Subject: Re: Ignorant video blog! Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:48 pm
ultmetal wrote:
mc666 wrote:
TheNazgul wrote:
I heard Scott snacks on kittens.
i know my wife appreciates when i do.
Thanks. I was gonna say something like that, but thought it might be in bad taste. LOL! Glad you said it for me.
i didnt satanic bands worried about being in bad taste
I feel bad for these types of people after awhile. The AV1611 site was amusing at first but it is sad...
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GrandNational Metal is in my blood
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Subject: Re: Ignorant video blog! Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:28 pm
ultmetal wrote:
mc666 wrote:
TheNazgul wrote:
I heard Scott snacks on kittens.
i know my wife appreciates when i do.
Thanks. I was gonna say something like that, but thought it might be in bad taste. LOL! Glad you said it for me.
MC and Ult, I can always count on your humor.
Olafsto Metal is in my blood
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Subject: Re: Ignorant video blog! Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:37 pm
troublemagnet wrote:
She needs to bring a cot to her local gym and consume nothing but carrots. She needs to be chained to a treadmill and made to exercise 16 hours a day. I know God does not judge on the outward appereance, but she is so ugly she should kill herself.If she was pretty, I highly doubt she would waste her time with "spiritual matters" she would be too busy staring at her self in the mirror, shopping and gold-digging men. Since she is super-ugly she turns to religion as a crutch because she sure as hell doesn't have any male suitors. The only reason I'm a chrisitan is because I don't want to go to hell, that's it. I wish Jesus and Satan could have their war somewhere else and let me live in a paradise somewhere.
You are funny. Some times
DallasBlack Zooey Addict
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Subject: Re: Ignorant video blog! Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:57 pm
I won't even bother watching the video, the thread tells me all I need to know about this "woman".
ryanmetalman Metal graduate
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Subject: Re: Ignorant video blog! Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:22 pm
Not that anyone here needs convincing, but here is a decent comeback:
GrandNational Metal is in my blood
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Subject: Re: Ignorant video blog! Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:22 pm
I think I've written this before, but I personally don't see two different creatures called "secular" and "christian" metal. If your model of reality separates these two types of bands/music as something good or bad, right or wrong, then it's perhaps time to examine your own belief system and what really matters in your life/heart. Listening to Mayhem or Morbid Angel is not going to make me any more evil than I already am or persuade me to accept their philosophical viewpoints. Neither is listening to Mortification going to make me want to accept the viewpoint of Steve Rowe or whoever feels like calling their music "Jesus Metal" whatever that is. It's all just entertainment, these artists just want to make a few bucks, and I don't doubt the sincerity of the artists on either ends of the spectrum, but one day, we all just need to grow up and accept the fact that it's just entertainment business. Making silly video's like these is just a waste of time made by a bunch of people who have allowed fear and ignorance to rule over their lives and skewed their viewpoints on reality.
OK, I will now get off my soapbox and this thread.
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thejokeriv Metal is my Life
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Subject: Re: Ignorant video blog! Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:52 pm
This woman wouldn't be so uptight if she got laid. As troublezone so kind pointed out, it's probably a problem for her.....
powermacho Heart of Metal
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Subject: Re: Ignorant video blog! Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:57 pm
GrandNational wrote:
I think I've written this before, but I personally don't see two different creatures called "secular" and "christian" metal. If your model of reality separates these two types of bands as something good or bad, right or wrong, then it's perhaps time to examine your own belief system and what really matters in your life/heart. Listening to Mayhem or Morbid Angel is not going to make me any more evil than I already am or persuade me to accept their philosophical viewpoints. Neither is listening to Mortification going to make me want to accept the viewpoint of Steve Rowe or whoever feels like calling their music "Jesus Metal" whatever that is. It's all just entertainment, these artists just want to make a few bucks, and I don't doubt the sincerity of the artists on either ends of the spectrum, but one day, we all just need to grow up and accept the fact that it's just entertainment business. Making silly video's like these is just a waste of time made by a bunch of people who have allowed fear and ignorance to rule over their lives and skewed their viewpoints on reality.
