The John Paul Jones Appreciation Thread

That's a lap steel.

detuned wrote:

Jones was really the "sonic architect" on many of the later Zeppelin albums. Primarily I think of songs like "No Quarter" (he was the primary writer on that one and played keyboards) and "The Rain Song" which is epic because of the mellotron accompaniment he added.

He also released a really kick ass record back the the 90's...

Zooma is a kick-ass album. I remember getting it in 1999 and thinking how great the bass sounded.

manny wrote:

James B. wrote:

Listen to the early live stuff Zeppelin III era and earlier. Jones and Bonham are a monster rhythm section. They took what both Cream and The Yardbirds were doing with British whiteboy blues and kicked it up into overdrive. Bonham at first glance goes right past most folks with what is really going on in his playing. It may sound simple and basic but the timing is quite unique and very subtle. The mastery he had with the use of the triplet is amazing. Again the command of timing is above and beyond normal talent. Too many folks equate speed and technical aptitude to what makes a good drummer, we all have an opinion. My point being, try to play it yourself and perhaps a new respect and / or perspective can be had.

Metalrob pay attention to this dude

He is talking about Bonham here, when did I ever mention anything about him? Also I have stated JPJ is a killer bassist. I only responded to someones post of Flea being overrated.

He mentioned the rhythm section which would refer to the bassist also, anyway Flea is great bassist but him and John Paul Jones are world's apart in terms of style, experience, and certainly generations.

Flea I believe was influenced by Sly and the Family Stone, Stevie Wonder, and Parilament-Funkadelic, and of course he also had a punk rock influence, where John Paul Jones comes very different world and culture, I am not telling anything you don't know, but I am agreement with you that Flea is a great bassist.

Smindas wrote:

There's an amazing clip from the Guitar Wars DVD with John Paul Jones doing some fantastic slide guitar work (at least, that's what I think it is - I'm not really familiar with what he's actually playing on) with Steve Hackett, Nuno Bettencourt and Gary Cherone doing 'Hole-Hearted'.

Gary and Nuno sound so good together. They pull off live what Def Leppard can only do in a studio.

detuned wrote:

That's a lap steel.

A lap steel, huh? Learn something new every day then. Cheers for clearing that up.

manny wrote:

He mentioned the rhythm section which would refer to the bassist also, anyway Flea is great bassist but him and John Paul Jones are world's apart in terms of style, experience, and certainly generations.

Flea I believe was influenced by Sly and the Family Stone, Stevie Wonder, and Parilament-Funkadelic, and of course he also had a punk rock influence, where John Paul Jones comes very different world and culture, I am not telling anything you don't know, but I am agreement with you that Flea is a great bassist.

They both have great style and tons of experience but def worlds apart in generations. JPJ has some amazing basslines but gets overshadowed by Jimmy Pages 20 guitar parts on each song. JPJ really shines live on some of the live clips I have heard.

Smindas wrote:

detuned wrote:

That's a lap steel.

A lap steel, huh? Learn something new every day then. Cheers for clearing that up.

David Gilmour plays one occasionally, probably the best example is on "One Of These Days (I'm Going To Cut You Into Little Pieces)"

JPJ is great, I'm an Entwhistle man myself. Flea is no slouch eithier.

Hamer12 wrote:

JPJ is great, I'm an Entwhistle man myself. Flea is no slouch eithier.

There was quite a crop of great bass players that came out around that time:

John Entwhistle
John Paul Jones
Geezer Butler
Chris Squire
Andy Fraser (Free)
Roger Glover
Rick Laird (Mahavishnu Orchestra)

detuned wrote:

Hamer12 wrote:

JPJ is great, I'm an Entwhistle man myself. Flea is no slouch eithier.

There was quite a crop of great bass players that came out around that time:

John Entwhistle
John Paul Jones
Geezer Butler
Chris Squire
Andy Fraser (Free)
Roger Glover
Rick Laird (Mahavishnu Orchestra)

Some great guys on that list. Geddy Lee started in 1968 as well.

Ah, I got Zooma too. We're probably amongst a gaggle of six or so fans who got. I remember buying it used, almost picked up Geddy Lee's solo debut the same time. Should have. Still haven't heard that whole thing. But, Zooma was a good 'un. It was like maybe two tracks shy of being great. What I want to hear, and what I was never quite good enough to pull off myself, is a track where a couple of four strings provide a nice rhythm track, whilst a good six string bass lays down some nice lead and harmonic work on top. Somethin fancy, a la Squire's The Fish, or Water's One Of These Days. But, even quicker tempoed, and heavier.