Subject: Re: Queensryche gives new info on "American Soldier" Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:28 pm
Fat Freddy wrote:
Will the album contain a cover of the Toby Keith song, "American Soldier?"
With all country crossover taking place with 80's rock stars please don't give an ideas to the Queensryche camp
thejokeriv Metal is my Life
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Subject: Re: Queensryche gives new info on "American Soldier" Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:38 pm
Will the album contain a cover of the Toby Keith song, "American Soldier?" [/quote]
With all country crossover taking place with 80's rock stars please don't give an ideas to the Queensryche camp[/quote]
True, they just might - Geoff Tate could head up an all star 80's metal stars country music CD - him, Sebastian Bach, Def Lep, Bon Jovi - other sugesstions - Slayer, Anthrax, Armored Saint and on the christian end - how about ult and the boys
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Subject: Re: Queensryche gives new info on "American Soldier" Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:07 pm
Shawn Of Fire wrote:
And, from what I can tell, it doesn't look like the album will be all about Iraq...it looks like perspectives from all wars/conflicts...it's a soldier's perspective on war in general...not a personal, political statement from Tate.
Funny that no one whined about the lyrical subject matter in the past when it dealt with this very same issue.
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Subject: Re: Queensryche gives new info on "American Soldier" Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:58 am
According to AnybodyListening.net, Queensryche guitarist Michael Wilton has revealed that he has recorded all the guitar parts for the band's upcoming album, "American Soldier." He said in an online posting, "I have been slammed with making the deadline for the new Queensryche opus. I recorded all the guitars this time so it should sound more like the original 'Rryche'."
Due in April 2009 via Rhino Records, Queenryche's twelfth studio album, "American Soldier," is a concept album focusing on telling the story of war from a firsthand perspective. Singer and chief songwriter Geoff Tate has spent the last few years conducting extensive interviews with veterans and has crafted their thoughts into this epic tale. "American Soldier" examines American wars from World War II through Iraq from the viewpoint of those in the trenches and on the frontlines. Following the album's release, Queensryche plans to present tracks from the album live on an extensive spring tour of the U.S., with international dates to follow later in 2009.
"American Soldier" will contain 12 tracks, including the following:
* Dead Man's Words * Unafraid * 100 Mile Stare * At Thirty Thousand Feet * Man Down * Remember Me * If I Were King
MetalGuy71 Bukkake Tsunami
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Subject: Re: Queensryche gives new info on "American Soldier" Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:46 am
Put me in the just-don't-care category with Kmorg and Lurideath. I liked these guys for a long time, but I just can't get excited about a new release from them anymore. With so many other bands on my want-list, I've really lost interest in these guys.
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Subject: Re: Queensryche gives new info on "American Soldier" Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:47 am
MetalGuy71 wrote:
Put me in the just-don't-care category with Kmorg and Lurideath. I liked these guys for a long time, but I just can't get excited about a new release from them anymore. With so many other bands on my want-list, I've really lost interest in these guys.
Anymore room in the Apathy Bus? I'm coming with ya guys.
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Subject: Re: Queensryche gives new info on "American Soldier" Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:53 am
SpectreFate wrote:
MetalGuy71 wrote:
Put me in the just-don't-care category with Kmorg and Lurideath. I liked these guys for a long time, but I just can't get excited about a new release from them anymore. With so many other bands on my want-list, I've really lost interest in these guys.
Anymore room in the Apathy Bus? I'm coming with ya guys.
Me too... or is that me three? Me four? Whatever.
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Subject: Re: Queensryche gives new info on "American Soldier" Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:09 pm
Fat Freddy wrote:
SpectreFate wrote:
MetalGuy71 wrote:
Put me in the just-don't-care category with Kmorg and Lurideath. I liked these guys for a long time, but I just can't get excited about a new release from them anymore. With so many other bands on my want-list, I've really lost interest in these guys.
Anymore room in the Apathy Bus? I'm coming with ya guys.
Me too... or is that me three? Me four? Whatever.
Plenty of room. No pushing or shoving, fellas. The beer cooler is in the back. We just opened a new bag of Doritos and started Hamburger: The Movie on the dvd player. Make yourself comfortable. Next stop, the Keel Reunion.
