood wrote:

Olafsto wrote:

I honestly can`t think of one Hair Metal album that has stood the test of time. Used to be a huge faan of Quiet Riot, Ratt, King Kobra ++, Now it all sounds dated to me.

I think there is a lot of truth here, although I wouldn't go that far.

I do still think White Lion wrote some great music.  Instrumentally it's fantastic.

Absolutely!
Funny you should mention White Lion, i thought of saying that they were the exception. I still listen to and enjoy their albums...

Actually White Lion would be another one for me, at least Pride. When I revisited it a couple years ago I couldn't believe how terrible the production was. For me it's bad enough to ruin the songs. And Tramp was a very limited, one dimensional singer. None of this was evident when I was 15.

Albums that don't "stand the test of time" to me are not ones that I no longer listen to or have burned out on; rather they are ones I still love but they sound very dated or a product of their times due to lyrical content or their sound.

The first that comes to mind is Dokken's "Tooth and Nail." What's up with Wild Mick's drums on that album? Second is QR's "Metal Health" and third would be Keel's "Lay Down the Law. The girl talking to ( I have to assume it's Ron Keel) in the middle of "Speed Demon" makes me laugh every time.

Keel's albums did not stand the test of 10 minutes. White Lion - Fight To Survive, although, is still one of the absolute best albums of the 80's, hands down.

I don't totally understand the idea of music sounding 'dated' I think most music sounds specific to the time it was made, especially if it was a groundbreaking record. If you were to ask most people to guess when The Court of the Crimson King was made, they would get it right within a couple of years because it's a record that was absolutely of it's time and I don't get what's bad about that.

UNCLE SAXON'S KICKASS CDS wrote:

Keel's albums did not stand the test of 10 minutes.  White Lion - Fight To Survive, although, is still one of the absolute best albums of the 80's, hands down.

I don't think that I have ever heard a White Lion song in my life

Boris2008 wrote:

UNCLE SAXON'S KICKASS CDS wrote:

Keel's albums did not stand the test of 10 minutes.  White Lion - Fight To Survive, although, is still one of the absolute best albums of the 80's, hands down.

I don't think that I have ever heard a White Lion song in my life

Fight to Survive sounds very far from Pride, Big Game, and Main Attraction. For 1985, it was ahead of its' time.
You should check it out.

I didn't say it was bad and am not saying there is anything bad about a "dated" sound. I love those albums and always have. In fact, I actually look for those dated characteristics when listening to and trying to find new stuff from the '80's I don't own yet. It's hard to put into words exactly what that special something is that, for me anyway, endears me to Hawk, Icon, Armored Saint, Razormaid, or Cities ( sometimes it's sound or lyrics or production) and causes me to ceaselessly search for more and more and to wonder just how much is still out there that I haven't experienced.

Also, definitely check out White Lions "Fight to Survive" as it excellent. I actually still have my cassette copy of that one in addition to two versions of the cd.

Anything by Poison and Slaughter.

Since White Lion came up, for me they are the opposite of not standing the test of time. I had both Pride and Big Game as a kid, and I couldn't really get into them. I bought them both based on really liking "Little Fighter", but beyond that it didn't appeal to me.

Some time a couple of months ago, I read somewhere a list of great guitar players that aren't known to be great guitar players. It included dudes like John Mayer and Nuno Bettencourt and either Reb Beach or Kip Winger (or both). Also Vito Bratta. They mentioned "Hungry" specifically. I pulled up Pride on Spotify, and I have been hooked on the album since. I skip past "Wait" "When the Children Cry", mostly because of overplay, but I'm also just not a ballad dude.

White Lion ruled. I was just to lost in a cloudy haze of Crue and GNR to realize it at the time.

ZombieHavoc wrote:

Since White Lion came up, for me they are the opposite of not standing the test of time. I had both Pride and Big Game as a kid, and I couldn't really get into them. I bought them both based on really liking "Little Fighter", but beyond that it didn't appeal to me.

Some time a couple of months ago, I read somewhere a list of great guitar players that aren't known to be great guitar players. It included dudes like John Mayer and Nuno Bettencourt and either Reb Beach or Kip Winger (or both). Also Vito Bratta. They mentioned "Hungry" specifically. I pulled up Pride on Spotify, and I have been hooked on the album since. I skip past "Wait" "When the Children Cry", mostly because of overplay, but I'm also just not a ballad dude.

