Dallas Black's Irrational Diatribes

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Here I am again and with this post I will give my final thoughts on some of the issues here. Some of what I say will also address my posts in the apology topic and Kid Rock topic. This will be my final word on everything that happened several days ago and afterwards I will let the matters rest (I will read peoples reactions to what I say but I will avoid any conflict).

First I must address someone who I said I severed ties with and hope he gives me the courtesy of actually reading what I post. Spectrefate, while I still believe you over reacted to my short political statement (come on, on the Kid Rock topic I just typed two sentences-hardly an irrational diatribe, and I am intitled to my own opinion after all) and feel that you, very wrongly, accused me of bigotry, I must come clear on something. I, very wrongly as well, over reacted to your comments about Nightwish and symphonic metal. I was way too defensive. That topic was a way for people to give their true feelings on music they dislike and I did not give them the respect I should have (I will personally post my comments on bands that I think suck). I said that I tried to make peace with you by trying to have you see my side of the issue (I wasn't trying to get you to agree, just to respect my view on the matter) but instead I should have apologized to you. When I saw what you said about my speaking English comment I got angry and instead of taking time to cool down and calmly address you I did what I do WAY too many times. I let my anger do my talking for me. So I apologize most sincerely for loosing my temper, if I believed in Karma I'd say it was retribution for me being so defensive to you earlier.

This goes for everyone I tiraded on in the Who Sucks thread. It should never matter who likes or dislikes certain music as long as I like it. All though Wed. it didn't seem like it, I do respect everyone's opinion and believe that everyone has a right to theirs. If you like what I like great, if you don't you are intitled to your opinion. I do not, however, apologize for my beliefs or even expressing my beliefs here. Just like I would never begrudge other people to express their beliefs I would expect others to do the same for me.

Saxon 1500, while we disagree greatly on political matters and have different views on the lessons of history I really want you to know that I respect your position. Most people who disagree with conservatives tend to throw out words like "racist", "facist", "nazi", or "homophobe" instead of rationaly debating and comming up with concise arguments for their opinion (I do not release conservatives from this complaint, we use words like "commie" or "radical leftists" all too often as well). You on the other hand didn't resort to name calling and gave me a concise argument for your side.

Now on your comments about showing us hate crime statistics to support your argument, I must respectfully disagree with the use of the word "hate crime". Many times people will call any assult by a white or straight man on a minority or a homosexual a "hate crime" even if the reason had nothing to do with race. On the same token many times an assult on a white man by a group of minorities is not considered a "hate crime". Racism is not just a white man's crime. Black people can be just as if not more racist, same can be said for Asians, Jews, Hispanics, etc. Unfortunatly hate crimes are many times only used in reference to white racists so some statistics don't include other kinds. I can't stand the term because a crime by it's very nature is an act of hate. If someone kills someone because their black, Hispanic, Asian, or gay it does not make their crime worse than someone who kills someone for their wallet or because they were in the wrong neighborhood (an instance of racism towards whites). Hate crimes, IMHO, are flawed in their reporting and are not enough to convince me.

You also said "in my experience" which unfortunatly is a flaw in many peoples judgements of groups of people (I am not calling you anything, I'm just showing the flaw in using your personal experiences to judge a group of people). In my personal experience, people who played football in middle school and high school have usually been major a-holes. If I were to judge all people who played MS or HS football in that matter I would be wrong, even though my experience has taught me othrerwise. A more radical comparison deals with my mom's husband. The guy is a racist even though he denies it. He believe's the majority of black people are lazy and unreliable. He tells me that every black person he ever knew was like that and while I tried to tell him that he can't make generalizations based only on his experiences he wouldn't listen to me on the matter. I want to close my comments by again thanking you for being polite and respectful to me despite our differences.

Chairman Smith, this is in reference to you objecting to my use of the word liberal. While liberal is not really a bad word I will admit that used too much it can seem like too much of a generalization. My use of the word is just the way I view mainstream media (entertainment industry). You may see it differently but I constantly see in movies and television a totall disregard to conservatives and Christians. Conservatives are usually portrayed at greedy spoiled millionares, clean-cut and boring drones with no sense of humor, radical anti-government hillbillies, or racist southern KKK members. Christians are usually portrayed as anti-abortion terroritsts, hypocritical televangilists, or easily manipulated puppets with no mind of their own. If movies or T.V. shows show Christians or Conservatives in a good light they are often critisized and black balled by the powers that be (remember how Hollywood maistream tried to bury Passion Of The Christ and giving it a snowball's chance in hell). Another thing, being liberal in your attitude towards others seems to be the "in" thing in the entertainment industry. Their are many actors, directors, writers, and musicians who go out of their way to tear down conservative Christians or their principles. And many who don't follow this trend are sometimes looked down upon by their peers and aren't tolerated or people complain about them. How many times have you heard people complain about Ted Nugent being a radical maniac while calling The Dixie Chicks victims of intolerable hicks (i.e. they call conservatives intolerable while being intolerable towards conservatives). When I refer to the entertainment industry as liberals it is just my way of complaining about their hypocracy. In reality nobody is completly to the left (except militant Communists) and nobody is completly to the right (except militant nazis). As my dad says "the only time time liberal is truly a bad word is when people force others to think the way they do and the only time conservative is tryly a bad word is when people force others to live the way they live.