_________________ I used to be with it, but then they changed what "it" was. Now what I'm with isn't it, and what's it seems weird and scary to me, and it'll happen to you, too.
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Subject: Re: Queensryche gives new info on "American Soldier" Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:12 pm
MetalGuy71 wrote:
Plenty of room. No pushing or shoving, fellas. The beer cooler is in the back. We just opened a new bag of Doritos and started Hamburger: The Movie on the dvd player. Make yourself comfortable. Next stop, the Keel Reunion.
Any clue where the Wangcaster is, MG?
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Subject: Re: Queensryche gives new info on "American Soldier" Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:15 pm
I used to be a major Queensryche fanboy, but I started to lose interest shortly after Chris DeGarmo left, I have 'Q2k' and 'Tribe', I liked both albums but still felt somewhat disappointed. I have not as of yet picked up 'Operation Mindcrime II' so I have no opinion if that album is any good or not.
What I am hoping is this will be a return to form album, that it will have elements of classic Queensryche sound along with the more modern production they have adapted on some of the later albums. This last year being a major comeback for alot of veteran metal bands this maybe the perfect time for them to make a comeback, in the commerical sense.
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Subject: Re: Queensryche gives new info on "American Soldier" Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:16 pm
SpectreFate wrote:
MetalGuy71 wrote:
Plenty of room. No pushing or shoving, fellas. The beer cooler is in the back. We just opened a new bag of Doritos and started Hamburger: The Movie on the dvd player. Make yourself comfortable. Next stop, the Keel Reunion.
Any clue where the Wangcaster is, MG?
Kmorg had it last. Said something about "practicing his fingering" or something.
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Subject: Re: Queensryche gives new info on "American Soldier" Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:23 pm
Quote :
I recorded all the guitars this time so it should sound more like the original 'Rryche'."
Which "original" 'Ryche? The Rage For Order stuff or the Warning stuff or the Mindcrime stuff or the Empire stuff? Cuz all of that sounds different...
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Subject: Re: Queensryche gives new info on "American Soldier" Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:26 pm
Shawn Of Fire wrote:
Quote :
I recorded all the guitars this time so it should sound more like the original 'Rryche'."
Which "original" 'Ryche? The Rage For Order stuff or the Warning stuff or the Mindcrime stuff or the Empire stuff? Cuz all of that sounds different...
I'm sure what he means is "whenever we were most popular with the hard-core fans that we're desperatley trying to win back and seem relevant again. That version."
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Subject: Re: Queensryche gives new info on "American Soldier" Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:23 pm
I agree with Manny that it just hasn't been the same since DeGarmo left, however I'm perfectly willing to give the new album a shot. They are such a talented group of musicians, I'm sure it would be possible for them to rediscover their mojo.
I've been on a Queensryche kick this week, so that probably has something to do with it.
manny mini boss
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Subject: Re: Queensryche gives new info on "American Soldier" Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:25 pm
detuned now that you have re-listened to 'Operation Mindcrime' what is your opinion of this album?
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Subject: Re: Queensryche gives new info on "American Soldier" Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:28 pm
I personally believe DeGarmo is the one that steered the band into this more groovy rock area. Everyone wants to pretend like they need DeGarmo back to ever recapture their old sound. But DeGarmo has done nothing but alt-rock projects since leaving QR. I think DeGarmo led them down this road, then Tate took the wheel and floored it once DeGarmo left.
Operation: Mindcrime II was written by Tate, Stone (the new guy) and the producer (who?).
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Subject: Re: Queensryche gives new info on "American Soldier" Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:33 pm
manny wrote:
detuned now that you have re-listened to 'Operation Mindcrime' what is your opinion of this album?
About the same, for some reason it comes off as "over-baked" to me, a little shrill and hard to listen to all the way through. There are specific tracks that I really like...but for some reason that album sounds more dated to me than any of their others. There are some great tunes on there, but as a whole it leaves me a little flat.
Favorite track is Spreading The Disease...KICK ASS riff.
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Subject: Re: Queensryche gives new info on "American Soldier" Sat Jan 17, 2009 12:00 am
I will get this new the day it debuts regardless as I am a Queensryche diehard.
