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PostSubject: Why was this album overlooked?   Why was this album overlooked? Icon_minitimeMon Jan 28, 2008 8:48 am

From ult's site:

Why was this album overlooked? Desperado-BloodiedButUnbowed-Front

Desperado-Bloodied But Unbowed (Destroyer) 1996
1. "Hang 'em High" (4:51)
2. "Gone Bad" (3:44)
3. "The Maverick" (5:06)
4. "The Heart is a Lonely Hunter" (7:11)
5. "Calling for You" (4:54)
6. "See You At Sunrise" (5:53)
7. "There's No Angels Here" (4:54)
8. "Made for Trouble" (3:45)
9. "Ride Thru the Storm" (4:30)
10. "Son of a Gun" (5:34)
11. Emaheeval" (4:25)
12. "Easy Action" (3:52)
13. "Heart of Saturday Night" (3:53)



The legendary Deperado cd. After the demise of Twisted Sister, Dee Snider went on to start the "Desperado" project in 1989. Snider, teaming up with ex-Gillan guitarist Bernie Torme, ex-Iron Maiden drummer Clive Burr and bassist Marc Russell to create an album for Elektra Records. Ready for release in '89, Elektra decided to shelve the album about two weeks before the initial unveiling. This is a direct quote from Bernie Tormé's site: "Well, it took years out of all our lives, though for me 99.9% was pure pleasure. It was a great album, great singer, great band, but unfortunately for us, a smurf poo record company. Hey, its just my opinion." I'd have to agree. This is a great commercial metal album, sounding much like a follow-up to "Love is for Suckers". After listening only twice I can't even fathom what the record company was thinking. Perhaps the "big hit" wasn't there. I don't know, I'm just glad it finally was released. Never heard of the record company that finally did release this disc. There is no copyright information, so I can only assume that this was finally released by one of the band members, most likely Dee Snider. "Emaheevul," "Gone Bad," "Calling For You," and "Ride Through The Storm" have all reappeared on other Dee Snider projects. "Heart of Saturday Night" is a Tom Waite cover. This disc sells for around $25-$30 on eBay.

This album is so good, its sick. I mean how can you miss with a lineup of Dee Snider, Bernie Torme, Clive Burr and Marc Russell (not sure who he is)? This album is just solid throughout. I highly recommend it for fans of all types of metal. If you don't like Dee's vocals in TS, they sound a little different on this one, but it's unmistakeably Dee. If you are lucky enough to catch this one, PICK IT UP!
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PostSubject: Re: Why was this album overlooked?   Why was this album overlooked? Icon_minitimeMon Jan 28, 2008 9:01 am

I have it - It's awesome! 🤘

"There's No Angels Here" is my favourite track - Simply, AWESOME tune!
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PostSubject: Re: Why was this album overlooked?   Why was this album overlooked? Icon_minitimeMon Jan 28, 2008 9:02 am

What style is it?
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PostSubject: Re: Why was this album overlooked?   Why was this album overlooked? Icon_minitimeMon Jan 28, 2008 9:05 am

It's good stuff... the reason it's so overlooked is probably cuz for the longest time nobody could find it due to its limited release. A lot of people probably don't even know it exists!!

I always wanted to hear it back in the day but didn't get hold of it till I found a download on the Net years ago.

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PostSubject: Re: Why was this album overlooked?   Why was this album overlooked? Icon_minitimeMon Jan 28, 2008 9:13 am

It is a great album, but it was shelved when it was first recorded. By the time Dee released it privately, he was no longer that known and alternative was the flavor of the day.

It's easy to find now as it's been re-released, albeit with a different cover. The cover pictured above was the independent release that Dee put out.

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PostSubject: Re: Why was this album overlooked?   Why was this album overlooked? Icon_minitimeMon Jan 28, 2008 9:15 am

I only have a download of it as well. It's extremely scarce.

Shawn, it's basically just straight ahead metal.

Here's a sample. There's No Angels Here
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PostSubject: Re: Why was this album overlooked?   Why was this album overlooked? Icon_minitimeMon Jan 28, 2008 9:16 am

ultmetal wrote:

It's easy to find now as it's been re-released, albeit with a different cover. The cover pictured above was the independent release that Dee put out.

ult

I didn't know it was re-released. Awesome.

Here it is:

http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/7119340/a/Ace.htm
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PostSubject: Re: Why was this album overlooked?   Why was this album overlooked? Icon_minitimeMon Jan 28, 2008 9:20 am

The "Ace" reissue only has 11 tracks, though. The original has 13. So I guess I'm hangin' onto the CD-R I made from my download.

By the way, "Gone Bad," "Emaheevul" and "Calling For You" were all re-recorded by Dee's next band, Widowmaker, and appeared on the BLOOD & BULLETS debut. There's another overlooked album for ya. Widowmaker was killer! 🤘

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PostSubject: Re: Why was this album overlooked?   Why was this album overlooked? Icon_minitimeMon Jan 28, 2008 9:46 am

I'd say it's a Heavy Rock basis, with numerous Traditional Metal inspirations - Great stuff!
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PostSubject: Re: Why was this album overlooked?   Why was this album overlooked? Icon_minitimeMon Jan 28, 2008 9:47 am

http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/7119340/a/Ace.htm

Yes, that's the reissue.