Kmorg, I understand your point. What I should have said is nobody in America is trying to force you to speak our language. Hollywood, (I can't believe I'm going to defend them) can't film a movie in different languages it would take too much time and money, the best they can do is make subtitles or overdub it in other languages to get it to the rest of the world. After all that is the same way non-English speaking countries distribute their films to us (we just read the subtitles, we don't feel like we need to learn, lets say Chinese to watch a martial arts film from China). Also American businesses when they branch out to deal with other countries usually has someone in the company that speaks another language or the other country provides a translator. If you feel pressured to learn English, I am sorry. Nobody should HAVE to learn another language unless it is necessary for them to do so (i.e. for a job that requires it or if they move to a country with a different language). Learning another language is good, it expands your mind and helps you understand different cultures. However, since I do not have an overseas job and I don't feel like learning a new language I shouldn't have to. It does not mean I think I'm too good to learn another language it just means I'm not interested. I would like to have learned a second language when I was younger and my head could absorb it but at this time in my life I don't want to go through the difficulty of learning one.

Well, those are my final comments on the issues raised by others. I don't expect ANYONE to agree with me. We should be have the grace to let people have their beliefs and vise versa. We don't all have to agree on everything to get along. While I do wish more people aggreed with me politically and religiously I don't believe they should be forced to. Besides forcing others to believe as you do has never worked. In the Midldle Ages people were forced to accept Christ, in their heart they never truly believed but played lip service as opposed to being tortured and killed. God gave all men free will, we are responsible for our own choices in life right or wrong and should never pretend to assume we have the right to make people's choices for them. I do like to talk to people I agree with after all everybody likes to be with people who share similar interests but I also feel that two people can almost always find common ground by avoiding issues that cause dissention. I listen to talk radio because I like listening to people I agree with have debates with those I don't, however, I prefer to be a spectator. I REALLY dislike disscussing politics with people because I don't have the temperment for it and it almost always causes one or both parties to get angry and frustrated. I am deeply rooted in my conservative beliefs and nothing anyone can say is going to change my opinion. Most of you are deeply rooted in your beliefs (sorry you younger people, but your opinions are more likely to change than those of us who are older-there are exceptions so don't think I'm singling you guys out) and nothing I can say will change your opinion. We can debate each other til we're blue in the face but it accomplishes nothing (it's a dead end road). I prefer to leave it to the political pundits to debate politics. I will vote according to my beliefs but I do not want to argue with people about this crap anymore (which is why I have avoided it in the past). From now on I may give my opinion on certain issues but I will refuse to get into pissing matches with those who wish to argue. I'd much rather talk about music, movies, television shows, and other non-partisan issues.

DallasBlack wrote:

Chairman Smith, this is in reference to you objecting to my use of the word liberal. While liberal is not really a bad word I will admit that used too much it can seem like too much of a generalization. My use of the word is just the way I view mainstream media (entertainment industry). You may see it differently but I constantly see in movies and television a totall disregard to conservatives and Christians. Conservatives are usually portrayed at greedy spoiled millionares, clean-cut and boring drones with no sense of humor, radical anti-government hillbillies, or racist southern KKK members. Christians are usually portrayed as anti-abortion terroritsts, hypocritical televangilists, or easily manipulated puppets with no mind of their own. If movies or T.V. shows show Christians or Conservatives in a good light they are often critisized and black balled by the powers that be (remember how Hollywood maistream tried to bury Passion Of The Christ and giving it a snowball's chance in hell). Another thing, being liberal in your attitude towards others seems to be the "in" thing in the entertainment industry. Their are many actors, directors, writers, and musicians who go out of their way to tear down conservative Christians or their principles. And many who don't follow this trend are sometimes looked down upon by their peers and aren't tolerated or people complain about them. How many times have you heard people complain about Ted Nugent being a radical maniac while calling The Dixie Chicks victims of intolerable hicks (i.e. they call conservatives intolerable while being intolerable towards conservatives). When I refer to the entertainment industry as liberals it is just my way of complaining about their hypocracy. In reality nobody is completly to the left (except militant Communists) and nobody is completly to the right (except militant nazis). As my dad says "the only time time liberal is truly a bad word is when people force others to think the way they do and the only time conservative is tryly a bad word is when people force others to live the way they live.. [/color]

Excellent post, I do see where you are coming from.