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Subject: Re: Queensryche gives new info on "American Soldier" Mon Jan 19, 2009 5:19 pm
detuned wrote:
manny wrote:
detuned now that you have re-listened to 'Operation Mindcrime' what is your opinion of this album?
About the same, for some reason it comes off as "over-baked" to me, a little shrill and hard to listen to all the way through. There are specific tracks that I really like...but for some reason that album sounds more dated to me than any of their others. There are some great tunes on there, but as a whole it leaves me a little flat.
I agree about Operation Mindcrime. Revolution Calling, I Don't Believe In Love, and Eyes Of A Stranger are great songs but as a whole the album just doesn't hold me all the way through. I much prefer Empire.
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Subject: Re: Queensryche gives new info on "American Soldier" Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:07 pm
Eyesore wrote:
I personally believe DeGarmo is the one that steered the band into this more groovy rock area. Everyone wants to pretend like they need DeGarmo back to ever recapture their old sound.
I completely agree. People forget 2 things:
1. QUEENSRYCHE never had a set, consistent sound
2. DeGarmo was 100% responsible for Hear In The Now Frontier...that album was his baby, as was Promised Land. And, although a lot of fans are coming around on Promised Land (a decade later), it was bagged on hard when it came out and to this day most established 'RYCHE fans hate HearIn The Now Frontier. DeGarmo was just one piece of the 'RYCHE puzzle and when he had control, fans didn't really like the result.
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Subject: Re: Queensryche gives new info on "American Soldier" Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:37 pm
I'm pretty sure that Promised Land went multi-platinum when it was released. I actually don't remember hearing anyone complain about it at the time, I liked it immediately and so did most of my friends that were Queensryche fans.
But then again...I'm also the kind of music fan that usually likes the obscure and/or controversial albums better than the more popular ones.
I need to revisit "Hear In The Now Frontier" one of the these days, I never owned it and think I only heard it once.
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Subject: Re: Queensryche gives new info on "American Soldier" Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:42 pm
detuned wrote:
I'm pretty sure that Promised Land went multi-platinum when it was released. I actually don't remember hearing anyone complain about it at the time, I liked it immediately and so did most of my friends that were Queensryche fans. .
It sold on the back of Empire and Operation: Livecrime...Empire was huge...Promised Land had strong sales out of the gate then fizzled...barely any video play at all whereas Empire had 6 videos that got played a lot...Empire was like QUEENSRYCHE's "black album"...suddenly, thanks to "Silent Lucidity", everyone and their sister was a 'RYCHE fan...Promised Land wasn't nearly as big and faded quick.
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Subject: Re: Queensryche gives new info on "American Soldier" Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:55 pm
My problem w/them has not been their change in style, Rush has done that, it's the material has been for the most part mediocre as of late. I do however enjoy Mincrime II, much more since I saw them perform it live.
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Subject: Re: Queensryche gives new info on "American Soldier" Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:58 pm
detuned wrote:
I'm pretty sure that Promised Land went multi-platinum when it was released. I actually don't remember hearing anyone complain about it at the time, I liked it immediately and so did most of my friends that were Queensryche fans.
I didn't care for it much at first, but it has grown on me to the point that I consider it a very good lp. Q2K and Tribe never did grow on me.
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Subject: Re: Queensryche gives new info on "American Soldier" Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:36 pm
detuned wrote:
I need to revisit "Hear In The Now Frontier" one of the these days, I never owned it and think I only heard it once.
I really like the album. There's a couple of songs I could do without, but I really dig the majority of them.
One thing I do think is that DeGarmo was the better songwriter. Promised Land and Hear In The Now Frontier were largely his doing, with help from Tate, but despite them being different albums, the songwriting is far better than they've had since. Recent songs like "Right Side Of My Mind" and "Re-Arrange You" are some of the best the band has ever written, in my opinion, but comparatively speaking, I think DeGarmo had a better grasp on songwriting.
I wouldn't mind see him back in the band, but he'd never bring them back to their early sound. He'd probably just make them a better band overall, in terms of quality songs. But we'll see. Maybe this next album will be excellent.
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