Geoff Tate

Boris2008 wrote:

S.D. wrote:

We're not going out of our way to bash the guy. We're simply talking about it.

Now I don't really mind people going out of their way to bash the guy, I've even joined in at times, but that statement is right up there with

"I did not have sex with that woman" - Bill Clinton

aaannnd!

"I am not a crook" - Richard Nixon



Maybe you should run for President?

That wasn't my quote.

S.D. wrote:

Boris2008 wrote:

S.D. wrote:

We're not going out of our way to bash the guy. We're simply talking about it.

Now I don't really mind people going out of their way to bash the guy, I've even joined in at times, but that statement is right up there with

"I did not have sex with that woman" - Bill Clinton

aaannnd!

"I am not a crook" - Richard Nixon



Maybe you should run for President?

That wasn't my quote.

Good point!! (I knew that it wasn't you, i just deleted the wrong bit )

edit, fixed that in order to avoid mis-quoting you (although this bit is gonna look a bit weird now!! )

And the quote, at least for me, was completely accurate.

Eyesore wrote:

And the quote, at least for me, was completely accurate.

During the course of this objective discussion you have called Geoff Tate "a trainwreck" "a sociopath" and "a c*nt"

That's not bashing the guy?

Boris2008 wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

And the quote, at least for me, was completely accurate.

During the course of this objective discussion you have called Geoff Tate "a trainwreck" "a sociopath" and "a c*nt"

That's not bashing the guy?

I've never said we weren't bashing him. Here is my full quote:

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I'm not sure why some of you have an issue with us discussing this. It's relevant. We're not going out of our way to bash the guy. We're simply talking about it.

Note the "it's relevant" part. Are we going "out of our way," as in going to extremes, making huge leaps in logic and assumption, to insult him? Not at all. We are, however, having a discussion based on facts, his own actions. That's normal.

Here he goes again.....

QUEENSRŸCHE's TATE: This Is First Time 'Mindcrime' Has Been Performed Without Backing Tapes - June 5, 2013

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=190878

In a brand new interview with TimesLeader.com, singer Geoff Tate spoke about his current QUEENSRŸCHE tour, which celebrates the 25th anniversary of the band's "Operation: Mindcrime" album.

"I guess I'm not very nostalgic as a person," Tate said when asked if performing the LP straight through each night bring back any memories from 25 years ago. "I enjoy it immensely, playing this album on this last leg of the tour. It's actually the first time that 'Mindcrime' has been performed live, and by that I mean the musicians actually playing the instruments. With QUEENSRŸCHE, we were always very limited. We had grand ideas and we didn't want to limit ourselves in the studio by saying, 'We can't do that live, so let's not do it on the record.' We didn't want to think in those terms, so when it came time to play the music live, it would require more people on the stage performing than what we could afford, for example, and so what we did was we went the click-track route. When we first started doing this, it was a much more primitive kind of method, but the click track would dictate the song and then we had flown in parts, sections like orchestra and backup vocals and things like that, on tape that would play to fill out the sound and make it sound more like the record. On the plus side, it was very economical to do that. But on the downside, it didn't give us any room to experiment with the songs. We couldn't improvise… You're not even listening to each other play anymore, so you lose that human element of a band that's coming together and you're not playing with each other anymore. With the presentation I'm involved with now with the guys, we're playing everything live… It's a much more organic presentation of the music, which for me is incredible because I haven't had that before. It's a whole new frontier. It's a whole new feel to the music, which I find to be incredibly exciting."

Tate also spoke about his vocal technique and whether he has to train consistently to keep his voice in good condition.

"Yeah, well, I have to sing a lot," he said. "The voice is a muscle, you know, and you have to keep working it out. I start pretty early in the morning. When I get up, first thing I start doing scales and humming and that kind of thing and getting my voice up to par. By mid-day, I'm singing fairly loudly and carrying on. It's an all-day kind of thing. It is rather challenging, though, when you're touring because it used to be that you'd go out on the road and you had a show and pretty much you just waited until that point in the day, which is usually evening, before you actually had to sing. But nowadays, the industry being what it is, you get up at four o'clock in the morning for a six o'clock radio show where you have to perform…and then have another appearance later in the day where you're doing things, and then you have a soundcheck and a meet-and-greet and a sound check party, and then you have your performance and then you have another meet-and-greet after that. By the time you get to bed at night, it's two or three in the morning and hopefully you don't have a radio show to do at six again the next day."

