Dallas Black's Irrational Diatribes

I am through with defending my conservative patriotism against people who don't like it. If you don't like that I love America, that is your problem and there is nothing I can say or do that will change your mind. However, I must say this, I never mentioned anything about messing with Texas. Sure I am proud to be a Texan, even prouder to be an American, but I would not be so bold or as to say that makes me superior to anyone. Heck, as a Christian I believe everyone has their flaws and nodody is any better than the next. Yankee vs. Redneck, the North vs. South thing, that should have died over 100 years ago. Racists abound everywhere not just in Texas and the South. For every idiot like that guy in El Paso there are plenty of others up North just like him.

As far as the language thing, I do believe it is good to know more than one language but not nessessary unless you travel abroad or need it for a job. Nobody forces the people in the other countries to learn English, they learn it mostly because they want to. By the same token I don't want to learn another language because I don't feel like I should have to nor do I feel I should be forced to. If I visit another country I will simply bring a translator or learn just enough to get by. My mother's parents just like many of those other immigrants you mentioned didn't speak English, but guess what? They learned it. That Pakistani guy speaks English by the way. At that time it was a common courtesy for immigrants to one country to learn the language of the place they were going to make thier home. My grandparents learned English and they made sure their children learned it too (before they learned their native language, as for my dad's side there is some Black Irish mixed with Native American so that wasn't an isssue). These days that courtesy is over. People come to America and never learn English and expect to be accomidated (or as you stated, they are accomidated then don't feel the need to learn). If Americans were to do that they would get kicked out of the country. If I were to move to Spain (beautiful country over there) I would force myself to learn Spanish and would not expect anyone to accomidate me.

When in Rome do as the Romans do, but don't expect the Romans to do what you do.

SAXON1500 wrote:

If you were all REALLY open-minded, we would all be speaking Chippewa right now. But it is the Euro-conservative power-mongering train of thought from 500 years ago, that has only become more pronounced,
that has lead to the hate that encompasses our American society. First, that POS Columbus ends up in the wrong place, rapes and pillages his way across the east coast. Then we all leave the "tyranny of taxation" from Europe (alot of good that did. What do you pay? 30%?). Think back to Ellis Island. About 10% of those immigrants spoke English. That was your great great grampa DB. He probably was not from Britain. The Pakistani that is selling you smokes or owns the shabby hotel down the street is that same person. Funny thing is, I have been to 20 different countries around the world. Almost everyone speaks english as a second language. Americans are too lazy, ignorant, spoiled, stubborn, and SUPERIOR to have to take the time to learn a second language. I believe most Hispanics that come here try to learn english quickly. But the corporations (mostly owned by conservatives - make the connection) are allowing the Hispanics to become lazy by offering all thier services with a Hispanic option, so they can make that extra dollar.

And this is not a personal rip on you at all, as I don't know you as an individual, but being a Yankee, the whole "Don't mess with Texas, cuz we're big, bad rednecks" thing is way played. Texas itself was stolen from Mexico, has wanted to be its' own country (republic) for decades, and I say "let 'em". I was visiting my brother in the army in El Paso a couple years ago and one of the locals made a racist remark. I called him on it and his explaination was - "What, we treat our niggers here good". That was very telling to me.

Bottom line, opinions are like buttholes - everyone has one (eyesore just sticks his finger in his opinion - haha).

Hey Uncle SAXON.
You should be the next president!!!!!!!!!!
If only more americans had the same common sense you speak here, the world would be a better and safer place! (NOT beeing sarcastic here)

Thanks Olaf.

And I agree with about 95% of what you said above DB. Everything except that part about just as much racism in the North. That is just unfactual. Maybe it is because I live in one of the most Liberal and caring cities in America that we have that general perspective up here. Other than that, I thought your words were insightful. I too am proud to be an American. At the same time, I am ashamed beyond infinity of our government, and alot of the history that our government was founded upon. I, too, would die for you. I would die for you as a human, not as an American.

