Geoff Tate

S.D. wrote:

...and yet the free promotional machine on the internet continues to crank out Geoff Tate news on an almost daily basis. "No such thing as bad press". All the internet haters out there that wish he'd retire and just sell wine are keeping his name alive and kicking...giving him mountains of exposure. "The Geoff" is sitting back, laughing and saying THANKS for saving him money on promotional costs.

i am not sure that is exactly true - FU sold 5,500 units in its first week. Before all this started, Dedicated to Chaos sold 8,000 in its initial week. King and Thieves sold less in its initial week - 1,800. You can try to find other reasons but in the end, even as people talk about him, they are buying his stuff less and less.

Might not be bad press but he's not moving many albums. It well be very intersting to see what happens when the other 'ryche's album comes out.

exact33 wrote:

S.D. wrote:

...and yet the free promotional machine on the internet continues to crank out Geoff Tate news on an almost daily basis. "No such thing as bad press". All the internet haters out there that wish he'd retire and just sell wine are keeping his name alive and kicking...giving him mountains of exposure. "The Geoff" is sitting back, laughing and saying THANKS for saving him money on promotional costs.

i am not sure that is exactly true - FU sold 5,500 units in its first week. Before all this started, Dedicated to Chaos sold 8,000 in its initial week. King and Thieves sold less in its initial week - 1,800. You can try to find other reasons but in the end, even as people talk about him, they are buying his stuff less and less.

His bad press is having the same effect as Lindsey Lohan's bad press (i.e. noone wants to see her in any movies)

Bad press+good product=free promotion that is beneficial

Bad press+poor product=free promotion that only leads to you reading your name in print

Fat Freddy wrote:

Quick question for anyone who may have purchased "Frequency Unknown" and then taken Cleopatra Records up on that "free remixed CD" offer...

When you e-mailed them your receipt/proof of purchase for the CD, did you get an e-mail back from them showing that your message was received? Cuz I didn't. I was expecting to at least get an automated response ("Thank you for your message") kinda thing, but...nope.

Fabulous customer service, I must say.

I'm just curious, cuz my friend asked me "Hey did you get your remix CD yet?" and I was like "Ummm...no." I had totally forgotten that I'd even contacted them about it. Haha. It's been about a week since I e-mailed them.

My freebie remix CD came in the mail today. Thanks, Geoff!

Life changing?

Dark Horseman wrote:

Life changing?

Dunno yet. I haven't had a chance to listen to it yet to see if it's "improved" at all.

Fat Freddy wrote:

Dark Horseman wrote:

Life changing?

Dunno yet. I haven't had a chance to listen to it yet to see if it's "improved" at all.

The funny thing is you have to listen again to find out

Fat Freddy wrote:

Dark Horseman wrote:

Life changing?

Dunno yet. I haven't had a chance to listen to it yet to see if it's "improved" at all.

I heard MYTHbusters is updating the "polish a turd" episode and the CD in your hands is the proof.....

The Geoff thinks a small group of people are running a smear campaign and are trying to "create" a personality for him....... and during this interview about his Mindcrime tour says that he is "not interest" in looking back.....

Umm..... The Geoff has been giving us more than enough to discuss without having to "create" a new personality for him.


GEOFF TATE Says That He Is The Victim Of An Internet 'Smear Campaign' - June 8, 2013

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=191003

TheyWillRockYou.com: No matter what happens with the pending litigation regarding ownership of the name later this year, as a QUEENSRŸCHE fan, I can't see why others can't sit back and enjoy both and take each for what it is..new music. Why do you think fans feel the need to "take sides?"

Tate: Because we're in litigation (November court date is set to decide who has the right to use the QUEENSRŸCHE name: Geoff Tate or Michael Wilton, Eddie Jackson and Scott Rockenfield), there is a concerted effort to create a personality for me, to try and create a smear campaign, really. They have a pretty sizable amount of people that are participating in that. If you do a little bit of research, you will find that most of the negative comments are coming from a small group of people that have multiple Internet sites and multiple Facebook sites. Multiple personalities are really arguing with themselves, in a sense. As Americans, we love our controversy

TheyWillRockYou.com: Is there a QUEENSRŸCHE album of material that you will simply not play live now or in the future?

Tate: I can't really think of one — not off hand. Honestly, I'm not that interested in looking back. I'm more focused in what's going on in the present. When you perform live, you kind of have to play material from the past, because that's what fans know the most. Your audience almost "tolerates" any new material in your set. Music needs time to sit with people. I try not to perform that many new songs in a set because the audience simply doesn't know them that well. I will probably wait a few years before you play it live. Gives the fans time to get a feel for it and understand it better. These songs off "Mindcrime" people have been listening to for 25 years now. It means more to them.