Yeah, according to most here Geoff has 0 redeeming qualities and the other guys are musical geniuses who couldn't possibly release a dud. It's laughable how one-sided the whole thing is. I just can't believe that these songs that have been released so far would be noticed here if someone had posted them saying that they were from an unsigned band. Also funny how emotional and personal some people take another band's drama. The idea that Parker What's-his-face is going to write his first songs ever on this new album and they are going to be great is so remote. It says a lot about how desperate they are for material that he is even contributing. We're talking about a multi-platinum band here and they are putting amateurs at the wheel, it's not like they are a local band getting started. Without DeGarmo and Tate's voice, I'm not sure QUEENSRYCHE even has a musical style at all. I will say that the drums sound a heck of a lot better than the guitars, which could have been written and played by anyone. Both camps have just disintegrated into nothing.

thejokeriv wrote:

Here he goes again.....

QUEENSRŸCHE's TATE: This Is First Time 'Mindcrime' Has Been Performed Without Backing Tapes - June 5, 2013

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=190878

In a brand new interview with TimesLeader.com, singer Geoff Tate spoke about his current QUEENSRŸCHE tour, which celebrates the 25th anniversary of the band's "Operation: Mindcrime" album.

"I guess I'm not very nostalgic as a person," Tate said when asked if performing the LP straight through each night bring back any memories from 25 years ago. "I enjoy it immensely, playing this album on this last leg of the tour. It's actually the first time that 'Mindcrime' has been performed live, and by that I mean the musicians actually playing the instruments. With QUEENSRŸCHE, we were always very limited. We had grand ideas and we didn't want to limit ourselves in the studio by saying, 'We can't do that live, so let's not do it on the record.' We didn't want to think in those terms, so when it came time to play the music live, it would require more people on the stage performing than what we could afford, for example, and so what we did was we went the click-track route. When we first started doing this, it was a much more primitive kind of method, but the click track would dictate the song and then we had flown in parts, sections like orchestra and backup vocals and things like that, on tape that would play to fill out the sound and make it sound more like the record. On the plus side, it was very economical to do that. But on the downside, it didn't give us any room to experiment with the songs. We couldn't improvise… You're not even listening to each other play anymore, so you lose that human element of a band that's coming together and you're not playing with each other anymore. With the presentation I'm involved with now with the guys, we're playing everything live… It's a much more organic presentation of the music, which for me is incredible because I haven't had that before. It's a whole new frontier. It's a whole new feel to the music, which I find to be incredibly exciting."

Tate also spoke about his vocal technique and whether he has to train consistently to keep his voice in good condition.

"Yeah, well, I have to sing a lot," he said. "The voice is a muscle, you know, and you have to keep working it out. I start pretty early in the morning. When I get up, first thing I start doing scales and humming and that kind of thing and getting my voice up to par. By mid-day, I'm singing fairly loudly and carrying on. It's an all-day kind of thing. It is rather challenging, though, when you're touring because it used to be that you'd go out on the road and you had a show and pretty much you just waited until that point in the day, which is usually evening, before you actually had to sing. But nowadays, the industry being what it is, you get up at four o'clock in the morning for a six o'clock radio show where you have to perform…and then have another appearance later in the day where you're doing things, and then you have a soundcheck and a meet-and-greet and a sound check party, and then you have your performance and then you have another meet-and-greet after that. By the time you get to bed at night, it's two or three in the morning and hopefully you don't have a radio show to do at six again the next day."

Jesus. I can only imagine him spilling this in a wife beater with a backwards visor, chugging Monster energy drinks and wearing white sunglasses. Yeah I'm stereotyping but this is douchey, douchey crap. "The voice is a muscle, you know, and you have to keep working it out." No shit, Sherlock.

Temple of Blood wrote:

Yeah, according to most here Geoff has 0 redeeming qualities and the other guys are musical geniuses who couldn't possibly release a dud. It's laughable how one-sided the whole thing is. I just can't believe that these songs that have been released so far would be noticed here if someone had posted them saying that they were from an unsigned band. Also funny how emotional and personal some people take another band's drama. The idea that Parker What's-his-face is going to write his first songs ever on this new album and they are going to be great is so remote. It says a lot about how desperate they are for material that he is even contributing. We're talking about a multi-platinum band here and they are putting amateurs at the wheel, it's not like they are a local band getting started. Without DeGarmo and Tate's voice, I'm not sure QUEENSRYCHE even has a musical style at all. I will say that the drums sound a heck of a lot better than the guitars, which could have been written and played by anyone. Both camps have just disintegrated into nothing.

