Manny's top 25 overlooked metal/hard rock CDS

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Widowmaker's BLOOD & BULLETS

Big time agree with this. The Desperado album is seriously overlooked as well.

spectrefate wrote:

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Widowmaker's BLOOD & BULLETS

Big time agree with this. The Desperado album is seriously overlooked as well.

I second this, excellent metal album.

That Widowmaker album owns a special place in my heart because I saw them tour for that one and it still holds the record for the absolute LOUDEST SHOW I ever saw. Period. They were playing in a tiny little sh*t box club but brought a wall of Marshalls that would've been too much for Madison Square Garden. I was right up front and I swear to God I didn't hear right for about a week. I was seriously afraid that some permanent damage might have been done. Since then I have always brought ear plugs to shows.

When I saw TS in Orlando a couple of years back (best show ever!) it was intensely loud as well. Maybe Dee prefers it that way.

spectrefate wrote:

When I saw TS in Orlando a couple of years back (best show ever!) it was intensely loud as well. Maybe Dee prefers it that way.

...Or perhaps Dee is intensely deaf as well.

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Well, I had descriptions, but I refreshed the page by accident, and I dont wanna type all that smurf poo again

I love that Alice album "Special Forces" it is a weird little album but I love every single track on that album, also " Born Again" one of the best Black Sabbath albums of any line up period.

Blue Oyster Cult's 'Imaginos' one of their best albums and fav title off the album " The Siege and Investiture of Baron von Frankenstein's Castle at Weisseria ' for the title alone they deserve to be on this list.

Do you guys (Manny & DC) really think KISS' Creatures of the Night is overlooked? Don't most fans of the band look at that album as sort of a comeback from their disco/rock opera phase? It holds up well over time too.

If anything, I would almost say that it's overlooked by the band themselves. Aside from the unplugged performance from MTV, has the band played anything live off of that album in the last 15 years or at least since Eric Carr died?

MetalGuy71 wrote:

Do you guys (Manny & DC) really think KISS' Creatures of the Night is overlooked? Don't most fans of the band look at that album as sort of a comeback from their disco/rock opera phase? It holds up well over time too.

If anything, I would almost say that it's overlooked by the band themselves. Aside from the unplugged performance from MTV, has the band played anything live off of that album in the last 15 years or at least since Eric Carr died?

Generally, "I Love It Loud" is played. They did "War Machine" when I saw them on the farewell tour, and I think "I Still Love You" is played here and there. Most fans did see it as that (the comeback), but the general casual fan and people in general had pretty much abandoned Kiss by that time. In light of recent years, its not as overlooked as it once was, but it took awhile for it to garner respect.

MetalGuy71 wrote:

Do you guys (Manny & DC) really think KISS' Creatures of the Night is overlooked? Don't most fans of the band look at that album as sort of a comeback from their disco/rock opera phase? It holds up well over time too.

If anything, I would almost say that it's overlooked by the band themselves. Aside from the unplugged performance from MTV, has the band played anything live off of that album in the last 15 years or at least since Eric Carr died?

Yes and no, at the time the album was released it was considered a commerical failure but since than the album has been looked at as classic comeback album and welcome return to their roots. The only songs off the album that get dusted off from time to time is 'I Love it Loud' and "War Machine".

Fair enough. You've both redeemed yourselves in my eyes.

I am huge AC/DC fanboy, and I love "Fly on The Wall" but IMO it is their worst album, but it is still good it has "Shake your Foundations', 'Danger' and the classic love song 'Sink The Pink'.

What I remember the most about this album was the long form VHS of the videos where a goofy fly and storyline, it can found on 'Family Jewels' DVD release.

Death's "Spirtual Healing" was a great album and I tend to overlook it in favor of 'Human' , so great choice and I have dig this cd out when I get home.

If I can clear the "job search cobwebs" from my head I'll try to come up with a list as well.

Ok Deathcult question, I was looking at that Mott the Hopple album you have listed, and than realized that is not Mott the Hopple, or is it Mott the Hopple, never heard of this album if it is Mott the Hopple, and if it is where the heck is Ian Hunter ?

manny wrote:

Ok Deathcult question, I was looking at that Mott the Hopple album you have listed, and than realized that is not Mott the Hopple, or is it Mott the Hopple, never heard of this album if it is Mott the Hopple, and if it is where the heck is Ian Hunter ?

Here's the link to the AMG page on this album: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:d9ftxqw5ldae

Manny that record is by what Sahb calls Nott The Hoople....aka Mott The Hoople sans Hunter.

I thought of 5 records.......