Some of the tracks were used for Widowmaker and Dee Snider's solo album, so that may be why they weren't included here.

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1. Hang 'Em High
2. Gone Bad
3. Run Wild Run Free (The Maverick)
4. Heart Is A Lonely Hunter
5. Calling For You
6. See You At Sunrise
7. No Angels Here
8. Made For Trouble
9. Ride Thru The Storm
10. Son Of A Gun
11. Emaheevull

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PostSubject: Re: Why was this album overlooked?   Why was this album overlooked? Icon_minitimeMon Jan 28, 2008 9:47 am

Shawn Of Fire wrote:
What style is it?

Similar style to Widowmaker or Dee's solo album. Melodic heavy metal/hard rock.

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PostSubject: Re: Why was this album overlooked?   Why was this album overlooked? Icon_minitimeMon Jan 28, 2008 9:49 am

That reissue cover is terrible. But then I have high expectations, I suppose. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Why was this album overlooked?   Why was this album overlooked? Icon_minitimeMon Jan 28, 2008 9:54 am

spectrefate wrote:
That reissue cover is terrible. But then I have high expectations, I suppose. Smile

I like the original title better as well. "Bloodied but Unbowed" sounds better than "Ace" IMO. Besides there is only one "Ace" IMO. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Why was this album overlooked?   Why was this album overlooked? Icon_minitimeMon Jan 28, 2008 9:58 am

ultmetal wrote:
spectrefate wrote:
That reissue cover is terrible. But then I have high expectations, I suppose. Smile

I like the original title better as well. "Bloodied but Unbowed" sounds better than "Ace" IMO. Besides there is only one "Ace" IMO. Very Happy



Maybe he was trying to have a belly-full, by tricking young teen-girls into thinking it was some hot pop-singer with big muscles, then be disgusted when they heard the music - That happened to me...my cousin saw the CD, and immediately pulled it off my shelf, and popped it in the stereo - You should have SEEN her face! Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Why was this album overlooked?   Why was this album overlooked? Icon_minitimeMon Jan 28, 2008 10:09 am

No matter where I looked I never could find this. Now that it's re-issued I'll have to get a copy.
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PostSubject: Re: Why was this album overlooked?   Why was this album overlooked? Icon_minitimeMon Jan 28, 2008 11:18 am

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No matter where I looked I never could find this. Now that it's re-issued I'll have to get a copy.

Me too
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PostSubject: Re: Why was this album overlooked?   Why was this album overlooked? Icon_minitimeMon Jan 28, 2008 1:43 pm

SwapaCD shows this cover, too:

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PostSubject: Re: Why was this album overlooked?   Why was this album overlooked? Icon_minitimeMon Jan 28, 2008 2:00 pm

Eyesore wrote:
SwapaCD shows this cover, too:

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That's the European cover.

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PostSubject: Re: Why was this album overlooked?   Why was this album overlooked? Icon_minitimeMon Jan 28, 2008 2:03 pm

ultmetal wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
SwapaCD shows this cover, too:

Why was this album overlooked? 924288

That's the European cover.

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Not as goofy as the U.S. cover, but I still like the original one better than either of 'em!

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PostSubject: Re: Why was this album overlooked?   Why was this album overlooked? Icon_minitimeMon Jan 28, 2008 10:52 pm

Why was it overlooked? Because it is nearly impossible to find. Glad I snagged one all those years ago. Very good stuff...



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PostSubject: Re: Why was this album overlooked?   Why was this album overlooked? Icon_minitimeMon Jan 28, 2008 10:53 pm

By the way...have not seen the reissue anywhere. Does it have ANYTHING new on it at all? Even the tracks from Never Let The Bastards Wear You Down that were supposed to be on the original? Anything?


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PostSubject: Re: Why was this album overlooked?   Why was this album overlooked? Icon_minitimeTue Jan 29, 2008 1:36 am

I saw a used copy for $8 including shipping on amazon.com today
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PostSubject: Re: Why was this album overlooked?   Why was this album overlooked? Icon_minitimeTue Jan 29, 2008 5:34 am

I bought the CD directly from Dee, when he was touring his SMF stuff. I think it's a great album. And the thread here questioning Dee going country would do themselves a favor checking ut "Bloodied But Unbowed".

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PostSubject: Re: Why was this album overlooked?   Why was this album overlooked? Icon_minitimeTue Jan 29, 2008 9:09 am

I got a copy of the reissue over the summer at a used shop for $6....

ANYTHING Dee Snider related is essential, you know....

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PostSubject: Re: Why was this album overlooked?   Why was this album overlooked? Icon_minitimeTue Jan 29, 2008 9:49 pm

YEAH BABY!! 🤘

A friend of mine had this BITD on cassette. I had no idea it was reissued. I had all but forgotten about it. I'll need to snag this one.
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