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PostSubject: Re: NLTM July '11 Update   NLTM July '11 Update - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Jul 07, 2011 1:45 pm

Vexer6 wrote:
Sorry you didn't like Blue Tears much, guess sending you that one wasn't such a great idea lol!

It's very Def Leppard/Hysteria-ish. The recording is over-polished, sterile and digital. The lyrics are so cheesy and obviously written to "score some chicks". The vocalist is quite good. I guess I get pretty harsh on the 80's pop stuff. If the guitars had some grit to 'em and the overall sound was a bit more hard rock, it would have been a much better album IMO and the cheesy lyrics would be easily overlooked. I mean, rock and roll ain't rocket science, but the recording strips the rock and roll right out of the band and reduces them to an 80's pop band.

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PostSubject: Re: NLTM July '11 Update   NLTM July '11 Update - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Jul 07, 2011 1:49 pm

ultmetal wrote:
Vexer6 wrote:
Sorry you didn't like Blue Tears much, guess sending you that one wasn't such a great idea lol!

It's very Def Leppard/Hysteria-ish. The recording is over-polished, sterile and digital. The lyrics are so cheesy and obviously written to "score some chicks". The vocalist is quite good. I guess I get pretty harsh on the 80's pop stuff. If the guitars had some grit to 'em and the overall sound was a bit more hard rock, it would have been a much better album IMO and the cheesy lyrics would be easily overlooked. I mean, rock and roll ain't rocket science, but the recording strips the rock and roll right out of the band and reduces them an 80's pop band.
The difference being that Blue Tears was never more than decent, while Hysteria is FRICKIN' BRILLIANT, you sonofabitch!
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PostSubject: Re: NLTM July '11 Update   NLTM July '11 Update - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Jul 07, 2011 2:13 pm

There we go, I was waiting for that response from Ken.

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PostSubject: Re: NLTM July '11 Update   NLTM July '11 Update - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Jul 07, 2011 2:38 pm

I didn't mind the lyrics that much actually, they sound pretty good when you compare them to the absolutley banal lyrics in most of today's popular music(Maroon 5 "She Will Be Loved" easily takes the cake for WORST lyrics of all time) I can understand your complaints about the recording being overly digital, though I personally dug the sound. I heard the bands follow-up albums "Innocent Ones" and "Mad, Bad and Dangerous" were less commercial then the debut, but unfortuantely I wasn't able to find those albums anywhere for a decent price. Gregg Wilkerson was definitely a phenomenal vocalist, so I was crushed when he died last year Sad
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PostSubject: Re: NLTM July '11 Update   NLTM July '11 Update - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Jul 07, 2011 3:37 pm

Vexer6 wrote:
Gregg Wilkerson was definitely a phenomenal vocalist, so I was crushed when he died last year Sad

I saw that when doing research on the band. That's a bummer. He was definitely a good vocalist. I'm pretty sure I noted that in my review.

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PostSubject: Re: NLTM July '11 Update   NLTM July '11 Update - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Jul 07, 2011 4:01 pm

Hysteria is "frickin' brilliant MARKETING", the music is banal and ultimately forgettable, like most all pop-metal.


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Shawn D. wrote:
Hysteria is "frickin' brilliant MARKETING", the music is banal and ultimately forgettable, like most all pop-metal.
Wrong.
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PostSubject: Re: NLTM July '11 Update   NLTM July '11 Update - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Jul 07, 2011 4:38 pm

Eyesore wrote:
Shawn D. wrote:
Hysteria is "frickin' brilliant MARKETING", the music is banal and ultimately forgettable, like most all pop-metal.
Wrong.

Your opinion. The above is my opinion. Neither right nor wrong.
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Shawn D. wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
Shawn D. wrote:
Hysteria is "frickin' brilliant MARKETING", the music is banal and ultimately forgettable, like most all pop-metal.
Wrong.
Your opinion. The above is my opinion. Neither right nor wrong.
But where was this brilliant marketing that went on? The album sold moderately well after two singles and only blew up after the third single. Doesn't sound like brilliant marketing to me, just persistence paying off.
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Eyesore wrote:
Shawn D. wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
Shawn D. wrote:
Hysteria is "frickin' brilliant MARKETING", the music is banal and ultimately forgettable, like most all pop-metal.
Wrong.
Your opinion. The above is my opinion. Neither right nor wrong.
But where was this brilliant marketing that went on? The album sold moderately well after two singles and only blew up after the third single. Doesn't sound like brilliant marketing to me, just persistence paying off.

moronic public comes into play there.
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Hey hey now, fight nice! NLTM July '11 Update - Page 2 12087

While I don't care for the recording, I can certainly see the mass appeal. It's hooky pop for sure.