1. Iggy Pop & James Williamson - Kill City (1977)



In a year when Iggy dropped two classic records (The Idiot and Lust For Life) this one gets overlooked, there's a great ragged Stones quality to this. Kinda high/low life livin', sorta one foot in the gutter and one foot in the limo. One of my 7 or so essential documents of sleaze.

2. Hanoi Rocks - Oriental Beat (1982)



Totally forgotten and overlooked in this bands impressive canon of records. It's the kinda record Aerosmith would make if they had sh*tty production, cut their teeth on 70's Punk instead of 60's British Invasion and were broke in London. The Ramonesy amphetamine blues of MC Baby gets me everytime.

3. Aerosmith - Draw The Line (1977)



Catch me on the right day and i'll call this there best....the title track is imo Aerosmith's greatest song (which means by default it's one of Rock N' Roll's best), that tempo and the build up to Steven's cat scratch vocals and then that tempered with the cooing Shangri-Las like backing vocals. Doesn't get better then that.

4. Thin Lizzy - Renegade (1982)



Catch me on any day and i'll call it their best. The guitars sing like never before and Phil's in top form. Criminally overlooked in this band's legendary back catalogue.

5. Rolling Stones - Their Satanic Majesties Request (1967)



The Stones poor attempt at replicating Sgt. Peppers. Bollocks to that! It's like the dark seedy alter ego of the Beatles cheery psych, it's like the red headed step child of the Stones catalogue that everyone hides in the basement, it's like one of the greatest records ever imo. It's my fave Stones record but it's not really a Stones record which means it isn't my favourite Stones record, you think that's confusing then listen to Citadel, 2000 Light Years From Home, In Another Land etc....that sh*t is from another planet. Brian Jones is god and his demented dark genius is smeared all over this. You couldn't match this even if you crammed Syd Barrett, Arthur Lee and Roky Erickson in a studio together with a Hookah Pipe, Psychedelics and a Mellotron.

Excellent choices Rattpoison, I prefer Hanoi Rocks "Back to Mystery City" over 'Oriental Beat" but still great album.

I also love that Rolling Stones album from the cover to sole Bill Wyman writing credit he ever received on any Stones album "In Another Land". When I saw the Stones in 1989 I was shocked that they had performed "2000 Light Years from Home" . Great album and I agree even Syd Barrett couldn't create this demented work of art.

I also love that Aerosmith album " Draw the Line" , which features the classic title track, "Kings and Queens" and the only song about performance malfunction that I knew of " Can't Get it Up". Excellent choices.

manny wrote:

Excellent choices Rattpoison, I prefer Hanoi Rocks "Back to Mystery City" over 'Oriental Beat" but still great album.

I also love that Rolling Stones album from the cover to sole Bill Wyman writing credit he ever received on any Stones album "In Another Land". When I saw the Stones in 1989 I was shocked that they had performed "2000 Light Years from Home" . Great album and I agree even Syd Barrett couldn't create this demented work of art.

I also love that Aerosmith album " Draw the Line" , which features the classic title track, "Kings and Queens" and the only song about performance malfunction that I knew of " Can't Get it Up". Excellent choices.

I prefer Self Destruction Blues over both....but i think Oriental Beat never gets it's due.

You heard of the Brian Jonestown Massacre's record Their Satanic Majesties Second Request? Just as equally brilliant and demented as it's namesake. And probably the only time a band has made record to sound like the follow up to another band's record.

Actually Kings And Queens is my least favourite song on Draw The Line, a little too cliche Heavy Metal for me.....just like Angel Of Death on Lizzy's Renegade.

rattpoison the reason " Kings and Queens' sounds so cliche because every hair metal band of the 80's not only ripped off this song but also raided the entire Aerosmith catalog for song ideas, riffs, and even stealing bits of the bands image.

I never owned that Iggy Pop album, I am aware of it, and I love the title track which I have on some cheesy comp album entitled " Rude and Nude: The Best of Iggy Pop'

I never heard or even knew that album existed from the Brian Jonestown Massacre but I will be on lookout for it, the only album I heard from these guys ( the title escapes me ) is great.

Wow! Some of those listed are some of my favorites. Great list.

I especially agree about Aerosmith - Rock in a Hard Place. It was a solid, hard rockin' record. Jailbait, Lightning Strikes, Rock in a Hard Place, Jig is Up. Great songs. You could have just as easily included Night in the Ruts on that list as well.

Dio's Dream Evil is brilliant!

Motorhead Another Perfect Day was great when it was released, even though many fans hated it. It's still great today and people are just starting to recognize it. Even Motorhead have taken to playing some of these songs live again, something they haven't done since the Another Perfect Day tour. You could also add "Overnight Sensation" to this list.

Overkill's From the Underground is GREAT! Blitz lists it as one of his favorites. I was lucky enough to have my copy signed by the whole band.