At this point, Geoff has very few redeeming qualities. All this recent claim of his is aimed at is justifying why his backing band sucks live. Oh, they're not playing to a click track, it's organic and improvised. Please.

As for the rest...well, your views on music in general just don't jive with mine. I don't see how anything you've said is relevant, to be honest.

corplhicks wrote:

thejokeriv wrote:

Here he goes again.....

QUEENSRŸCHE's TATE: This Is First Time 'Mindcrime' Has Been Performed Without Backing Tapes - June 5, 2013

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=190878

In a brand new interview with TimesLeader.com, singer Geoff Tate spoke about his current QUEENSRŸCHE tour, which celebrates the 25th anniversary of the band's "Operation: Mindcrime" album.

"I guess I'm not very nostalgic as a person," Tate said when asked if performing the LP straight through each night bring back any memories from 25 years ago. "I enjoy it immensely, playing this album on this last leg of the tour. It's actually the first time that 'Mindcrime' has been performed live, and by that I mean the musicians actually playing the instruments. With QUEENSRŸCHE, we were always very limited. We had grand ideas and we didn't want to limit ourselves in the studio by saying, 'We can't do that live, so let's not do it on the record.' We didn't want to think in those terms, so when it came time to play the music live, it would require more people on the stage performing than what we could afford, for example, and so what we did was we went the click-track route. When we first started doing this, it was a much more primitive kind of method, but the click track would dictate the song and then we had flown in parts, sections like orchestra and backup vocals and things like that, on tape that would play to fill out the sound and make it sound more like the record. On the plus side, it was very economical to do that. But on the downside, it didn't give us any room to experiment with the songs. We couldn't improvise… You're not even listening to each other play anymore, so you lose that human element of a band that's coming together and you're not playing with each other anymore. With the presentation I'm involved with now with the guys, we're playing everything live… It's a much more organic presentation of the music, which for me is incredible because I haven't had that before. It's a whole new frontier. It's a whole new feel to the music, which I find to be incredibly exciting."

Tate also spoke about his vocal technique and whether he has to train consistently to keep his voice in good condition.

"Yeah, well, I have to sing a lot," he said. "The voice is a muscle, you know, and you have to keep working it out. I start pretty early in the morning. When I get up, first thing I start doing scales and humming and that kind of thing and getting my voice up to par. By mid-day, I'm singing fairly loudly and carrying on. It's an all-day kind of thing. It is rather challenging, though, when you're touring because it used to be that you'd go out on the road and you had a show and pretty much you just waited until that point in the day, which is usually evening, before you actually had to sing. But nowadays, the industry being what it is, you get up at four o'clock in the morning for a six o'clock radio show where you have to perform…and then have another appearance later in the day where you're doing things, and then you have a soundcheck and a meet-and-greet and a sound check party, and then you have your performance and then you have another meet-and-greet after that. By the time you get to bed at night, it's two or three in the morning and hopefully you don't have a radio show to do at six again the next day."

Jesus. I can only imagine him spilling this in a wife beater with a backwards visor, chugging Monster energy drinks and wearing white sunglasses. Yeah I'm stereotyping but this is douchey, douchey crap. "The voice is a muscle, you know, and you have to keep working it out." No shit, Sherlock.

That's actually the non-douchey part of the interview.

Eyesore wrote:

Temple of Blood wrote:

Yeah, according to most here Geoff has 0 redeeming qualities and the other guys are musical geniuses who couldn't possibly release a dud. It's laughable how one-sided the whole thing is. I just can't believe that these songs that have been released so far would be noticed here if someone had posted them saying that they were from an unsigned band. Also funny how emotional and personal some people take another band's drama. The idea that Parker What's-his-face is going to write his first songs ever on this new album and they are going to be great is so remote. It says a lot about how desperate they are for material that he is even contributing. We're talking about a multi-platinum band here and they are putting amateurs at the wheel, it's not like they are a local band getting started. Without DeGarmo and Tate's voice, I'm not sure QUEENSRYCHE even has a musical style at all. I will say that the drums sound a heck of a lot better than the guitars, which could have been written and played by anyone. Both camps have just disintegrated into nothing.

At this point, Geoff has very few redeeming qualities. All this recent claim of his is aimed at is justifying why his backing band sucks live. Oh, they're not playing to a click track, it's organic and improvised. Please.

