What is "Grunge"? Really.

Metal, Movies, Beer Number of posts : 37869 Age : 54

"Grunge" was a catch-all term used by music industry types who didn't know where to pigeonhole a bunch of different sounding bands. "Wow, it ain't metal! It ain't alternative! It ain't punk! Gosh, it sounds like a whole MESS o'stuff... I know, let's call it... um.... GRUNGE! Yea, that's the ticket!"

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Metal is in my blood Number of posts : 4214 Age : 50

From my experiance on the boards and stuff, Grunge is a style of music that most of you wouldnt be caught dead listening to

The lost Ramone Number of posts : 6557 Age : 34

Just a label for shitty music...IMO.

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Stender wrote:: Just a label for shitty music.

Just a comment from someone who knows little about said music.

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Addy wrote:: From my experiance on the boards and stuff, Grunge is a style of music that most of you wouldnt be caught dead listening to

Untrue. I thought Nirvana, AIC, L7, and Soundgarden in particular were all great bands.

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The lost Ramone Number of posts : 6557 Age : 34

Eyesore wrote:

Stender wrote:: Just a label for shitty music.

Just a comment from someone who knows little about said music.

Oh yeah, forgot I cant state an opinion without you getting butt hurt about it...my apologies.

mini boss Number of posts : 21101 Age : 54

Fat Freddy wrote:

Addy wrote:: From my experiance on the boards and stuff, Grunge is a style of music that most of you wouldnt be caught dead listening to

Untrue. I thought Nirvana, AIC, L7, and Soundgarden in particular were all great bands.

I second this opinion, as a matter fact these bands labeled grunge have a alot of fans on this board.

Subject: Re: What is "Grunge"? Really. Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:49 pm

Stender wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

Stender wrote:: Just a label for shitty music.

Just a comment from someone who knows little about said music.

Oh yeah, forgot I cant state an opinion without you getting butt hurt about it...my apologies.

That made me laugh out loud Stender.

Dinky Do Number of posts : 4830 Age : 43

It was a grunge band that had the most influence on me as a young guitar player. They were the reason I picked up the guitar and still to this day Frogstomp is my fav cd of all time.

Metal is in my blood Number of posts : 4214 Age : 50

I said MOST not ALL Smile

Im a big fan of Grunge music, It was something I could relate to when I was younger, it was nice to hear songs about angst and stuff instead of women and sex. I think the biggest thing I liked about Grunge was it let me express my creativity (am an aspiring writer) When Nirvana and STP and Pearl Jam first came out I couldnt stand them. I still cant stand Pearl Jam but Nirvana I got hooked when their unplugged performance first aired. Now I got most of the nirvana catalog and alot of Imports. STP it took their 2nd album for me to get hooked and I have their entire catalog. I love STP i can listen to STP alot more now than I can with Nirvana but I still loves it

Scurvy Skalliwag Number of posts : 12763 Age : 60

Aside from the marketing aspect of the term "grunge", my take on most of the bands labeled that are just a 90's interpretation of 70's rock, downtuned to D

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So......Grunge Is...

a marketing term media persons use to categorize the music of the Seattle scene that incorporates elements of punk rock and heavy metal that is not heavy enough to be metal and not soft enough to be alternative or downtuned to D alt-rock that is as dead as punk that most of you wouldnt be caught dead listening to. Got It! Thanks guys!

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Glad we could help clear that up for ya, Spec. Laughing

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Dinky Do Number of posts : 4830 Age : 43

The whole downtuned thing kills me. There are so many bands not grunge that use this tuning. Yes a lot of grunge bands use Drop D, because its a killer tuning.

Metal is in my blood Number of posts : 4214 Age : 50

I like Metalguy's definition

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Stender wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

Stender wrote:: Just a label for shitty music.

Just a comment from someone who knows little about said music.

Oh yeah, forgot I cant state an opinion without you getting butt hurt about it...my apologies.

It's a retarded statement. You just said that thousands of bands are shitty. Just one general opinion based on complete ignorance. My butt doesn't hurt at all. I'm simply trying to point out how silly a statement like that is. Maybe you'll learn something.

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"Alternative" was the term used back in the 80's to describe bands like R.E.M., Love & Rockets, etc.

Metal is in my blood Number of posts : 2682 Age : 37

I see it as a bunch of bands from the Pacific Northwest that didn't want to do the same thing as everyone else. They had their ears to the underground in the 80's but weren't too pretentious to forget the 70's classic rock/heavy metal that they grew up with.

The bands drew on 4 main sources of inspiration imo......

70's Hard Rock/Heavy Metal - Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Aerosmith, Kiss etc.

80's US Hardcore/Punk - Black Flag, Flipper, Bad Brains etc.

80's US College/Alternative - Husker Du, Replacements, REM, Pixies etc.

80's Australian Post Punk/Noise/Garage/Grunge - Birthday Party, Scientists, Feedtime, Cosmic Psychos etc.

Some bands leaned towards certain stuff.....Mudhoney leaned more towards the Australian Post Punk/Garage stuff, Soundgarden more towards the 70's Heavy Metal and Nirvana more towards Husker Du and the Replacements but they all incorporated these disparate influences together.

Funny how a throw away word Mark Arm used to describe Green River (Taken from Kim Salmon perhaps?) eventually became a word that pretty much marks a certain time and era in not only music.

But the term as an actual label of music is silly like all music labels and sub-labels.

Metal is in my blood Number of posts : 4214 Age : 50

Funny thing is if you read and or listen to any interviews with Kurt Cobain he had said repeatidly that Nirvana is a Punk Band, In the early days they were always confused with being a Metal Band and he would always correct them on one interview CD I have he had said that "Nirvana is not Metal but it has a sound that would appeal to a Metal Audience" Think about it Bleach is kind of a heavy album and IMO their best album

Scurvy Skalliwag Number of posts : 12763 Age : 60

MetalRob331 wrote:: The whole downtuned thing kills me. There are so many bands not grunge that use this tuning. Yes a lot of grunge bands use Drop D, because its a killer tuning.

yeah King's X for one did it before "grunge"

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Altered tunings come out of blues & folk primarily, they've been around forever.

One of the earliest uses of Drop D tuning in rock (that I'm aware of) is Moby Dick on Led Zeppelin 2.

Dinky Do Number of posts : 4830 Age : 43

detuned wrote:: Altered tunings come out of blues & folk primarily, they've been around forever.

One of the earliest uses of Drop D tuning in rock (that I'm aware of) is Moby Dick on Led Zeppelin 2.

Yes Page used lots of Open Tunings

Metal is Forever Number of posts : 9428 Age : 50

MetalGuy71 wrote:

EvyMetal wrote:

MetalGuy71 wrote:: Eh, works for me, I guess. It's like asking someone to define pornography. I can't tell you what is pornographic, but I knows it when I sees it.

Pictures and videos with naked people

So by your definition, this is pornography...

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...and not a work of art?

Were are the waffles?

Baron Von 40oz. Number of posts : 4386 Age : 34

Hmmm? I knew you guys would get on my case about that definition. Hahahaha.

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Metal student Number of posts : 112 Age : 52

James B. wrote:: Aside from the marketing aspect of the term "grunge", my take on most of the bands labeled that are just a 90's interpretation of 70's rock, downtuned to D

Unless you are referring to Neil Young, I'd have to disagree. Boston, Queen, Jethro Tull, and Rainbow are bands I have loved since my high school days for their stellar musicianship. The seventies gave us progressive rock Very Happy

The nineties gave us alternative sick

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