WORLD PAINTED BLOOD! - The "unofficial" thread...

I'll probably pick this up eventually. My Slayer collection is severely lacking in its current state.

Over the weekend I watched that fantastic DVD that comes with the "limited" edition of this album. Retarded. It's stuff like that DVD that makes "metalheads" look like mindless dumbasses.

SpectreFate wrote:

Over the weekend I watched that fantastic DVD that comes with the "limited" edition of this album. Retarded. It's stuff like that DVD that makes "metalheads" look like mindless dumbasses.

Are you saying that is not the case?

Olafsto wrote:

Are you saying that is not the case?

I love you Olaf.

SpectreFate wrote:

Over the weekend I watched that fantastic DVD that comes with the "limited" edition of this album. Retarded. It's stuff like that DVD that makes "metalheads" look like mindless dumbasses.

Lemme guess, lots of clips of drunk guys with Dimebag Darrell memorial t-shirts on, screaming "SLAAAAAYYYYYYYERRRRR!" into the camera while they carve the band's logo into their forearms?

SpectreFate wrote:

Olafsto wrote:

Are you saying that is not the case?

I love you Olaf.

The macho metalhead way i hope....

Fat Freddy wrote:

SpectreFate wrote:

Over the weekend I watched that fantastic DVD that comes with the "limited" edition of this album. Retarded. It's stuff like that DVD that makes "metalheads" look like mindless dumbasses.

Lemme guess, lots of clips of drunk guys with Dimebag Darrell memorial t-shirts on, screaming "SLAAAAAYYYYYYYERRRRR!" into the camera while they carve the band's logo into their forearms?

No its a DVD of this guy who goes and collects body parts to create a woman. It plays each Slayer song as each woman is killed. Real classy, top of the line stuff.

SpectreFate wrote:

No its a DVD of this guy who goes and collects body parts to create a woman. It plays each Slayer song as each woman is killed. Real classy, top of the line stuff.

Hmm, sounds like someone in Slayer's camp is a fan of this movie...

I have a one-emoticon review for this album:

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

I have a one-emoticon review for this album:

It's a good album!!!!! The production sounds like "Death Magnetic" with less compression and now "clicks" and not as LOUD.

thejokeriv wrote:

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

I have a one-emoticon review for this album:

It's a good album!!!!! The production sounds like "Death Magnetic" with less compression and now "clicks" and not as LOUD.

I agree, but SLAYER managed to convey the intensity that METALLICA are lacking...

I saw the DVD included with this set over the weekend. Pretty disturbing stuff. I saw it once, no need to ever see it again.

The music sounded great. Will probably pick it up eventually. So much music, so little money.

Fat Freddy wrote:

SpectreFate wrote:

No its a DVD of this guy who goes and collects body parts to create a woman. It plays each Slayer song as each woman is killed. Real classy, top of the line stuff.

Hmm, sounds like someone in Slayer's camp is a fan of this movie...

Sounds more like this one to me:

I just think SLAYER is a very consistent, true band. In 26 years they've never tried to write a hit single, never tried to change their sound to draw in more people, never gotten trendy haircuts or stocked their closets with Armani...they've just been SLAYER. They play around with their sound sometimes (Show No Mercy doesn't sound like Christ Illusion, but both are unmistakably SLAYER) but never try to be something they're not. Even MEGADETH and TESTAMENT took their swipes at being more commercial...not SLAYER.

I've been enjoying the new Slayer alot. I think it's their best album since Seasons.

tohostudios wrote:

Fat Freddy wrote:

SpectreFate wrote:

No its a DVD of this guy who goes and collects body parts to create a woman. It plays each Slayer song as each woman is killed. Real classy, top of the line stuff.

Hmm, sounds like someone in Slayer's camp is a fan of this movie...

Sounds more like this one to me:

Actually, to completely spoil the whole plot of the movie, it's about a kid who saw his mother murdered, so he becomes a serial killer and steals body parts from woman trying to recreated his mother. In the end he builds this woman, puts his mom's dress on her and lays down in bed with it. It's disturbing and weird and not something I can imagine anyone would want to watch more than one time.

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

I just think SLAYER is a very consistent, true band. In 26 years they've never tried to write a hit single, never tried to change their sound to draw in more people, never gotten trendy haircuts or stocked their closets with Armani...they've just been SLAYER. They play around with their sound sometimes (Show No Mercy doesn't sound like Christ Illusion, but both are unmistakably SLAYER) but never try to be something they're not. Even MEGADETH and TESTAMENT took their swipes at being more commercial...not SLAYER.

SLAYER has sold out during their career! Remember in the 90s when metal was a dirty word and they were labelling themselves the pioneers of "hard music"? Now they are calling themselves a metal band again!

Remember them adding all the groove ("Stain of Mind") and doing the all-punk covers album (so SLAYER had NO metal influences?) to their influences when Green Day hit? That's pretty darn selective, don't you think?
Not to mention their new song meant to appeal to the Marilyn Manson crowd. Come on. If they could've sold out like METALLICA and pulled it off they would've try it.