As for the rest...well, your views on music in general just don't jive with mine. I don't see how anything you've said is relevant, to be honest.

Nailed it Ken!!!!

Eyesore wrote:

Temple of Blood wrote:

Yeah, according to most here Geoff has 0 redeeming qualities and the other guys are musical geniuses who couldn't possibly release a dud. It's laughable how one-sided the whole thing is. I just can't believe that these songs that have been released so far would be noticed here if someone had posted them saying that they were from an unsigned band. Also funny how emotional and personal some people take another band's drama. The idea that Parker What's-his-face is going to write his first songs ever on this new album and they are going to be great is so remote. It says a lot about how desperate they are for material that he is even contributing. We're talking about a multi-platinum band here and they are putting amateurs at the wheel, it's not like they are a local band getting started. Without DeGarmo and Tate's voice, I'm not sure QUEENSRYCHE even has a musical style at all. I will say that the drums sound a heck of a lot better than the guitars, which could have been written and played by anyone. Both camps have just disintegrated into nothing.

At this point, Geoff has very few redeeming qualities. All this recent claim of his is aimed at is justifying why his backing band sucks live. Oh, they're not playing to a click track, it's organic and improvised. Please.

As for the rest...well, your views on music in general just don't jive with mine. I don't see how anything you've said is relevant, to be honest.

I have to agree with eyesore, your views on music ToB are completely opposite of mine.

Of course an unsigned band wouldn't have been noticed. So? And who is getting emotional other then thinking it's funny. You seem more worked up then we do TOB.

Dark Horseman wrote:

Of course an unsigned band wouldn't have been noticed. So?

I may not have explained myself well, but this just proves how average their new music is. It wouldn't win the blindfold Pepsi challenge against some other unknown power metal band or QR clone from yesteryear. They never could've built a fanbase in the first place from this kind of material.

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And who is getting emotional other then thinking it's funny. You seem more worked up then we do TOB.

I'm just trying to be objective about music and not join Team Todd or whatever. I don't get myself worked into a tizzy about the personalities of the performers.

This this this this ^


Listening to 'Rage For Order' and sometimes I just wonder why they even tried at all to make anything after 'Mindcrime'. It can't be done.

manny wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

Temple of Blood wrote:

Yeah, according to most here Geoff has 0 redeeming qualities and the other guys are musical geniuses who couldn't possibly release a dud. It's laughable how one-sided the whole thing is. I just can't believe that these songs that have been released so far would be noticed here if someone had posted them saying that they were from an unsigned band. Also funny how emotional and personal some people take another band's drama. The idea that Parker What's-his-face is going to write his first songs ever on this new album and they are going to be great is so remote. It says a lot about how desperate they are for material that he is even contributing. We're talking about a multi-platinum band here and they are putting amateurs at the wheel, it's not like they are a local band getting started. Without DeGarmo and Tate's voice, I'm not sure QUEENSRYCHE even has a musical style at all. I will say that the drums sound a heck of a lot better than the guitars, which could have been written and played by anyone. Both camps have just disintegrated into nothing.

At this point, Geoff has very few redeeming qualities. All this recent claim of his is aimed at is justifying why his backing band sucks live. Oh, they're not playing to a click track, it's organic and improvised. Please.

As for the rest...well, your views on music in general just don't jive with mine. I don't see how anything you've said is relevant, to be honest.

I have to agree with eyesore, your views on music ToB are completely opposite of mine.

i am this camp too. I think it all just comes to which band sounds better and to me, its Toddryche.

Looks like The Geoff is trying to do one last rush job album before he loses the Queensryche name in November

GEOFF TATE Is Already Working On A New QUEENSRŸCHE Record - June 7, 2013

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=190955

Will C. Franklin of FairfaxTimes.com recently conducted an interview with QUEENSRŸCHE vocalist Geoff Tate. A couple of excerpts from the chat follow below.

FairfaxTimes.com: I don't know how much you can talk about it, but can you talk a little from your perspective about the band breakup and how damaging it may be having two QUEENSRŸCHEs out there?

Tate: Well, I think that it's definitely challenging, yeah, definitely. In a business sense, you know? We're basically competing against each other right now, which is no fun. I mean, it's hard enough out there, you know, touring and competing against other bands and that kind of thing for the touring dollar. It's hard enough doing that without competing against yourselves, basically. Yeah, very difficult. But November is the date for the reconciliation, we hope, of the lawsuit. So hopefully it'll all be over by then.

