Vivian Campbell resurrecting the Dio band?

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

ultmetal wrote:

I sort of see it as 'keeping the music alive', at least that's how I see it in the case of Thin Lizzy. It's not like they are recording new music under that name.

http://www.bravewords.com/news/182800

Ahhhh well, at least Brian Downey is back in the band, along with Gorham.

Dio is different though. Dio is named after Ronnie. It's long been his solo band with various members in and out.

Wow! Dick move. Dude should be ashamed.

Dark Horseman wrote:

Screw Joe. Take him and his bloody too tight knickers and twist 'em tight. He's lucky I love the first few albums 'cause he's a jolly wanker these days.

Don't make me come over there, fucko!

Bring it! I have hung with DL for years, even found some things to like with Sparkle Lounge but Joe is an idiot running around saying they were never metal. I remember them coming back after the drummers accident and saying it was time to take the metal crown back.

ultmetal wrote:

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

ultmetal wrote:

I sort of see it as 'keeping the music alive', at least that's how I see it in the case of Thin Lizzy. It's not like they are recording new music under that name.

http://www.bravewords.com/news/182800

Ahhhh well, at least Brian Downey is back in the band, along with Gorham.

Dio is different though. Dio is named after Ronnie. It's long been his solo band with various members in and out.

I'm sure they won't call it "Dio"...

AND they'll concentrate on the Viv albums...

So, um... what about Dio Disciples?


Do you think Jorn is going fill in with the OGs?

Viv Campbell stated many many times he did not enjoy the music he did with Dio, etc, to see him change his perspective on the music he created with Dio, is unexpected but like Shawn said maybe Dio's death gave him a different perspective.

Dark Horseman wrote:

Bring it! I have hung with DL for years, even found some things to like with Sparkle Lounge but Joe is an idiot running around saying they were never metal. I remember them coming back after the drummers accident and saying it was time to take the metal crown back.

You need to take into account that the term "metal" has changed, though. What was metal in the 70s is surely not metal now.

I began listening to Def Leppard in the late 80s. I never thought they were a metal band, even when I went back and got their earlier albums. Metallica was metal to me, so Def Leppard was in no way "metal" to my ears.

manny wrote:

Viv Campbell stated many many times he did not enjoy the music he did with Dio, etc, to see him change his perspective on the music he created with Dio, is unexpected but like Shawn said maybe Dio's death gave him a different perspective.

Even if it did, though, he can't take back all the things he said, you know. I mean, he can, but he should keep it to himself. Reconcile that in his own heart. Him going back after Dio's death, in my opinion, is absurdly disrespectful. Or it seems that way to me.

This is truly shocking news. Campbell was a very very big part of the success of the band and having all of the orginal members together lends credence to the tribute to the music that made their careers. All the stuff that went back and forth between Campbell and Dio certainly had perspective and context that isn't portrayed or presented. The words they spoke maybe shouldn't have made it to the public, but did anyway. Is it disrespectful, not sure, but I'm certainly surprised by this. I remember that black Les Paul.

I hate crap like this. For these four guys to be back together to create new music in a similar vein to DIO but under a different monicker, that could be cool. But I hate tribute's with very few exceptions. I dont get the "in rememberence" part either. We're talking Ronnie James 'kin DIO here - he won't be forgotten.

That's the last thing i ever expected. Really? Campbell? That sfincter want to play the Dio Songs? Holy smurf poo. Either he had some creepy next-dimensional visit from Dio or he himself woke up to see that he hasn't done anything good since Holy Diver and Last in Line.
At least the news confirms that Claude Schnell is still alive, because i lost track after his one Y&T album appearance and the DIO albums

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

Listen, I get everyone's issues with this, I just wanted to make a couple points:

- Vivian doesn't need to "cash in"...he makes plenty of money touring with Def Leppard for the last 20 years

But some people can't make enough money, they want more, more, more and even though i guess with DL and Thin Lizzy, Campbell made some good amount of money, we shouldn't say that he suddenly made an 180° just because...um...i don't know of any good reason as Campbell thrashed Dio on various accounts.
Maybe Dio showed up in his dreams and turned his head right, stuff like that doesn't happen in reality, so it's natural to assume, he's just in it for the money or possibly he saw that he had the most fun and played his best guitar stuff with Dio and not those kitten rockers from Def Leppard

Eyesore wrote:

I began listening to Def Leppard in the late 80s. I never thought they were a metal band, even when I went back and got their earlier albums. Metallica was metal to me, so Def Leppard was in no way "metal" to my ears.

Agreed. Def Leppard never seemed remotely "metal" to me. They are a rock band, plain and simple.

whatever Leppard was or wasn't.......Joe didn't rebuke any of the magazines or cable TV networks back in the early 80's for calling them a metal band. Oh well.

