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... | The original press | | 40% | [ 10 ] | The rerelease | | 12% | [ 3 ] | I don't give a damn | | 48% | [ 12 ] |
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sovdat Heart of Metal
Number of posts : 1786 Age : 37
| Subject: First pressings or reissues? Sat Mar 10, 2007 10:19 am | |
| Which do you prefer? The original versions or the reissues, usually with bonus tracks, tons of pics etc.? | |
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SideShowDisaSter Roo Jockey
Number of posts : 4609 Age : 46
| Subject: Re: First pressings or reissues? Sat Mar 10, 2007 10:34 am | |
| Much prefer originals. I've never really been a fan of reissues. Especially lately, as you see a reissue come out when the original press is still in print! (Roadrunner, anyone?) _________________ You're cancer, you can't be the answer, you're killing me
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MetalGuy71 Bukkake Tsunami
Number of posts : 25557 Age : 53
| Subject: Re: First pressings or reissues? Sat Mar 10, 2007 10:49 am | |
| I voted for originals, but in all honesty, it depends on the release. If I already own the original, it depends on what the re-issue includes. Rare b-sides or unreleased songs usually grab my interest, demo-versions or live versions do not. | |
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romeolimagolf Metal student
Number of posts : 204 Age : 52
| Subject: Re: First pressings or reissues? Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:11 pm | |
| I don't really care. I would rather have a re-issue than none at all. | |
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ultmetal Administrator
Number of posts : 19452 Age : 57
| Subject: Re: First pressings or reissues? Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:33 pm | |
| Depends on the reissues. For example, the original Combat CD release of Raven's "Nothing Exceeds Like Excess" has terrible mastering, while the newer Century Media reissue has great sound. However, the recent Ozzy and Megadeth reissues contain re-recorded parts, additional parts that weren't in the original recordings, etc., so I am not as anxious to get those.
Trog and I compared the original mix of "Into the Lungs of Hell" to the "remixed" version and those added keyboard/horns just suck.
I like the Judas Priest remasters, although I have read some complaints about the way they were mastered from some people. The KISS remasters are great. _________________ ULTIMATUM - TOO METAL FOR WIKIPEDIA!
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sovdat Heart of Metal
Number of posts : 1786 Age : 37
| Subject: Re: First pressings or reissues? Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:53 pm | |
| Well, I do prefer original first versions as well, although some reissues do come in a very nice packages (Century Media reissues, Judas Priest reissues, Metal Mind Production ...).
Some of it were done really horrible, though (Onslaught - The Force - the sound totally sucks there!! - It's way better on my mp3 copy; or Exciter - Violence and Force, which has no booklet at all). | |
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KissinMaiden Metal master
Number of posts : 688 Age : 35
| Subject: Re: First pressings or reissues? Sat Mar 10, 2007 1:06 pm | |
| I don't mind either because I'm usually exposed to the reissues, but I started listening to megadeth with some cd'rs my friend burned for me. When i bought the album Rust in peace and youthanasia I was pretty sad because it sounded different to the originals. | |
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Wargod Metal is in my blood
Number of posts : 4272 Age : 65
| Subject: Re: First pressings or reissues? Sat Mar 10, 2007 1:11 pm | |
| I prefer the originals as well, but when the Judas Priest re-issues came out thet were excellent but it depended on what version you got. They had the grey remaster logo and they had they silver grey shiney one! I had the whole remaster set but I sold it like a dummy I still kick myself today for it! And it came with the box as well! Wargod48 NP: Nameless Crime - Law And Persecution | |
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Fat Freddy Metal, Movies, Beer
Number of posts : 37971 Age : 54
| Subject: Re: First pressings or reissues? Sat Mar 10, 2007 1:20 pm | |
| Doesn't really make a difference to me ... if I can find an original pressing on the cheap, then that's fine by me, but I have no problems with a reissue either. Especially if you're talkin about a particularly rare CD that's been OOP for a long time and the original is going for insane amounts of $$ on eBay, then I will gladly settle for a re-issue! | |
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arttieTHE1manparty Administrator
Number of posts : 863 Age : 54
| Subject: Re: First pressings or reissues? Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:00 pm | |
| Couldn't vote, as the completist in me usually requires I get both.
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MetalH Metal master
Number of posts : 647 Age : 38
| Subject: Re: First pressings or reissues? Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:45 pm | |
| I usually go for the reissues. Bonus tracks are my bread and butter! | |
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007 Metal is my Life
Number of posts : 40982 Age : 56
| Subject: Re: First pressings or reissues? Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:02 pm | |
| - Fat Freddy wrote:
- Doesn't really make a difference to me ... if I can find an original pressing on the cheap, then that's fine by me, but I have no problems with a reissue either. Especially if you're talkin about a particularly rare CD that's been OOP for a long time and the original is going for insane amounts of $$ on eBay, then I will gladly settle for a re-issue!
Those are my sentiments exactly. | |
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AchrisK Metal master
Number of posts : 975 Age : 57
| Subject: Re: First pressings or reissues? Sun Mar 11, 2007 6:19 pm | |
| Either way for me, as long as it sounds good. I may slightly prefer having originals, and a lot of "bonus" material is not worth listening to.
