Ministry was one of the first bands to combine industrial and metal music on classic albums such as "Psalm 69" and " Land of Rape and Honey", their more recent albums "The Last Sucker" and "Rio Grande Blood" didn't do much for me with its rentless Bush bashing, I am not fan of the President but I feel that there are ways to articulate your anger besides calling someone stupid, but this off the point, anyone fans of these two albums and what is your opinion of the band as a whole?