White Lion ruled. I was just to lost in a cloudy haze of Crue and GNR to realize it at the time.

Funny we must have read the same article, I went out and bought the White Lion discography dirt cheap and it was way better then I remember or gave them credit for at the time. Only weak spot is Mike Tramp's vocal range which goes from A to A minus, but chics dug him

I had a hard time pinning down specific albums on this, but one finally did jump forward and shout (loud and proud), "Present and Accounted For."

That album is:

Queensryche - Operation Mindcrime II

Seriously, after Tribe, I was really hoping for something that returned to past glories and, at first, I thought OMII was exactly that. Unfortunately, as I listened to the album and particularly started paying attention to the lyrics, it was like a machine had badly tried to ascertain the formula that made the first work and then just stamped it as a template over the writing. Not only is the plot nonsensical (seriously, whether Mary killed herself or was killed by Dr. X was such a side-note to the original story that basing an entire sequel to it was just idiotic), but the "social commentary" comes off like some bad poetry I would have written in my junior year of high school.

So yeah, attractive from across the room, but she looked pretty bad once the clothes came off.

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Iron Maiden - Brave New World - I was very excited about this when it was released and spun it a bunch. I don't really like much of anything on it now other than "The Wicker Man."

I'm still of the view that "The Wicker Man," "Ghost of the Navigator," and "Brave New World" are an incredible opening to an album. I would have loved to see this tour when they opened with those three songs. There are a bunch of mediocre tracks on the rest of the album, but I do like "Dream of Mirrors" and "Out of the Silent Planet."

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Dokken, Breaking the Chains - Aside from the title track this one has aged about as well as milk left in a hot driveway...and that's coming from someone who loves almost everything this band has done. (Even Shadowlife!)

I agree, I don't think I've ever listened to it one sitting. Even the title track is pretty boring. A few of their live releases breathe some life into it, but I always think it's a low point in their set.

The live versions of the Brave New World tracks from the Rock In Rio DVD smoke the studio versions in every instance. I never listen to the studio album.

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   Dokken, Breaking the Chains - Aside from the title track this one has aged about as well as milk left in a hot driveway...and that's coming from someone who loves almost everything this band has done. (Even Shadowlife!)


I agree, I don't think I've ever listened to it one sitting. Even the title track is pretty boring. A few of their live releases breathe some life into it, but I always think it's a low point in their set.

Actually this was released in europe as a solo Don Dokken album way before the international Dokken (band) release..the version under Don's name has a different mix and sounds very nice... I have the Rock Candy version and they really spiced it up and it sounds way better than the original...

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Keel's albums did not stand the test of 10 minutes.

I really disagree..I love keel and think the albums are fantastic and the steeler album is still very relevant to me...

To me Led Zeppelin sounds extremely dated...so does the Doors, CCR, Grateful Dead, Billy Idol, Heart and almost all the southern Rock bands of the 70s and 80s...thats not to say I dont listen to them (I am pretty dated myself  )...To me the worst most dated album that doesn't stand up at all is Nirvana's Nevermind...

brokentulsa wrote:

To me Led Zeppelin sounds extremely dated...so does the Doors, CCR, Grateful Dead, Billy Idol, Heart and almost all the southern Rock bands of the 70s and 80s...thats not to say I dont listen to them (I am pretty dated myself  )

Couldn't agree more! (Well, except for CCR)

*dated* is 100% subjective to the listener.

60s and 70s recordings don't sound dated to me at all.  But the over-produced 80s crap sure does....

Mostly instrumental sounds and production techniques.  Analog instrumentation like electric pianos, Hammond organs, Wurlitzer, Fender Rhodes, Mellotron and analog synths don't sound dated to me at all.  

But all the 80s synths, fairlight programming, drum machines, triggered drums, gated snare sound, digital chorus pedals, digital delay and all that other digital drek sounds laughable to me now.

I'm also sick to death of the 80s active-pickup, sold-state-amp, mid-scoop EQ guitar sound that just about every band used.

I'm not the only one either, because most of the "revolutionary" production techniques of the 80s were dropped like rotten potatoes in the early 90s, never to be heard from again.

Dated also doesn't mean bad to me. Stuff that sounds dated to me is stuff like Thor or Nitro. I still enjoy both, but they sound dated.

I'm not sure being dated is what this thread was about.

I thought it was about albums you loved that now you realize were never that great to begin with.