DallasBlack wrote:

..... Nobody forces the people in the other countries to learn English, they learn it mostly because they want to. By the same token I don't want to learn another language because I don't feel like I should have to nor do I feel I should be forced to.....

First of all, I agree with you that people should try to learn the language of the country they live in. How else can they communicate? BUT, the quote above have me puzzled. Do you really think it's achoice for us to learn English? My daughter is 6 years old, hasn't been to school for more than half a sememster, and she already knows more English than my father! NATO, FN, Britain and USA, Hollywood.... Do you need more reasons why we actually HAVE to learn your language? It's not like the Americans tried to learn Esperanto or anything!

OH THAT ONE HURT, LOL!!!!

I'm a displaced "Yankee" living in Texas. It's a friendly place - and Abilene is uniquely friendly - but there is definitely more racism here, both covert and open.....

SAXON1500 wrote:

Thanks Olaf.

And I agree with about 95% of
what you said above DB. Everything except that part about just as much
racism in the North. That is just unfactual. Maybe it is because I live
in one of the most Liberal and caring cities in America that we have
that general perspective up here.

Go to Michigan (where I am from). My uncle is very racist, in large
part because he worked in the construction industry and kept getting
fired so minorities could be hired to replace him. I'm not making
excuses for him, BTW, just letting you know where he is coming from.

I think there is pockets of racism all over, but I do think we are
heading in the right direction on our attitudes towards racism as a
society. It is becoming more rare and more vilified.

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Other than that, I thought your words were insightful. I
too am proud to be an American. At the same time, I am ashamed beyond
infinity of our government, and alot of the history that our government
was founded upon. I, too, would die for you. I would die for you as a
human, not as an American.

Amen, brother.

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I think there is pockets of racism all over, but I do think we are
heading in the right direction on our attitudes towards racism as a
society. It is becoming more rare and more vilified.

This is true.....the average person outside of the "racist circle" will give major crap to anyone they do see/hear saying these things....

Racism is being forced underground.....

Personally, I don't think racism can ever be eradicated completely, but
I'd like to see it be as rare as possible. The only people I am against
are a$$holes, and they come in every color.

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Everything except that part about just as much racism in the North. That is just unfactual. Maybe it is because I live in one of the most Liberal and caring cities in America that we have that general perspective up here.

Down here and where i grew up your city is known as white heaven. I've also seen blatant racism on the vikings message board. Also, Boston is major prejudiced.

The place where i've met the most racist people is central california.

Prejudice is not a regional thing. Lets not go there.

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Prejudice is not a regional thing. Lets not go there.

Hate is everywhere. It is an inherant sin. And I, for one, am quite proud that my generation and the generation that has followed mine keeps chipping into that hatred. But, I disagree with that statement Rich. If ya need me to dig up stats on where the most hate crimes are committed, or where the most convictions against minorities have been overturned because of new dna evidence laws, etc - I will. And I am saying that MOST people in the south ARE NOT racist. But, there is a higher level of distolerance and ignorance in the south (alot of it passed down through the generations). There was a reason for the civl war. There are reasons for "The South Shall Rise Again" bumper stickers. There is a reason an obsolete confederate flag still waves all over the place down there. There was a reason Dr King was assasinated in Memphis. I lived in Florida, too, remember? And Please, Please, let me stress I am not stereotyping every person south of the Mason/Dixon line. Just drawing a distinction.

and "White Heaven"? I know what you mean, but I bet some would read something totally different into those words.

We have officially highjacked DB's thread. Sorry, bro.

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There are reasons for "The South Shall Rise Again" bumper stickers. There is a reason an obsolete confederate flag still waves all over the place down there.

Just because a certain orginazation adopts a symbol, doesn't mean that that flag is racist.

Sounds like you're prejudiced against the south.

You can dig up all the stats you want, that doesn't mean the south is more racist NOW. There are racists places up north and down here.