Deep Purple's Battle Rages on definitley deserves to be on a list of underrated albums, as does "Purpendicular".

I might also add to this list:

The track "I" is worth the price of admission alone, although the entire album is much better than most Sabbath fans give it credit for.

manny wrote:

rattpoison the reason " Kings and Queens' sounds so cliche because every hair metal band of the 80's not only ripped off this song but also raided the entire Aerosmith catalog for song ideas, riffs, and even stealing bits of the bands image.

Exactly!

Cliché? What other song sounded like that in 1978? Who else was mixing banjos and heavy guitars outside of Southern rock or country?

Great list Deathcult.

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A brilliant album. The mix is a bit muddy, but so what! It's heavy metal. Ian Gillan gives the vocal performance of his life here. Trashed, Disturbing the Priest, Digital Bi+ch, Born Again...the entire album is great!

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Love this album. Definitely one of the underrated albums in the BOC catalog.

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I'm unfamiliar with this band, but oddly enough I received an email just the other day requesting these guys be added to NLTM.

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One of the greats of thrash metal! Always love the album cover as well.

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Just about any Razor album could be included on a list like this. Underrated band in general.

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One of my all time favorite albums. Wish the cover shown here would actually be officially released. Vinnie Vincent may be a pompous a$$, but he was cool too.

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Can't really go wrong with any KISS IMO. This is a very overlooked album. It was just the wrong timing. Had Kiss come out with Creatures first, they probably would have regained their heavy metal crown from the 70's that had been lost to the tom foolery from the two albums proceeding it. Still, Elder was a good rock album. Ace's contribution is worth the price of admission all by itself, even if Gene's ballad does want to make most people barf.

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Exciter are another underrated band in general. Almost any Exciter album could have been included. ANVIL are another band from Canada that belongs in the underrated category, especially considering both these band's influence on thrash metal in the early 80's.

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Alice mixes hard rock and new wave. Fans didn't get it. Too bad. It's a good album.

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Probably one of the most played Megadeth album in my collection. Always loved this one. Detest the new mix that is now on the record store shelves. Pull those silly keys/horns back in the mix!

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Agree with this inclusion as well. Always loved this album. The intro to "The Wolf" is spoken by Monty Python's Michael Palin. Funny stuff! "Eat the Rich," "Stone Deaf in the U.S.A." and "Dogs" are all prime Motorbangers.

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A NWOBHM classic! Own it on CD and vinyl! I wonder how much more popular this might have been if Pete Way had actually played and toured for it as he was suppose to. Pete left to do his short stint with Ozzy.

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AMAZING ALBUM!!!! Fast and furious! Neil Turbin sounds fantastic. I've always listed this as one of my favorites. Anthrax were local heroes, and this record consumed us!

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I want this one CD or vinyl! Anyone have a copy they want to give me.

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One of my all time favorites. Features the guitar talents of John Sykes.

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AC/DC are consistent! This was a great album, but most thought it paled in comparison to the massively successful Back in Black. Still a great record.

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Man, this one was soooo disappointing to me. I probably wouldn't include it in my list. I like this album, but I don't like it as much as the band's early catalog. Lacks the balls of Under the Blade and You Can't Stop Rock and Roll. Always liked the video for Be Cruel to your School.

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BRILLIANT THRASH METAL!!!

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Indeed! Oddly enough the first song that always comes to mind for me with this record is Last Rose of Summer. Always loved that song. Dissident Aggressor, Starbreaker, Sinner...great record!

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Death rule! This one is overlooked, even by myself. I am just not as familiar with it as I am with some of their other records.

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Tygers in general should be on an underrated band list. Great band. Great record.

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One of my all time favorite records. Glam to the max! Vinnie was cool even as a powder puff pink cross dresser. LOL! Oh, and Bob Rock with the painted on tiger skin pants. That's just way over the top. I own this one on CD and vinyl!

Deep Purple's "Purpendicular" most certainly deserves to be on that list, Steve Morse gave this band a second leash on life.

" Dehumanizer" is another classic Sabbath album, featuring the mighty Dio on lead vocals. Also " I" is a monster of a song. I am glad to see the band have not forgotten this album and do play perform a few tracks off this album.

Spec, I am completely unfamiliar with Deliverance, and based on your review I will have to check them out. Rage is a band I only recently discovered and I only have one of their releases on tape (of all things) and I will be on the lookout for the release you recommended.

I LOVE Deliverance! One of my all time favorite artists! Stay of Execution is a great CD that is often crapped on by fans as the band had moved away from speed metal and thrash. It's still heavy as a freight train! The title track alone is worth the price of admission. One of the classic songs from D.

I was recently blessed to be able to write the liner notes for the first two Deliverance reissues. GET THEM! They are classics!