Annihilator

Totally agree Achrisk.

Wow dude, we agree on a surprisingly large percentage of stuff. You have great taste!!

AchrisK wrote:

For me Annihilator is an oddity. They have some KILLER riffs and passages, and some killer songs. Great playing. But their entire discography is littered with awkward lyrics and vocal deliveries, and lame songs. I mean some really stupid sounding stuff. Enough to where I have given up on them altogether, aside from the first two. I do like a good bit of what's on those albums. For me to want to own an album I have to like a large percentage of it, and can only stand very little dislike or annoyance. Annihilator gets bad enough that they are not worth the good, to me.

I'm just the opposite. There are very few songs from Annihilator I don't like. There are literally no albums I don't like.

I guess I'm actually quite a fan.

AchrisK wrote:

Wow dude, we agree on a surprisingly large percentage of stuff. You have great taste!!

Looking at your avatar and reading your posts ... I am starting to think that we may be the same person ....

Temple of Blood wrote:

AchrisK wrote:

Wow dude, we agree on a surprisingly large percentage of stuff. You have great taste!!

Looking at your avatar and reading your posts ... I am starting to think that we may be the same person ....

Lord help us!

Annihilator has it's faults but one thing is for sure, Jeff Waters is a master on the guitar.

Troublezone wrote:

Annihilator has it's faults but one thing is for sure, Jeff Waters is a master on the guitar.

He may be. I can see that to some degree. But I seriously doubt he likes metal.

AchrisK wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

Annihilator has it's faults but one thing is for sure, Jeff Waters is a master on the guitar.

He may be. I can see that to some degree. But I seriously doubt he likes metal.

Yet he named his latest CD "Metal"?

AchrisK wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

Annihilator has it's faults but one thing is for sure, Jeff Waters is a master on the guitar.

He may be. I can see that to some degree. But I seriously doubt he likes metal.

AchrisK wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

Annihilator has it's faults but one thing is for sure, Jeff Waters is a master on the guitar.

He may be. I can see that to some degree. But I seriously doubt he likes metal.

His tastes are all over the place and unfortunately he mixes too much of this together into the same songs/albums in places where it is not seemless.

S wrote:

Jesusandmetal23 wrote:

Yet he named his latest CD "Metal"?

Dudes, he writes some of the dumbest sounding song parts ever. Almost like he isn't really into metal, and he sometimes gets it right, and sometimes gets it wrong. Like he can't hear, or doesn't know, what good metal is.

I can't help thinking that Jeff is a guitar monster.

AchrisK wrote:

S wrote:

Jesusandmetal23 wrote:

Yet he named his latest CD "Metal"?

Dudes, he writes some of the dumbest sounding song parts ever. Almost like he isn't really into metal, and he sometimes gets it right, and sometimes gets it wrong. Like he can't hear, or doesn't know, what good metal is.

Quite the contrary. It would appear that you and TOB cannot hear, or don't know ... what good metal is.

No, that's not it.

Waters is awesome. The greatest Canadian after Wayne Gretzky. And Chris Jericho.


And Don Cherry...

Awesome band. Alice In Hell and Never Neverland are my two favorites by them.

Lari wrote:

Waters is awesome. The greatest Canadian after Wayne Gretzky. And Chris Jericho.


And Don Cherry...

Cherry's a better dresser ,too

AchrisK wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

Annihilator has it's faults but one thing is for sure, Jeff Waters is a master on the guitar.

He may be. I can see that to some degree. But I seriously doubt he likes metal.

That's ridiculous...

His main influences are:

Priest, Maiden, Slayer, Metallica, Exodus, AC/DC and Van Halen.

Start a band and see who you influence. Just because you don't approve of his songwriting doesn't make him unmetal. You have your own taste and other people have theirs.

Metallic Blaze wrote:

AchrisK wrote:

S wrote:

Jesusandmetal23 wrote:

Yet he named his latest CD "Metal"?

Dudes, he writes some of the dumbest sounding song parts ever. Almost like he isn't really into metal, and he sometimes gets it right, and sometimes gets it wrong. Like he can't hear, or doesn't know, what good metal is.

Quite the contrary. It would appear that you and TOB cannot hear, or don't know ... what good metal is.

carnival diablos, king of the kill and waking the fury are great. heavier than the early stuff which is lso good

TheGooch wrote:

carnival diablos, king of the kill and waking the fury are great. heavier than the early stuff which is lso good

Except for King of the Kill... That wasn't heavier than AIH.

maybe im thinking of a another one. the one with the creepy demon on the front. yeah thats not king of the kill is it. first few albums have such wimpy guitars sounds

I'm afraid I have to agree with a few of the dissenters regarding Annihilator. They're not a bad band and those first two records (as well as a few of the subsequent ones) are highly enjoyable, but Jeff Waters just isn't a good song-writer. He writes brilliant riffs but he just randomly connects them together - on a lot of the earlier stuff, this works well, but it's hit and miss overall. Far worse however is his general inability to write vocals. Almost every Annihilator song makes me cringe lyrically, they're just very piss poor. I know Annihilator is his vehicle, but he needs someone to help him write stuff. If there was a second creative body in the band who was able to make the songs more cohesive and the vocal melodies / lyrics more than just throwaway nonsense (Maximum Satan? What?), then Annihilator would be amongst the best.

A long time ago i started a thread regarding his silly lyrics. I know the lyrics are weak or dumb but i think most people like Annihilator for the great music.

Smindas wrote:

I'm afraid I have to agree with a few of the dissenters regarding Annihilator. They're not a bad band and those first two records (as well as a few of the subsequent ones) are highly enjoyable, but Jeff Waters just isn't a good song-writer. He writes brilliant riffs but he just randomly connects them together - on a lot of the earlier stuff, this works well, but it's hit and miss overall. Far worse however is his general inability to write vocals. Almost every Annihilator song makes me cringe lyrically, they're just very piss poor. I know Annihilator is his vehicle, but he needs someone to help him write stuff. If there was a second creative body in the band who was able to make the songs more cohesive and the vocal melodies / lyrics more than just throwaway nonsense (Maximum Satan? What?), then Annihilator would be amongst the best.

This is a good summation of my feelings. I am trolling a bit when I say he is not a fan of metal