Combining Use Your Illusion 1 and 2 into one album.

How would you combine them into one album (assuming you are like me and do not feel that 2 albums were necessary)?

If it were cut down to 12 or so tracks, I feel it could've kicked some serious ass. Maybe still not as much as AfD, but the momentum could've been there:

1.Right Next Door to Hell

2. Perfect Crime

3. Back off Bitch

4. Double Talkin' Jive

5. Garden of Eden

6. Don't Damn Me

7. Yesterdays

8. Get in the Ring

9. Shotgun Blues

10. You Could Be Mine

11. Pretty Tied Up

If you cut those albums down to one I would only have one coaster.

***CAUTION!! FAN-BOY RESPONSE JUST AHEAD***

I like 'em fine just as they are. Love 'em all.

MetalGuy71 wrote:

***CAUTION!! FAN-BOY RESPONSE JUST AHEAD***

I like 'em fine just as they are. Love 'em all.

Same here. Although apparently this was done at some point :

http://www.sortmusic.com/_g/guns-and-roses-albums,up720642446324,len.html

ZombieHavoc wrote:

How would you combine them into one album (assuming you are like me and do not feel that 2 albums were necessary)?

If it were cut down to 12 or so tracks, I feel it could've kicked some serious ass. Maybe still not as much as AfD, but the momentum could've been there:

1.Right Next Door to Hell

2. Perfect Crime

3. Back off Bitch

4. Double Talkin' Jive

5. Garden of Eden

6. Don't Damn Me

7. Yesterdays

8. Get in the Ring

9. Shotgun Blues

10. You Could Be Mine

11. Pretty Tied Up

While I dig them both and am a huge GnR fanboy, I agree in that I never understood why the two albums? Where's Civil War?

T-Roy wrote:

ZombieHavoc wrote:

How would you combine them into one album (assuming you are like me and do not feel that 2 albums were necessary)?

If it were cut down to 12 or so tracks, I feel it could've kicked some serious ass. Maybe still not as much as AfD, but the momentum could've been there:

1.Right Next Door to Hell

2. Perfect Crime

3. Back off Bitch

4. Double Talkin' Jive

5. Garden of Eden

6. Don't Damn Me

7. Yesterdays

8. Get in the Ring

9. Shotgun Blues

10. You Could Be Mine

11. Pretty Tied Up

While I dig them both and am a huge GnR fanboy, I agree in that I never understood why the two albums? Where's Civil War?

At first I put Civil War on there. I really like that tune. However, I felt it would mess up the momentum of the other 11 songs. If anything, I would tack it on at the end, so try as to not slow things down. I just didn't think it worked with all the other tracks.

There are songs I like that I did not included. I was just trying to give it an Appetite style shot of adrenalin.

SHAME ON YOU! that's one of the best ones?!

Here is my choices for the desirable tracks:

1. Right Next Door to Hell

2. Don't Damn Me

3. The Garden

4. Civil Wars

5. November Rain

6. Dead Horse

7. 14 Years

8. Yesterdays

9. Breakdown

10. Pretty Tied Up

12. You Could Be Mine

13. Coma

And these are in no particular order either. Just the tracks that I tend to listen to the most. I can't remember the last time that I actually listened to Estranged or So Fine.

Other then 'My World' which blows chunks, I like the albums just the way they are.

jettafiend wrote:

Here is my choices for the desirable tracks:

1. Right Next Door to Hell

2. Don't Damn Me

3. The Garden

4. Civil Wars

5. November Rain

6. Dead Horse

7. 14 Years

8. Yesterdays

9. Breakdown

10. Pretty Tied Up

12. You Could Be Mine

13. Coma

And these are in no particular order either. Just the tracks that I tend to listen to the most. I can't remember the last time that I actually listened to Estranged or So Fine.

No Knocking on Heaven's Door!!???

I'm not sure if I've ever heard either of these records all the way through, I was SO burned out on Appetite getting played literally to death (I still can't tolerate it all these years later) that I never bothered.

I do like November Rain though, great arrangement.

I love November rain, Civil War and Knockin' on Heaven's Door. Actually, I only don't like a 3 or 4 songs.

I always thought that if they took the best tracks from both of them and put out one single CD, it would have been considered another classic by fans and media alike. Instead the two albums are looked back on as nothing more than rock star excess.

T-Roy wrote:

jettafiend wrote:

Here is my choices for the desirable tracks:

1. Right Next Door to Hell

2. Don't Damn Me

3. The Garden

4. Civil Wars

5. November Rain

6. Dead Horse

7. 14 Years

8. Yesterdays

9. Breakdown

10. Pretty Tied Up

12. You Could Be Mine

13. Coma

And these are in no particular order either. Just the tracks that I tend to listen to the most. I can't remember the last time that I actually listened to Estranged or So Fine.

