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Eyesore
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EmoElmo wrote:
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Metallica - And Justice For All

I thought it was the greatest thing ever back in the day... The production is crap, and the songs drag on too long.
A lot of people say this, but I think the production is the best Metallica ever had. Lars' drums never sounded better. And even if there is "no bass," it's totally not needed.

Argh, the mixing is terrible, Seems like they forgot the Mids here, Snare drums predominate and you can hear Lars' fake (layered) drumming all over, makes you wonder how mediocre of a drummer he is, the volume level I believe is only 89 decibels, which is way too low for a Metal record, Ironically, the Rawness and production flaws actually helped to achieve define the overall 'feel' of the album.
Jesus. That again. There is no fake drumming on that album.
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Mglaffas81 wrote:
EmoElmo wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
Troublezone wrote:
Metallica - And Justice For All

I thought it was the greatest thing ever back in the day... The production is crap, and the songs drag on too long.
A lot of people say this, but I think the production is the best Metallica ever had. Lars' drums never sounded better. And even if there is "no bass," it's totally not needed.

Argh, the mixing is terrible, Seems like they forgot the Mids here, Snare drums predominate and you can hear Lars' fake (layered) drumming all over, makes you wonder how mediocre of a drummer he is, the volume level I believe is only 89 decibels, which is way too low for a Metal record, Ironically, the Rawness and production flaws actually helped to achieve define the overall 'feel' of the album.
What!? Justice features Lars' best drumwork EVER! "Fake" drumming? Please specify. I also love the way his snare sounds, it's great! Lars really peaked on this album, and being a drummer myself, I can really appreciate it.
There is nothing to specify. It's a silly "Hate Lars" rumor that cropped up years ago. People insist they were chopping up tape and splicing it all together to make Lars' drum work sound more impressive. They insist he never played that stuff.

Only he played it live without issue. Go figure, huh?
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The mix on Justice is horrendous, including the drum sound.
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Asia-Astra

I found this in the cutout bin back in 1987 when I was 10. I LOVED this album back then. Today, I haven't the foggiest idea why I enjoyed it so much.
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I can honestly say that there is no album I used to love but don't anymore.
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S.D. wrote:
The mix on Justice is horrendous, including the drum sound.

I agree
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I'll admit that Lars's drumming is more technical on AJFA. But he really struggled... From what i've heard, it took him several retakes to get it right. (especially the last song)

Gene Hoglan would've had the drums done in one day. (and a lot better)
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Troublezone wrote:
I'll admit that Lars's drumming is more technical on AJFA. But he really struggled... From what i've heard, it took him several retakes to get it right. (especially the last song)

Gene Hoglan would've had the drums done in one day. (and a lot better)





Well, as Eyesore stated, he played the songs flawlessly live, so "from what you've heard" doesn't really say much. It's all people base their hate on, they hear something from somewhere and perceive it as fact. Lars' drumming was fantastic on that album - And Gene Hogland could never have done the same, since they are two very different drummers.
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Mglaffas81 wrote:
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I'll admit that Lars's drumming is more technical on AJFA. But he really struggled... From what i've heard, it took him several retakes to get it right. (especially the last song)

Gene Hoglan would've had the drums done in one day. (and a lot better)





Well, as Eyesore stated, he played the songs flawlessly live, so "from what you've heard" doesn't really say much. It's all people base their hate on, they hear something from somewhere and perceive it as fact. Lars' drumming was fantastic on that album - And Gene Hogland could never have done the same, since they are two very different drummers.

Flawless? Are you sure you were sober when you saw him play?
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Troublezone wrote:
Mglaffas81 wrote:
Troublezone wrote:
I'll admit that Lars's drumming is more technical on AJFA. But he really struggled... From what i've heard, it took him several retakes to get it right. (especially the last song)

Gene Hoglan would've had the drums done in one day. (and a lot better)





Well, as Eyesore stated, he played the songs flawlessly live, so "from what you've heard" doesn't really say much. It's all people base their hate on, they hear something from somewhere and perceive it as fact. Lars' drumming was fantastic on that album - And Gene Hogland could never have done the same, since they are two very different drummers.

Flawless? Are you sure you were sober when you saw him play?

Hmmm, well judging from the "Live Sh!t: Binge and Purge" shows, I'd say he did a pretty damn good job!
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Mglaffas81 wrote:
Troublezone wrote:
Mglaffas81 wrote:
Troublezone wrote:
I'll admit that Lars's drumming is more technical on AJFA. But he really struggled... From what i've heard, it took him several retakes to get it right. (especially the last song)

Gene Hoglan would've had the drums done in one day. (and a lot better)





Well, as Eyesore stated, he played the songs flawlessly live, so "from what you've heard" doesn't really say much. It's all people base their hate on, they hear something from somewhere and perceive it as fact. Lars' drumming was fantastic on that album - And Gene Hogland could never have done the same, since they are two very different drummers.

Flawless? Are you sure you were sober when you saw him play?

Hmmm, well judging from the "Live Sh!t: Binge and Purge" shows, I'd say he did a pretty damn good job!

Like live albums can't be manipulated. Razz

(Not really the emicon I was wanting to put on there. Where's the stirring the pot smiley?)
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I never listen to the same album twice. One and done. Why do so many of you continue to live in the past?
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do a google search for "and Justice for Jason" & you'll find the Justice album with some bottom end in it. it's what i always play when i want to hear AJFA.

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ACDC "Blow Up Your Video"


My personal opinion, I believe Blow Up Your Video is the worst thing AC/DC ever thought about!

Stiff Upper Lip and Black Ice are even better!

I bought the album when I was a diehard fan (the day it was released) and I was disappointed majorly.

I guess it doesn't qualify for me to say this album for this thread!

I'll say Bon Jovi's New Jersey and Keep The Faith albums. I played them to death when they were newer.

Now, I just don't get into them anymore.
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Metal Misfit wrote:
I never listen to the same album twice. One and done. Why do so many of you continue to live in the past?

Cause we like Jethro Tull

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I liked both Tempest lps and Scarlet Red when they first came out. Listened to them recently and laughed to myself, "well it wasn't cause I was on drugs then"

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James B. wrote:
Metal Misfit wrote:
I never listen to the same album twice. One and done. Why do so many of you continue to live in the past?

Cause we like Jethro Tull

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James B. wrote:
I liked both Tempest lps and Scarlet Red when they first came out. Listened to them recently and laughed to myself, "well it wasn't cause I was on drugs then"

Ouch - those are pretty bad!
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James B. wrote:
I liked both Tempest lps and Scarlet Red when they first came out. Listened to them recently and laughed to myself, "well it wasn't cause I was on drugs then"

I always thought the guitar playing on the Scarlet Red disc was decent, not great, but he had a good tone for hair metal.
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Slipknot - Iowa

I used to love that album. I went back and listened to it a few months ago for kicks, and it just gets on my nerves :\
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Klank - Still Suffering

Six Feet Deep - Struggle



Just lost interest. There's a few others like that.
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