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fishingd Metal graduate
Number of posts : 297 Age : 59
| Subject: Re: First pressings or reissues? Sun Mar 11, 2007 6:32 pm | |
| I do prefer original first versions.. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: First pressings or reissues? Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:15 pm | |
| either way for me, although I do give a slight favor to originals because It does annoy me when they rearange tracklisting on re-issues sometimes. The band made them in that order usually for a reason (unless they reordered them, a la Megadeth reissues). |
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SAHB Healer Metal is in my blood
Number of posts : 2793 Age : 66
| Subject: Re: First pressings or reissues? Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:34 pm | |
| Just because of the ideosyncratic way I have of accessing my playlists, I prefer the originals. (I like to program a bunch of music from a similar genre into a group mode, and then let it play randomly). The re-issues often have the levels cranked way up compared to what I would call "traditional" levels, but then they also like to add "bonus" tracks that are sometimes interesting, but all too often very poorly recorded or deteriorated live tracks that someone found in a vault. The combination sometimes makes random play kind of hard on the nerves. Sometimes I have to re-burn certain discs to get the levels compatible with the rest of my collection, or to delete very poorly recorded bonus tracks. The up side of the re-issues is that the sound quality is often better, even though it is way up in the red. | |
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AchrisK Metal master
Number of posts : 975 Age : 57
| Subject: Re: First pressings or reissues? Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:34 pm | |
| - Parksey wrote:
- either way for me, although I do give a slight favor to originals because It does annoy me when they rearange tracklisting on re-issues sometimes. The band made them in that order usually for a reason (unless they reordered them, a la Megadeth reissues).
Yeah, the Raw Power Maiden reissues changed the track order of the self-titled release. That ws lame! ack | |
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TH Joe Metal graduate
Number of posts : 450 Age : 43
| Subject: Re: First pressings or reissues? Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:32 am | |
| I don't really care. I usually buy the least expensive stuff I can find. | |
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Fat Freddy Metal, Movies, Beer
Number of posts : 37971 Age : 54
| Subject: Re: First pressings or reissues? Mon Mar 12, 2007 1:01 pm | |
| - TH Joe wrote:
- I don't really care. I usually buy the least expensive stuff I can find.
That's pretty much how it boils down for me too. | |
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kmorg Metal is my Life
Number of posts : 13862 Age : 49
| Subject: Re: First pressings or reissues? Mon Mar 12, 2007 1:26 pm | |
| I try to get most value for my money, so i try to own the version with the most songs :p _________________ | |
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Required Fields Metal is my Life
Number of posts : 28670 Age : 39
| Subject: Re: First pressings or reissues? Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:07 pm | |
| I probably own more remasters than originals, but it depends. As long as I have it, it's fine with me. | |
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TrogDawn Janitor of the Void
Number of posts : 3361 Age : 56
| Subject: Re: First pressings or reissues? Mon Mar 12, 2007 7:48 pm | |
| If they are done well, I usually prefer the remasters. In the case of Megadeth (as ult mentioned above) and even some of the Priest ones, there are some differences from the originals. When I notice that, I usually get the remasters and then have cdr copies of the original releases as well, especially if they are albums that have been extremely familiar to me for many years. That being said though, I think the Megadeth and Priest remasters are quite good for the most part. The remasters also tend to have superior packaging in most cases, and I like that aspect.
In the case of the latest Ozzy remasters, history was violated FAR too much for my liking when Lee Kerslake's and Bob Daisley's drum and bass parts (respectively) were totally re-recorded by two other players. A few added embellishments here and there is one thing, but to totally replace the rhythm tracks in their entirety on 25 year old CLASSIC albums? That's just going WAY too far, IMO. I boycott those versions like the plague. I have the 22-bit remasters from the mid-90's instead, since the original rhythm tracks are intact on those. I've heard the "new" versions and anyone who has grown up with the original recordings will pick out the differences immediately. The parts are solid, but you simply can't reproduce the subtle nuances and the vibe that was present at the original sessions.
Some GREAT remasters series I have:
BLACK SABBATH (Castle - superior packaging to the Black Box versions, though the sound might not be quite as good)
BLUE OYSTER CULT (Columbia - awesome bonus tracks and packaging)
DEEP PURPLE (EMI/Spitfire - first 3 albums remastered from the original masters - possibly for the first time - with superior packaging)
IRON MAIDEN (Century Media - great remasters with great packaging. If these are different from the originals in any way, I can't tell.)
KISS (Mercury - the remasters' sound quality is exponentially better than the original CD releases)
OZZY OSBOURNE (Sony 22 bit remasters from the mid-90's with the original rhythm tracks intact) STRYPER (Hollywood - not much different in the packaging dept. but the sound is better than the original Enigma releases)
TWISTED SISTER (Spitfire - my only complaint is that Under the Blade is the American mix, which was not nearly as heavy as the original Secret records mix.)
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Olafsto Metal is in my blood
Number of posts : 2522 Age : 56
| Subject: Re: First pressings or reissues? Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:51 am | |
| Most times I will go for the reissue. More songs, more pictures and better sound can`t be bad? | |
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sovdat Heart of Metal
Number of posts : 1786 Age : 37
| Subject: Re: First pressings or reissues? Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:27 pm | |
| Would you pay $15 for rerelease with two bonus tracks and cool booklet ... or $130 for a first press? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290082718009
I seriously didn't know that this is so rare and worthy, especially since it's been rereleased and is widely accessible! | |
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ultmetal Administrator
Number of posts : 19452 Age : 57
| Subject: Re: First pressings or reissues? Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:08 pm | |
| - sovdat wrote:
- Would you pay $15 for rerelease with two bonus tracks and cool booklet ... or $130 for a first press?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290082718009
I seriously didn't know that this is so rare and worthy, especially since it's been rereleased and is widely accessible! That is just complete stupidity IMO. | |
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