I say good for Vivian. He wrote the tunes and I'm sure Ronnie's estate will get it's fair share of any benefits. Vivian has alot of talent and has wasted it (my opinion) for the sake doing what he thought best to provide for his family. Hope the best for him and the other band members.

S.D. wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

I began listening to Def Leppard in the late 80s. I never thought they were a metal band, even when I went back and got their earlier albums. Metallica was metal to me, so Def Leppard was in no way "metal" to my ears.

Agreed. Def Leppard never seemed remotely "metal" to me. They are a rock band, plain and simple.

They were metal to me. I discovered them at the same time as bands like Saxon and Motorhead in the early 80's. Metalshop on WMMR (or was it WYSP?) use to play Wasted and Rock Brigade. I also discovered Yngwie Malmsteen from that show. They use to play Steeler and the Metalshop 'sound' was the buzzsaw guitar thing that Ynqwie did. Anyhow, to me and my friends, Def Leppard were metal in those early days. Metallica weren't even around yet and when they were, theye were a thrash band. Judas Priest, Saxon, Motorhead, Def Leppard, Iron Maiden, Raven, UFO, Venom, Tygers, etc. were all British heavy metal.

Vivian nailed the solo on Rainbow in the Dark like he recorded the song yesterday. He's a jerk that said some mean things, but he sure can play!

Vivian Campbell is a wanker.

...sorry, I just feel compelled to say that whenever his name is mentioned.

Supposedly Dio's wife Wendy fired Vivian from the band because he wanted the same amount money Dio got. I hate when money gets in the way of good music...

Of course Def Leppard was a metal band in the 80's. To say otherwise is revisionist history. I think their best work is on their first two albums and they pretty much fell off a cliff with Hysteria + Adrenalize.

Also, Viv Campbell is still an ass.

It's not revisionist history if you've always felt that way. I'm my opinion, Leppard is a hard rock band, I felt that way in 1982, I still feel that way 30 years later. No revisionism in sight.

I think you guys are too harsh. The guy may be a jerk, but he did write those tunes. He had a fallout with Dio and harsh words were said, and now Dio is no longer in the band and he can go back playing his own tunes. At least he is bringing back all the original members too.

From that standpoint I'd rather go see Vivo-Dio than Dio-Lande with whoever's in that band these days. Besides, I'm sure Vivian will stick to first two albums, and Dio Disciples can exploit all the rest.

My first cassette tape I owned back in 1984 was TDK C90 with Pyromania on one side, and Out of the Cellar on the other. I still know those albums by heart and they sure are 100% pure metal to me.

In fact I worship everything Leppard up to Hysteria, and if I have to choose between Dio and DL, I'll have a hell of a hard time to do so.

I think Viv has grown bored and even frustrated in Leppard. I was so sad to see Clark pass, but I was quite excited to hear that Viv got the Leppard job. Yet, for whatever reason, he ended up as a second guitarist to Collen, mostly performing rhytm, despte being a better player IMO. Also, the few songs he has written were often amongst the best on the respective albums, stuff like Work It Out, Demolition Man, Paper Sun, Day After Day, Crusie Control etc. He mentioned to the press last year that performing with Thin Lizzy was much more satisfying as a guitar player and hat he wished Leppard would go back to High N Dry type of songwriting next, which probably wont happen.

stormspell wrote:

My first cassette tape I owned back in 1984 was TDK C90 with Pyromania on one side, and Out of the Cellar on the other. I still know those albums by heart and they sure are 100% pure metal to me.

I guess its up to personal preference what can be passed as this or that, in this case Metal. Even back in the Pyro-days, Leppard got some slagging for the likes of Photograph being too Pop. Whatever, if something gets my foot tapping and I dig it, I dont really care what its called. And Im well aware that a lot of stuff I like wouldnt even be considered Metal to younger persons, in this day and age. And thats ok.

S.D. wrote:

It's not revisionist history if you've always felt that way. I'm my opinion, Leppard is a hard rock band, I felt that way in 1982, I still feel that way 30 years later. No revisionism in sight.

Of course you can say they were hard rock, the revisionism I was referring to was that of the band itself who claims they weren't heavy metal. That is pure nonsense as they were definitely part of the NWOBHM and they presented themselves, at the time, as heavy metal. Obviously they changed their sound over time but the band runs away from their heavy metal past.

Witchfinder wrote:

S.D. wrote:

It's not revisionist history if you've always felt that way. I'm my opinion, Leppard is a hard rock band, I felt that way in 1982, I still feel that way 30 years later. No revisionism in sight.

Of course you can say they were hard rock, the revisionism I was referring to was that of the band itself who claims they weren't heavy metal. That is pure nonsense as they were definitely part of the NWOBHM and they presented themselves, at the time, as heavy metal. Obviously they changed their sound over time but the band runs away from their heavy metal past.

That's business sense, if you ask me.