FairfaxTimes.com: I don't know what your plans are with how long you plan on doing this, but is there something for you after QUEENSRŸCHE? At some point, do you say, "I've had enough. I want to do something else now"?

Tate: [laughs] I've had enough and I want out? [laughs] You know, I don't know. I enjoy it. I like making music. I write all the time. I have tons and tons of songs and projects I'm working on — I'm already working on a new QUEENSRŸCHE record. I started about a month ago. It's in the works. It's what I do, you know? I write and I make songs and I make records and I perform live. I don't know how else to define myself. [laughs] Maybe I'll get to a point, you know, where I'm interested in something else as much, but I have a passion for it. For me, it's important to follow my passions.

FairfaxTimes.com: Is there any chance whatsoever of the core group getting back together?

Tate: I don't think so. I think we've completed our chapter as a group. It's moved on and probably went too long as it was. It's a good thing that it's done and we're all moving on. I wish that we could have settled this whole thing in a much more gentlemanly way and not have it plastered all over the Internet every day. [laughs] That's something I really wish would have happened. But it is what it is, and we work with what we have and we'll get through it and get to the other side. Which is what I'm doing. I'm just waiting for November to come and in the meantime continuing to make records and tour and having a good time doing it.

Read the entire interview from FairfaxTimes.com.

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Looks like The Geoff is trying to do one last rush job album before he loses the Queensryche name in November

Sometimes I wonder if he's actively trying to ruin the Queensryche name on purpose before he loses it, just to f*ck over the other guys.

Fat Freddy wrote:

Sometimes I wonder if he's actively trying to ruin the Queensryche name on purpose before he loses it, just to f*ck over the other guys.

i am pretty confident this is the reason.

exact33 wrote:

Fat Freddy wrote:

Sometimes I wonder if he's actively trying to ruin the Queensryche name on purpose before he loses it, just to f*ck over the other guys.

i am pretty confident this is the reason.

I does seem that way "FU! I'm Geoff Tate! You can't fire me! If I can't have the name then I will make sure that no one can!!"

GT is what we call in HR a "security risk." This is a person that has to be let go for cause (i.e. poor performance, theft or in GT's case workplace violence.) When you let this type of person go, you make sure that security personnel is near by just in case they are needed. In the IT world, once the person is terminated, they would not be allowed to even touch their computer (they might do something to the internal systems, i.e. release a virus to disable the system, take intellectual property with them)

That would be pretty stupid thing for him to go purposely ruin the name. Even if he loses the case, and has to tour under his name, runing the name Queensryche is going ruin his own name in the process. He worked for over 20 years in Queensryche, so why destroy your own legacy, even if you are no longer part of the band, this does not make good business sense.

manny wrote:

this does not make good business sense.

You know that, and I know that, and everybody else knows that, but it seems that TheGeoff and "sense" had a parting of the ways quite some time ago

manny wrote:

That would be pretty stupid thing for him to go purposely ruin the name. Even if he loses the case, and has to tour under his name, runing the name Queensryche is going ruin his own name in the process. He worked for over 20 years in Queensryche, so why destroy your own legacy, even if you are no longer part of the band, this does not make good business sense.

throwing your fans cell phones away, calling them vulgar names, spitting on your fellow business associates and launching a contest for people to tell you how bad your album is does not smack of good business sense.

exact33 wrote:

manny wrote:

That would be pretty stupid thing for him to go purposely ruin the name. Even if he loses the case, and has to tour under his name, runing the name Queensryche is going ruin his own name in the process. He worked for over 20 years in Queensryche, so why destroy your own legacy, even if you are no longer part of the band, this does not make good business sense.

throwing your fans cell phones away, calling them vulgar names, spitting on your fellow business associates and launching a contest for people to tell you how bad your album is does not smack of good business sense.

Also added to the list: threatening to quit the band if your wife isn't hired as the band manager, locking the band out of writing and recording sessions and releasing sub-par products, letting your wife and band manager use company funds on another band that she manages, selling intellectual band property as your own work (Operation:Mindcrime) to a movie producer then moving the pre-paid money to your own account to keep it away from the other 4 people that created the intellectual property, the list could go on and one

...and yet the free promotional machine on the internet continues to crank out Geoff Tate news on an almost daily basis. "No such thing as bad press". All the internet haters out there that wish he'd retire and just sell wine are keeping his name alive and kicking...giving him mountains of exposure. "The Geoff" is sitting back, laughing and saying THANKS for saving him money on promotional costs.