I think it's funny that you call the south racist when your city is known as white heaven. Be careful generalizing people. It can cause problems. It's not cool, bro. You're walking a thin line on this one. BTW, I'm from the north, i just hate the racist southern stereotype. I think it's bullshit.

Especially after Hurricane Katrina, and how the people who run this country treated the gulf coast as a whole and continue to treat the gulf coast like crap.

I ain't walkin' any line. I am running full-throttle through the whole thing.

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Sounds like you're prejudiced against the south.

Even after I PLEADED for everyone to know that I understand just the opposite? Have you been drinking? You're kinda being a dick with that shot.

I am not stereotyping, I am only drawing from my own personal experiences. And the Confederate flag DOES carry with it a stigma. Is it deserved? Yes and no. It's just one of those things. Some people see it as a symbol of thier heritage. Others see it as someone overtly showing thier personal philosophies, without having to come out and say it. Some think it's just a piece of cloth.

And since SUC won't explain his "White Heaven" comments (talk about dangerous terminology...), Minneapolis is known for a large Scandinavian, Irish, and German population. In other words - White people. The truth is we are very diverse with large pockets of Hispanics, Asians, Arabs, etc. And Actually The Twin Cities has THE LARGEST Somalian and Ethiopian communities in America. But, comparison-wise to other large metro areas, we are majority of whities.

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And since SUC won't explain his "White Heaven" comments

All I know is that's what it's called. Down here and where I grew up in NY. also, I've seen many racist dinks from there on the Vikings message board. Maybe they moved there from the south, and that's why they're like that.

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You're kinda being a dick with that shot.

Says the guy generalizing a whole region of people. You can plead all you want, but you're coming off as prejudiced against the south, while calling them the same thing. They're your words, not mine. You typed them, now you have to live with them.

I'm done with this subject. This is exactly why I don't discuss this crap.

SAXON1500 wrote:

We have officially highjacked DB's thread. Sorry, bro.

No big deal. This was started as a light hearted thread in an attempt to break the ice between me and another member due to my liberal comment of mainstream music. That is why my three initianl rants were about traffic and customer service. Unfortunatly that certain member used something out of context and got my feathers ruffled up. I will give my final thoughts on everything raised here and try to put it to rest when I have the time. SUC, I agree with you. Political arguments and arguments about our different cultures always lead to a dead end. I will be busy the next couple of days getting my dad's house clean for his monthly return and spending some time with him. I will pop up here and there but won't be back in full force til after Church Sunday. Then I will address my feelings on the matters and try to box them up and put them in storage. This will come to an end for me then.

I like cheese

Just thought I'd share...

SideShowDisaSter wrote:

I like cheese

Just thought I'd share...

any certain type or just all kinds of cheese?

*clears throat*

http://www.heartofmetal.net/of-unsound-mind-f2/what-is-your-favorite-kind-of-cheese-t2566.htm?highlight=cheese

thrasher73 wrote:

SideShowDisaSter wrote:

I like cheese

Just thought I'd share...

any certain type or just all kinds of cheese?

I'm most into the medium-to-hard types (cheddar, provalone, swiss, etc). My wife likes the soft cheeses (and many of the stinky ones ). I think that makes her a pinko, liberal, racist, classist commie with anger issues or something...

spectrefate wrote:

*clears throat*

http://www.heartofmetal.net/of-unsound-mind-f2/what-is-your-favorite-kind-of-cheese-t2566.htm?highlight=cheese

Did you just break out the "search" function on me? Thems fightin' links my friend!

spectrefate wrote:

*clears throat*

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yeah,yeah I know.Thanks Eyesore

It's just that I put so much thought into the original "Favorite Cheese" thread....

Yah but I found it so......cheesy.






Yes, I went there.

All cheese is good except for blue cheese, I like the blue cheese dipping sauce for chicken wings, though i dont think that counts.

SideShowDisaSter wrote:

Yah but I found it so......cheesy.






Yes, I went there.

ouch