What band or bands do you consider washed up?

TheNazgul wrote:

I think they went poppy on purpose because Joe likes it and I think Clark was the one that pushed them more the NWOBHM style.

Clark never wrote songs...only the occasional riff...he didn't push in any certain direction. It's the "Cliff Burton Syndrome". Everyone thought Cliff was the "Metal heart" of Metallica when in reality he hardly listened to Metal and was the most musically diverse of the 4.

TheNazgul wrote:

They haven't been big for years yet they haven't gone back and written Pyro II. They know they aren't going to sell a ton when they write records like they do.

True. They do however fill up the arenas & sheds consistently. I know that Euphoria (1999) went Gold and "Promises" was a decent charter. Then, as was stated, "Nine Lives" did fairly well, but not as well as "Promises"...I do think they still sell better, relatively, in other parts of the world better than in America though...

You could be right about the Clark thing. Somewhere though they went a different way and they seem ok about mostly staying there and they keep making albums. They could just do festivals and small tours here and there and still get an audience with their name alone.

Souza didn't die though, that was Paul Baloff.

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

Clark never wrote songs...only the occasional riff...he didn't push in any certain direction. It's the "Cliff Burton Syndrome". Everyone thought Cliff was the "Metal heart" of Metallica when in reality he hardly listened to Metal and was the most musically diverse of the 4.

TRAUMA was pretty metal. I think he liked metal more than you stated but otherwise I agree.

TheNazgul wrote:

You could be right about the Clark thing. Somewhere though they went a different way and they seem ok about mostly staying there and they keep making albums. They could just do festivals and small tours here and there and still get an audience with their name alone.

Very true, their albums sell very well, considering that they their style of pop metal is no longer in vogue, I am in the minority on this board where I have not minded their more pop oriented albums.

they sure do sell out venues. the tour in the uk they did with whitesnake was a total sellout even with the extra dates added

Temple of Blood wrote:

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

Clark never wrote songs...only the occasional riff...he didn't push in any certain direction. It's the "Cliff Burton Syndrome". Everyone thought Cliff was the "Metal heart" of Metallica when in reality he hardly listened to Metal and was the most musically diverse of the 4.

TRAUMA was pretty metal. I think he liked metal more than you stated but otherwise I agree.

Well, you have to like it to play it...he obviously liked it...but it wasn't any more of a mainstay in his musical diet than anything else he liked...

manny wrote:

TheNazgul wrote:

You could be right about the Clark thing. Somewhere though they went a different way and they seem ok about mostly staying there and they keep making albums. They could just do festivals and small tours here and there and still get an audience with their name alone.

Very true, their albums sell very well, considering that they their style of pop metal is no longer in vogue, I am in the minority on this board where I have not minded their more pop oriented albums.

I love thier pop oriented albums...they're a band that has managed to maintain something of a unique sound while still making each new album a little different to the last...

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exodus - should have retired gracefully after souza died

Huh? Souza is alive and well.