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Shawn D. wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
Shawn D. wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
Shawn D. wrote:
Hysteria is "frickin' brilliant MARKETING", the music is banal and ultimately forgettable, like most all pop-metal.
Wrong.
Your opinion. The above is my opinion. Neither right nor wrong.
But where was this brilliant marketing that went on? The album sold moderately well after two singles and only blew up after the third single. Doesn't sound like brilliant marketing to me, just persistence paying off.
moronic public comes into play there.
Ah, you've got all angles covered then.
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PostSubject: Re: NLTM July '11 Update   NLTM July '11 Update - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Jul 07, 2011 5:00 pm

Like I said, it's my opinion, I have the right to have it and you have the right to disagree with it.

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Shawn D. wrote:
Like I said, it's my opinion, I have the right to have it and you have the right to disagree with it.


Very true you have a right to your opinion, even if its WRONG!!!! Smile
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PostSubject: Re: NLTM July '11 Update   NLTM July '11 Update - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Jul 07, 2011 6:25 pm

It's cool, you guys can keep on jamming to music aimed and marketed at 12-17 year old girls, doesn't bother me any.
lol!
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Shawn D. wrote:
It's cool, you guys can keep on jamming to music aimed and marketed at 12-17 year old girls, doesn't bother me any.
lol!
I know it's wrong, but I just can't quit Danger Danger Sad

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I still like Dokken, so we're even.
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PostSubject: Re: NLTM July '11 Update   NLTM July '11 Update - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Jul 07, 2011 7:29 pm

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Nice to see some Styx there, btw.

You can thank our own Vexer6 for that. He hooked me up with Killroy Was Here, so then I had to get Grand Illusion.

Get "Equinox" and "Pieces of Eight" next, probably their best albums.BTW, I kinda got the impression you disliked Styx from the review of Nocturnal Rites' Grand Illusion.
I'd also recommend the British band Magnum, awesome prog/melodic hard rock .Get their first five or six albums (On A Storyteller's Night is considered by most to be their best album).
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Hey Ult, have you ever considered picking up some Porcupine Tree?
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PostSubject: Re: NLTM July '11 Update   NLTM July '11 Update - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Jul 07, 2011 7:50 pm

After all this Blue Tears talk I decided to read the review and noticed a typo:

2nd paragraph, 3rd line, change "is the obligatory ballads" to "are ...." Next sentence, after "Halfway to Heaven" eliminate the comma and put "is." A few lines later change "if that's not enough for your" to "... you."

Love your review of Blue Tears. I was cracking up quite a bit.


Also, just reading some Nazareth reviews now:
Razamanaz review, you have "scarred parents," which you might intend on, but I was thinking maybe you meant "scared"?

Loud n Proud review, 2nd paragraph, 5th line, "'Loud 'n Proud' is most know for" change to "....known for"

News review, 1st line, delete "a" before "Nazareth."

Big Dogz review, 2nd paragraph change "Big Dog's Gonna How" to "... Howl." Change "Hair of a Dog" to "Hair of the Dog." 3rd paragraph, change "whose happily married" to "who's ..." Also as you quote some lyrics I'm not sure how to change them but "When you chasing..." is missing something, be it 're, were, are.
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PostSubject: Re: NLTM July '11 Update   NLTM July '11 Update - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Jul 07, 2011 9:31 pm

TheGreatDuck wrote:
ultmetal wrote:


TheGreatDuck wrote:
Nice to see some Styx there, btw.

You can thank our own Vexer6 for that. He hooked me up with Killroy Was Here, so then I had to get Grand Illusion.

Get "Equinox" and "Pieces of Eight" next, probably their best albums.BTW, I kinda got the impression you disliked Styx from the review of Nocturnal Rites' Grand Illusion.
I'd also recommend the British band Magnum, awesome prog/melodic hard rock .Get their first five or six albums (On A Storyteller's Night is considered by most to be their best album).

Will get some more Styx eventually. I'm familiar with most of their 70's catalog, having owned it on vinyl years ago.


Tur-Thalion wrote:
Hey Ult, have you ever considered picking up some Porcupine Tree?

I'm know the name, don't know the music.

Tur-Thalion wrote:

Love your review of Blue Tears. I was cracking up quite a bit.


Glad you like it. It's just the vibe it gave me when listening to it. Thanks for the proofing as well.

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Finally. Someone who didn't think the newest Disturbed sucks
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The_Jayroh wrote:
Finally. Someone who didn't think the newest Disturbed sucks

I don't understand why anyone who likes Disturbed in general wouldn't like their latest. It's basically more of the same.

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You were a lot more lenient with Pantera's GSTK than I thought you would be. (considering your distaste of everything post CFH)
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PostSubject: Re: NLTM July '11 Update   NLTM July '11 Update - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Jul 08, 2011 11:48 pm

ultmetal wrote:
Tur-Thalion wrote:
Hey Ult, have you ever considered picking up some Porcupine Tree?

I'm know the name, don't know the music.

Unfortunately I don't have a spare cd to send your way, but I think you'd like them. Their material since 2001 has been heavily infused with metal (courtesy of Opeth), and I think it's some of the best prog around these days.

Below is the album opener from their 2001 album In Absentia, "Blackest Eyes." Sweet riffs, good vocals, and overall a pretty good representation of their sound.

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