I think both words have been corrupted, do you honestly beleive the people that call themselves Conservative or Liberal really are? Both schools of thought have been hijacked.

DallasBlack wrote:

Here I am again and with this post I will give my final thoughts on some of the issues here. Some of what I say will also address my posts in the apology topic and Kid Rock topic. This will be my final word on everything that happened several days ago and afterwards I will let the matters rest (I will read peoples reactions to what I say but I will avoid any conflict).

First I must address someone who I said I severed ties with and hope he gives me the courtesy of actually reading what I post. Spectrefate, while I still believe you over reacted to my short political statement (come on, on the Kid Rock topic I just typed two sentences-hardly an irrational diatribe, and I am intitled to my own opinion after all) and feel that you, very wrongly, accused me of bigotry, I must come clear on something. I, very wrongly as well, over reacted to your comments about Nightwish and symphonic metal. I was way too defensive. That topic was a way for people to give their true feelings on music they dislike and I did not give them the respect I should have (I will personally post my comments on bands that I think suck). I said that I tried to make peace with you by trying to have you see my side of the issue (I wasn't trying to get you to agree, just to respect my view on the matter) but instead I should have apologized to you. When I saw what you said about my speaking English comment I got angry and instead of taking time to cool down and calmly address you I did what I do WAY too many times. I let my anger do my talking for me. So I apologize most sincerely for loosing my temper, if I believed in Karma I'd say it was retribution for me being so defensive to you earlier.

This goes for everyone I tiraded on in the Who Sucks thread. It should never matter who likes or dislikes certain music as long as I like it. All though Wed. it didn't seem like it, I do respect everyone's opinion and believe that everyone has a right to theirs. If you like what I like great, if you don't you are intitled to your opinion. I do not, however, apologize for my beliefs or even expressing my beliefs here. Just like I would never begrudge other people to express their beliefs I would expect others to do the same for me.

Uncle Saxon, while we disagree greatly on political matters and have different views on the lessons of history I really want you to know that I respect your position. Most people who disagree with conservatives tend to throw out words like "racist", "facist", "nazi", or "homophobe" instead of rationaly debating and comming up with concise arguments for their opinion (I do not release conservatives from this complaint, we use words like "commie" or "radical leftists" all too often as well). You on the other hand didn't resort to name calling and gave me a concise argument for your side.

Now on your comments about showing us hate crime statistics to support your argument, I must respectfully disagree with the use of the word "hate crime". Many times people will call any assult by a white or straight man on a minority or a homosexual a "hate crime" even if the reason had nothing to do with race. On the same token many times an assult on a white man by a group of minorities is not considered a "hate crime". Racism is not just a white man's crime. Black people can be just as if not more racist, same can be said for Asians, Jews, Hispanics, etc. Unfortunatly hate crimes are many times only used in reference to white racists so some statistics don't include other kinds. I can't stand the term because a crime by it's very nature is an act of hate. If someone kills someone because their black, Hispanic, Asian, or gay it does not make their crime worse than someone who kills someone for their wallet or because they were in the wrong neighborhood (an instance of racism towards whites). Hate crimes, IMHO, are flawed in their reporting and are not enough to convince me.

You also said "in my experience" which unfortunatly is a flaw in many peoples judgements of groups of people (I am not calling you anything, I'm just showing the flaw in using your personal experiences to judge a group of people). In my personal experience, people who played football in middle school and high school have usually been major a-holes. If I were to judge all people who played MS or HS football in that matter I would be wrong, even though my experience has taught me othrerwise. A more radical comparison deals with my mom's husband. The guy is a racist even though he denies it. He believe's the majority of black people are lazy and unreliable. He tells me that every black person he ever knew was like that and while I tried to tell him that he can't make generalizations based only on his experiences he wouldn't listen to me on the matter. I want to close my comments by again thanking you for being polite and respectful to me despite our differences.

Chairman Smith, this is in reference to you objecting to my use of the word liberal. While liberal is not really a bad word I will admit that used too much it can seem like too much of a generalization. My use of the word is just the way I view mainstream media (entertainment industry). You may see it differently but I constantly see in movies and television a totall disregard to conservatives and Christians. Conservatives are usually portrayed at greedy spoiled millionares, clean-cut and boring drones with no sense of humor, radical anti-government hillbillies, or racist southern KKK members. Christians are usually portrayed as anti-abortion terroritsts, hypocritical televangilists, or easily manipulated puppets with no mind of their own. If movies or T.V. shows show Christians or Conservatives in a good light they are often critisized and black balled by the powers that be (remember how Hollywood maistream tried to bury Passion Of The Christ and giving it a snowball's chance in hell). Another thing, being liberal in your attitude towards others seems to be the "in" thing in the entertainment industry. Their are many actors, directors, writers, and musicians who go out of their way to tear down conservative Christians or their principles. And many who don't follow this trend are sometimes looked down upon by their peers and aren't tolerated or people complain about them. How many times have you heard people complain about Ted Nugent being a radical maniac while calling The Dixie Chicks victims of intolerable hicks (i.e. they call conservatives intolerable while being intolerable towards conservatives). When I refer to the entertainment industry as liberals it is just my way of complaining about their hypocracy. In reality nobody is completly to the left (except militant Communists) and nobody is completly to the right (except militant nazis). As my dad says "the only time time liberal is truly a bad word is when people force others to think the way they do and the only time conservative is tryly a bad word is when people force others to live the way they live.