OK, I will now get off my soapbox and this thread.
good point
stepcousin Heart of Metal
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Subject: Re: Ignorant video blog! Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:02 am
she is barking up the wrong tree here. She needs to base her analysis on more facts, not just album covers. She's a fool.
exact33 The King
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Subject: Re: Ignorant video blog! Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:14 pm
stepcousin wrote:
she is barking up the wrong tree here. She needs to base her analysis on more facts, not just album covers. She's a fool.
this age old argument isnt really useful anymore - people judge the music because they dont like it and associate their taste on whether it is proper or not.
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Subject: Re: Ignorant video blog! Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:52 pm
ultmetal wrote:
BTW, I don't doubt this woman's sincerity
How can you say this? This lady is selfish, not sincere.
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Subject: Re: Ignorant video blog! Fri Oct 29, 2010 2:01 pm
Eyesore wrote:
ultmetal wrote:
BTW, I don't doubt this woman's sincerity
How can you say this? This lady is selfish, not sincere.
I don't doubt that she honestly believes what she is preaching. I'm sure she thinks she is helping people with this information, though it's painfully obvious that her facts and conclusions are illogical and completely wrong.
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Subject: Re: Ignorant video blog! Fri Oct 29, 2010 2:04 pm
ultmetal wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
ultmetal wrote:
BTW, I don't doubt this woman's sincerity
How can you say this? This lady is selfish, not sincere.
I don't doubt that she honestly believes what she is preaching. I'm sure she thinks she is helping people with this information, though it's painfully obvious that her facts and conclusions are illogical and completely wrong.
+1
Eyesore Metal is my Life
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Subject: Re: Ignorant video blog! Fri Oct 29, 2010 4:01 pm
ultmetal wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
ultmetal wrote:
BTW, I don't doubt this woman's sincerity
How can you say this? This lady is selfish, not sincere.
I don't doubt that she honestly believes what she is preaching. I'm sure she thinks she is helping people with this information, though it's painfully obvious that her facts and conclusions are illogical and completely wrong.
Oh, she believes it all right. But that's what makes her selfish and not sincere. Because she can easily discover the truth. This isn't a matter of religion, where you hear and read stories and have the faith to believe. She can just do a little research, dig a little deeper, scratch the surface, and she'll find the real truth and discover how wrong she is.
But she doesn't do that. Sincerity requires integrity, and integrity requires that one shed blind selfishness. She's not sincere.
manny mini boss
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Subject: Re: Ignorant video blog! Fri Oct 29, 2010 4:57 pm
I am sure she is sincere, sincerely wrong
ultmetal Administrator
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Subject: Re: Ignorant video blog! Sat Oct 30, 2010 5:04 pm
manny wrote:
I am sure she is sincere, sincerely wrong
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Shashaiti Metal novice
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Subject: Re: Ignorant video blog! Sun Oct 31, 2010 6:03 pm
Now, I hate to intrude and blurt my opinion to people, I'm not fond of drawing attention to myself, but I honestly think this whole argument is annoying and stupid. She can think whatever she wants, yes she's wrong factually, but it's like she said, we won't be able to convince her otherwise, and honestly I don't care. For the record, I was only able to power through the whole part one, yes part one, of this video because I had the thread to read and I watched another argumentative video with decent factual arguments. I believe that she can think whatever the hell she wants as long as it doesn't impede my ability and right to listen to metal. I think she's stupid, but at least I still have my music, like, her video isn't going to stop all sales of The Devil Wears Prada or anything (and how does HTML R00LZ D00D correlate to the occult anyhow?), I don't really think she's doing anything but buzzing in our ears and annoying us to death, no real harm. But then, we're actually doing her a service by legitimately discussing this, we wasted our time not only watching the video, but by discussing it, I am clearly guilty of this as well as much as I hate to admit it.I don't think this woman deserves the attention she's getting, and besides, it's not like all Christians think this way about metal, as I have seen some on this thread anyway, it's just the extremest fringes of society that are often heard because they're loud and ridiculous, just like how not all U.S. patriots are Muslim haters, it's nothing but a time-waster. I am, personally, Pagan, and she used As I Lay Dying's cover that sported a crescent moon as pagan, which she apparently considered occultist, but I wasn't offended, because one, I knew this lady was crazy, and two, she said she though Jews were occultist, sense she is not making. I should stop before I go any further, I apologize for this being so long, and, like some others in this thread, I will get off my orange crate and be silent. (yes an orange crate, I couldn't afford a soap box)