The Official Metallica - Death Magnetic Thread

spectrefate wrote:

The only thing that's epic about me is my turds. I really need to not eat so much red meat.

So are you going to review your turds then?

That's not a bad idea.

So I've only heard three songs... The Day That Never Comes, My Apocalypse, and Cyanide... I like them in that order. I bought them all on iTunes. Is the clipping something you hear on the cd? They all sounded good mixwise to me.

You should hear it on The Day and My Apocalypse. I noticed it on the files the band put out before the release and on the CD today.

I think I'm gonna pick it up tomorrow after work, along with the new Iced Earth.

spectrefate wrote:

detuned wrote:

The clipping is horrid, but that's of course more the fault of the mastering engineer than the recording itself. I'm going to load this thing into my computer and see if I can clean it up a tad...then re-burn it.

That's not something that I shouldn't have to do.

I'm trying to clean it a little too. I'm showing the album average volume is 102 db. WOW! That's the loudest I have seen. Its ridiculous.

I found the offending frequencies. It's a little drastic but it removes about 95% of the distortion.

1. First lower the volume of the entire wave by 2.5db
2. Use a paragraphic EQ.
3. Set a center frequency notch at 10khz
4. Width of 0.9 Octaves
5. Then cut that notch by 8.5db.

Almost all of the distortion is happening between 8khz-11khz, so that notch works well. Of course you'll probably want to do some other eq tweaking afterward, but this cleaned off all the high end distortion.

Now I'm playing around with trying to get rid of some of the bottom-end mud and get a little more bass out of the mix.

detuned didn't you say you do audio work for a living or did I imagine that?

MetalH wrote:

So I've only heard three songs... The Day That Never Comes, My Apocalypse, and Cyanide... I like them in that order. I bought them all on iTunes. Is the clipping something you hear on the cd? They all sounded good mixwise to me.

http://www.mindspring.com/~mrichter/dynamics/dynamics.htm

See article Detuned posted - makes sense now. It's not so much the mix, but the mastering. Clipping bassically "cuts off" the top and bottom end of the sound range recorded in the studio and mixed on the master tapes to make the sound as loud as possible on the CD.

I'd love to hear a DVD Audio of the CD using DTS

detuned wrote:

spectrefate wrote:

detuned wrote:

The clipping is horrid, but that's of course more the fault of the mastering engineer than the recording itself. I'm going to load this thing into my computer and see if I can clean it up a tad...then re-burn it.

That's not something that I shouldn't have to do.

I'm trying to clean it a little too. I'm showing the album average volume is 102 db. WOW! That's the loudest I have seen. Its ridiculous.

I found the offending frequencies. It's a little drastic but it removes about 95% of the distortion.

1. First lower the volume of the entire wave by 2.5db
2. Use a paragraphic EQ.
3. Set a center frequency notch at 10khz
4. Width of 0.9 Octaves
5. Then cut that notch by 8.5db.

Almost all of the distortion is happening between 8khz-11khz, so that notch works well. Of course you'll probably want to do some other eq tweaking afterward, but this cleaned off all the high end distortion.

Now I'm playing around with trying to get rid of some of the bottom-end mud and get a little more bass out of the mix.

Would love to hear you work!

spectrefate wrote:

detuned didn't you say you do audio work for a living or did I imagine that?

Yes. I've done recording, mixing, mastering, audio for video post production, live sound, etc.

There's also some low frequency distortion that I've noticed on a few tracks (primarily The Day That Never Comes), so I'll have to keep playing around to try and correct for that as well.

In the meantime I'm hoping to hear a copy of this on vinyl sometime soon, if it's mastered any better I'll buy it and sell this CD.

I picked it up for $5.00. I think the packaging sucks, but the music is very very good to my ears. I had to turn the volume down a bit. I am playing it on my Sony Walkman CD player through Bose on ear headphones. These are better than the tri-ports which are over the ear. I've owned them as well. They are not the noise cancelling ones, I didn't feel like spending $300.00 at the time for headphones.

I don't know if I can get better sound playing the CD through my computer. I run Linux on my computer and I use Amarok as my music player. If anyone else runs Linux and knows of a better player, I am all ears.

Could someone enlighten me please. I am starting to see a huge trend back to vinyl. Is vinyl better than a CD? It seems that when CD's first came out everyone made such a big deal about CD's being better. Now I wonder.

Which of the 142 different versions did you guys buy? I just bought the one with only the music, and the jewel case. I'm so lame. Anyone get the coffin edition?

DeathCult wrote:

Schbopo wrote:

DeathCult wrote:

xyz wrote:

Death Magnetic > United Abominations

Thats a bunch of

Yes it is. UA was a masterpiece, but DM isn't bad.

Easily couldve been the follow up to ...And Justice. But, I dont find it as impressive as it was built up as.

What were you expecting, "Master of Puppets II?" Come on now. No matter how hard a band tries, they can never reach their musical peak ever again. For all the hype it did receive, there was no way this would be their greatest album.

Just be thankful it isn't "St. Anger II."

I don't even compare Metallica and Megadeth anymore. One has been great since they started (with the exception of Risk) and the other hasn't put out a good album in 20 years. Both latest releases by these bands are great in thier own way I think.

I guess I'll go pick it up tommorow if the Hurricane does'nt blow us away first.

I'm liking this ok but some of the songs are way too long for me.

emptytomb1 wrote:

I'm liking this ok but some of the songs are way too long for me.

Agreed

Yeah, they got their mojo back, but now they need to learn to control it. Not every song has to be 8 minutes.

Isn't that why they did the Black album like they did? At least partly. I read they realized they were losing the fans attention halfway through a song.

emptytomb1 wrote:

Isn't that why they did the Black album like they did? At least partly. I read they realized they were losing the fans attention halfway through a song.

I think most of those decisions were "Bob Rock". I never heard anyone complain about their song lengths prior to Justice.

I think Metallica were the first widely popular band that had a lot of songs over the 6 minute mark. They may think that part of a "return to the roots" would ideally include continuing the longer song length. It sure as hell didn't work on St. Anger, but I don't think it is such a bad thing on the new album, just a teeny complaint of mine.

I'm enjoying the heck out of it. Very progressive, and yeah, it does sort of sound like a Justice follow-up. 2 complaints: too long, as Spec said. That can just ruin an album for me, like Maiden's "A matter of life and death". I still haven't listened to that one all the way through. Other complaint: while I'm glad they've returned to doing guitar solos, most of em' suck IMO. Just listen to the one on "the day..."

Selvmord wrote:

Which of the 142 different versions did you guys buy? I just bought the one with only the music, and the jewel case. I'm so lame. Anyone get the coffin edition?

Yea I pre ordered the coffin. havent gotten it yet though. I heard in the UK theirs didnt come with the cd or the lithograph that was suppose to come with it. Pretty funny.

emptytomb1 wrote:

I'm liking this ok but some of the songs are way too long for me.

I dont think the songs are long at all. Its metal not emo or punk.