Kmorg, I understand your point. What I should have said is nobody in America is trying to force you to speak our language. Hollywood, (I can't believe I'm going to defend them) can't film a movie in different languages it would take too much time and money, the best they can do is make subtitles or overdub it in other languages to get it to the rest of the world. After all that is the same way non-English speaking countries distribute their films to us (we just read the subtitles, we don't feel like we need to learn, lets say Chinese to watch a martial arts film from China). Also American businesses when they branch out to deal with other countries usually has someone in the company that speaks another language or the other country provides a translator. If you feel pressured to learn English, I am sorry. Nobody should HAVE to learn another language unless it is necessary for them to do so (i.e. for a job that requires it or if they move to a country with a different language). Learning another language is good, it expands your mind and helps you understand different cultures. However, since I do not have an overseas job and I don't feel like learning a new language I shouldn't have to. It does not mean I think I'm too good to learn another language it just means I'm not interested. I would like to have learned a second language when I was younger and my head could absorb it but at this time in my life I don't want to go through the difficulty of learning one.

Well, those are my final comments on the issues raised by others. I don't expect ANYONE to agree with me. We should be have the grace to let people have their beliefs and vise versa. We don't all have to agree on everything to get along. While I do wish more people aggreed with me politically and religiously I don't believe they should be forced to. Besides forcing others to believe as you do has never worked. In the Midldle Ages people were forced to accept Christ, in their heart they never truly believed but played lip service as opposed to being tortured and killed. God gave all men free will, we are responsible for our own choices in life right or wrong and should never pretend to assume we have the right to make people's choices for them. I do like to talk to people I agree with after all everybody likes to be with people who share similar interests but I also feel that two people can almost always find common ground by avoiding issues that cause dissention. I listen to talk radio because I like listening to people I agree with have debates with those I don't, however, I prefer to be a spectator. I REALLY dislike disscussing politics with people because I don't have the temperment for it and it almost always causes one or both parties to get angry and frustrated. I am deeply rooted in my conservative beliefs and nothing anyone can say is going to change my opinion. Most of you are deeply rooted in your beliefs (sorry you younger people, but your opinions are more likely to change than those of us who are older-there are exceptions so don't think I'm singling you guys out) and nothing I can say will change your opinion. We can debate each other til we're blue in the face but it accomplishes nothing (it's a dead end road). I prefer to leave it to the political pundits to debate politics. I will vote according to my beliefs but I do not want to argue with people about this crap anymore (which is why I have avoided it in the past). From now on I may give my opinion on certain issues but I will refuse to get into pissing matches with those who wish to argue. I'd much rather talk about music, movies, television shows, and other non-partisan issues.

HAHAAHA, how long did that take to type?

defender_of_the_faith wrote:

HAHAAHA, how long did that take to type?

I should say it took in total of one hour. I really wanted to clear the air and make peace with all parties involved and to address those who were puzzled at some of my statements.

DallasBlack wrote:

defender_of_the_faith wrote:

HAHAAHA, how long did that take to type?

I should say it took in total of one hour. I really wanted to clear the air and make peace with all parties involved and to address those who were puzzled at some of my statements.

What really did it is the olive eye picture.... HAHAHA! How can I be mad at something so funny!!!!

DallasBlack wrote:

(come on, on the Kid Rock topic I just typed two sentences-hardly an irrational diatribe

I must correct myself on that. Also I messed up one of the names (got confused from lack of sleep I guess). I've since corrected my mistake. I looked at what I posted in the Kid Rock topic and it was four senctences and was quite off the wall. I understand people's reactions now and must say I'm sorry for getting carried away (I should never post anything political right after listening to talk radio). While I meant most of what I said (remember it's just my opinion) I agree that something like that belongs on a blog and not a music discussion board. NOW I have made my final comments.

Administrators, when you feel like it go ahead and either lock this or put in in the R.I.P. area because I think everybody who's going to read this has already read it. Also I will more than likely never use this topic again. Besides if I had my head screwed on right none of this would ever have happened (and I wish it hadn't).

I think Billy Milano would love to join this rant. Speak English or Die!