No Knocking on Heaven's Door!!???

The covers are horrible, now if I was to to put the cover of Sympathy for the Devil in the mix then that could be arranged...

S.D. wrote:

I'm not sure if I've ever heard either of these records all the way through, I was SO burned out on Appetite getting played literally to death (I still can't tolerate it all these years later) that I never bothered.

I do like November Rain though, great arrangement.

Same here except I hate November Rain.

ultmetal wrote:

I always thought that if they took the best tracks from both of them and put out one single CD, it would have been considered another classic by fans and media alike. Instead the two albums are looked back on as nothing more than rock star excess.

I believe they did want to do just that, but the record company wouldn't let em, because they just wanted to charge people serperately. I wouldn't say that people look back at the albums as "rock star excess", quite a few people look back at them as classics.

Vexer6 wrote:

ultmetal wrote:

I always thought that if they took the best tracks from both of them and put out one single CD, it would have been considered another classic by fans and media alike. Instead the two albums are looked back on as nothing more than rock star excess.

I believe they did want to do just that, but the record company wouldn't let em, because they just wanted to charge people serperately. I wouldn't say that people look back at the albums as "rock star excess", quite a few people look back at them as classics.

There's also quite a few songs that were written before and around the time of Appetite that didn't make the cut, so they were polished up for the Illusion albums. And they had time to write more tunes while on the road, touring for Appetite.

Basically, they had an over abundance of songs, so the thought was "get them all out there while the band is on top and the fans are begging for more". I believe it was the record company's idea to release 2 seperate albums instead of one double-album like the band wanted.

Any chance of cutting them both down to "0" cds? I really think that would benefit humanity best.

UNCLE SAXON'S KICKASS CDS wrote:

Any chance of cutting them both down to "0" cds? I really think that would benefit humanity best.

That'll be enough outta you, mister. Don't make me edit my response in the "epitome of cool" thread to Axl, Axl and Axl.

MetalGuy71 wrote:

UNCLE SAXON'S KICKASS CDS wrote:

Any chance of cutting them both down to "0" cds? I really think that would benefit humanity best.

That'll be enough outta you, mister. Don't make me edit my response in the "epitome of cool" thread to Axl, Axl and Axl.

ahhhhhhhahahahhaa. You got me. The thought that you were the epitome of uncool creeped into my mind...but just for a second. I should have known better!

Something similar happened with Judas Priest, Turbo and Ram It Down were originally supposed to be one double-album called "Twin Turbos" with the more commercial stuff on one disc and the heavier stuff on the other disc, but like with GnR, the record company wanted to make as much money as possible, so they split it into two releases.

UNCLE SAXON'S KICKASS CDS wrote:

Any chance of cutting them both down to "0" cds? I really think that would benefit humanity best.

But then Spec would only have "1" coaster.

Vexer6 wrote:

Something similar happened with Judas Priest, Turbo and Ram It Down were originally supposed to be one double-album called "Twin Turbos" with the more commercial stuff on one disc and the heavier stuff on the other disc, but like with GnR, the record company wanted to make as much money as possible, so they split it into two releases.

Same thing happened with Opeth's Deliverance & Damnation albums. Recorded at the same time, one heavy album, one mellow album originally intended to be released together as a double...split in two by the record label and released a year apart.

ZombieHavoc wrote:

How would you combine them into one album (assuming you are like me and do not feel that 2 albums were necessary)?

If it were cut down to 12 or so tracks, I feel it could've kicked some serious ass. Maybe still not as much as AfD, but the momentum could've been there:

1.Right Next Door to Hell

2. Perfect Crime

3. Back off Bitch

4. Double Talkin' Jive

5. Garden of Eden

6. Don't Damn Me

7. Yesterdays

8. Get in the Ring

9. Shotgun Blues

10. You Could Be Mine

11. Pretty Tied Up

Personally I like em as 2 albums, but Ill play along

Heres my picks

1) Civil War
2) So Fine
3) Estranged
4) November Rain
5) Don't Damn Me
6) Don't Cry (Orignal)
7) Dust N Bones
Coma
9) Yesterday's
10) Double Talkin Jive
11) You Could Be Mine
12) Breakdown
13) Back Off Bi*ch
Bonus:
1) Don't Cry (Alt)
2) Shadow Of Your Love (B-side)

I actually do like most of the songs on both albums.

I just agree with what Ult said about if it had been widdled down to one solid record, it would be considered far more of a classic. I know they are still considered classic rock n roll records, but not like Appetite (though, I don't think anything they did would've been able to end up being viewed like Appetite).

And many of the songs, while good, just slow down the momentum of the albums.

And "My World" does suck, but I have so much fun listening to it. One day I will make a comp of all the rock bands doing bad rap songs in the early/mid 90s. GNR, Duff from his solo record, Danger Danger, Obituary...I know there are more.