SLAYER tried to be commercial in their own way, they just never copied the Black album like MEGADETH and TESTAMENT did.

Temple of Blood wrote:

Remember them adding all the groove ("Stain of Mind") and doing the all-punk covers album (so SLAYER had NO metal influences?) to their influences when Green Day hit? That's pretty darn selective, don't you think?
Not to mention their new song meant to appeal to the Marilyn Manson crowd. Come on. If they could've sold out like METALLICA and pulled it off they would've try it.

SLAYER tried to be commercial in their own way, they just never copied the Black album like MEGADETH and TESTAMENT did.

As usual, you're wrong but convinced you're right.

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SLAYER has sold out during their career!

No they have not.

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Remember in the 90s when metal was a dirty word and they were labelling themselves the pioneers of "hard music"? Now they are calling themselves a metal band again!

When you consider "hard music" as a whole...everything from Sabbath to Zeppelin, from Sex Pistols to DRI, from Slayer to Korn, they most definitely were/are a pioneer of hard music. It would be different if they said "we were never Metal" like Def Leppard or someone else did...completely different scenarios.

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Remember them adding all the groove ("Stain of Mind")

"Groove" does not constitute selling out.

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and doing the all-punk covers album (so SLAYER had NO metal influences?) to their influences when Green Day hit?

Green Day has nothing to do with it. If you recall, they have NEVER hid their Punk influence...Hanneman has always had Punk band stickers on his guitars...in the "War Ensemble" video you can see them...that's where Thrash came from anyway...Punk & Metal combined...they've always championed Punk Rock.

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That's pretty darn selective, don't you think?

No.

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Not to mention their new song meant to appeal to the Marilyn Manson crowd. Come on.

I've listened to the new album several times now and not heard anything close to what you're talking about. You come on...

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If they could've sold out like METALLICA and pulled it off they would've try it.

Speculation...inadmissable.

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SLAYER tried to be commercial in their own way, they just never copied the Black album like MEGADETH and TESTAMENT did.

I disagree. Slayer has never sanded off the jagged edges of their sound...regrdless of groove or speed or solo or vocal, Slayer has always been ugly, abrasive, in your face and pissed off...always.

Of course they had some punk influence. But when it was time to do a covers album and metal was a dirty word they covered NO metal songs.

Not to mention them toning down the Satanism (though not necessarily the blasphemy) from the 90s on once the kids grew up and realized that schtick was a huge joke.

Hilarious that you guys can't see the "coincidence" of when bands like SLAYER choose to latch on to groove music and punk and when bands like METALLICA choose to try grunge-ish styles. Yeah ... it's just a coincidence.

Slayer, again, always had a strong Punk influence. I wasn't just a slight nod to it, it was all in their sound...still is. There is nothing wrong with them doing a Punk covers album. I can see why you and other fans would want a Metal/Punk mixture, but they did what they wanted without caring what anyone thought...just like Slayer always has.

Metallica jumping from Black Album to Load was a gigantic leap across genres. Slayer adding groove to a couple of songs and still sounding like Slayer is completely different.

Did SLAYER try groove in 85? 89? If so, I would agree that it was honest experimentation.

Pretty much all metal bands tried to abandon metal step-by-step in the 90s because they were scared. They tried to re-market themselves and soften their logos and press releases and such to appeal to whatever was getting played on MTV at the time. And of course the music reflected them trying to appeal to the shifting demographics.

PANTERA is definitely not my favorite band in the world but they had more integrity during the 90s than SLAYER. (I'm sure people will disagree ) They did none of those things to my recollection.

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Did SLAYER try groove in 85? 89? If so, I would agree that it was honest experimentation.

Just because they did not try every musical style in the book on their first album does not mean it was not honest experimentation...that's what experimentation IS...trying something you haven't tried before. They did not try a Load or a Risk...they made a Slayer album with a little sprinkling of groove here and there. You're pretty rigid if you think that is "selling out".

If you do something you like on the 3rd ToB album that you did not do on the debut, will you have sold out if you still sounded like ToB?

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Pretty much all metal bands tried to abandon metal step-by-step in the 90s because they were scared. They tried to re-market themselves and soften their logos and press releases and such to appeal to whatever was getting played on MTV at the time. And of course the music reflected them trying to appeal to the shifting demographics.

And Slayer did none of those things...well they did have a slightly altered logo on DiM...but they were very much still Slayer all through the 90s.

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PANTERA is definitely not my favorite band in the world but they had more integrity during the 90s than SLAYER. (I'm sure people will disagree ) They did none of those things to my recollection.

By what appears to be your standard, they "sold out" from their original Power Metal style and became THE premier GROOVE Metal band...I thought groove was supposed to be a bad thing?

Slayer started toning down the satanic image after Hell Awaits, not in the 90's. They were ALWAYS influenced by punk - so what if they did an all punk covers album? Who gives a flying Smurf? The doesn't prove the "Sold out". At least the band knows how to play time unlike some bands out there!