Geoff - people don't know the new songs because they are not that good...i

exact33 wrote:

Geoff - people don't know the new songs because they are not that good...i

Pretty much! People are already singing along to the new songs at the real Queensryche shows

A smear campaign? Is this guy completely nuts? With all the stunts he's pulled, i'm not sure Sharon Osbourne would be his publicist.

Dark Horseman wrote:

A smear campaign? Is this guy completely nuts? With all the stunts he's pulled, i'm not sure Sharon Osbourne would be his publicist.

There is a guy permanently on the YouTube comments section posting under different names, who's mission in life is to ridicule Geoff Tate and anyone who dares to say that they like that song.

There are lots of bands that I used to love who are now pretty crappy, there are loads of rock stars who I used to respect who have proven themselves to be douchebags. I just don't understand the level of hatred towards Tate. There is a certain famous rock drummer with a proven history of leaving the women in his life with fewer teeth than they had before he came along, and even he doesn't inspire that kind of hatred!! In fact Dave Holland gets less abuse and he did time for interfering with children!!

Boris2008 wrote:

Dark Horseman wrote:

A smear campaign? Is this guy completely nuts? With all the stunts he's pulled, i'm not sure Sharon Osbourne would be his publicist.

There is a guy permanently on the YouTube comments section posting under different names, who's mission in life is to ridicule Geoff Tate and anyone who dares to say that they like that song.

Yes, but The Geoff also has his nutswinggers whose mission to ridicule Queesnryche anytime something is posted on youtube, blabbermouth or anywhere on the internet. Once of them was recently outed as being Jason Slater. "Mr. Mish" on blabbermouth is a Tate ID and most of the posting under that name is done by GT's daughter, Miranda. Several other posters are part of The Geoff's organization who he pays to troll the boards.

The guy is funding his own "smear" campaign against his former business partners..... the vast majority of what people are saying about Tate on the internet is because of his own actions. If you can't handle critics, then don't get on the stage. If you are a douche, you will be called out for it, especially in the internet age.

That said, honestly, there are a few people out there getting their 15 minutes of fame with the anti-tater tot stuff. We have free speech in this country - these people have the same right to post and say what they want, just as much as GT does. Some of it is pretty darn funny.

BTW - got the GT from when I met Eddie Jackson, he referred to Geoff as GT when ever someone asked him a question about it.

Boris2008 wrote:

Dark Horseman wrote:

A smear campaign? Is this guy completely nuts? With all the stunts he's pulled, i'm not sure Sharon Osbourne would be his publicist.

There is a guy permanently on the YouTube comments section posting under different names, who's mission in life is to ridicule Geoff Tate and anyone who dares to say that they like that song.

There are lots of bands that I used to love who are now pretty crappy, there are loads of rock stars who I used to respect who have proven themselves to be douchebags. I just don't understand the level of hatred towards Tate. There is a certain famous rock drummer with a proven history of leaving the women in his life with fewer teeth than they had before he came along, and even he doesn't inspire that kind of hatred!! In fact Dave Holland gets less abuse and he did time for interfering with children!!

What did it for me was the epk video and how he thinks the last several qr CDs were fantastic and most of the fans are childish for wanting material like the older albums.

Tate seems to put way too much emphasis on what he wants people to think than what they actually do think. My problem stems with him continually insulting the intelligence of others, while painting a picture of himself that just doesn't jive. I wish somebody would take his crayons away from him or something.

Listening to "F.U.".....the song "Life Without You" is really good.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM-ouxZGSnk

So is "The Weight Of The World"...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRk5oTwIPxQ‎

OK, so I listened to my freebie "remixed" version of F.U. a couple of times over the weekend... and honestly, I can't tell the diff between it and the supposedly "terrible" original mix. Either I don't have the trained ear for such things, or my audio equipment (i.e. the stereo in my truck) isn't high end enough for me to catch any subtle changes/nuances.

In other words, nothing jumped out at me and made me say "Oh yeah, that sounds totally different."

(Shrugs) Whatever.

Sean, you're right about Weight of the World. A few more like that and i'd buy his album.

Fat Freddy wrote:

OK, so I listened to my freebie "remixed" version of F.U. a couple of times over the weekend... and honestly, I can't tell the diff between it and the supposedly "terrible" original mix. Either I don't have the trained ear for such things, or my audio equipment (i.e. the stereo in my truck) isn't high end enough for me to catch any subtle changes/nuances.

In other words, nothing jumped out at me and made me say "Oh yeah, that sounds totally different."

(Shrugs) Whatever.

I felt the same way. The only difference I noticed the most was the re-recorded songs. The drums were different.

"In The Hands Of God" is pretty good too...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YeLdIaTsSM

Its not that the songs are bad, because its actually better than DTC, but its not a "Queensryche" album.

There are three songs on F.U. that I really like: "Cold," "Slave," and "Everything." The rest is somewhere between "Meh" and "zzzzzzz."