Guns n Roses Chinese Democracy

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This is a rumor and I am not buying it, but this is from Classic Rock Magazine's website:

Could this be the Guns N’ Roses stadium tour that was rumoured yesterday?
As if yesterday’s news that Guns N’ Roses could be embarking on a worldwide summer stadium hadn’t set tongues wagging enough, today GNR Daily are reporting that Van Halen could be joining them for this trek.
It’s the use of the word ‘worldwide’ that’s got our interest up. GNR and Van Halen in the UK? Yes, please!
Download festival promoter Andy Copping previously mentioned to us that a Van Halen show in the UK was unlikely to happen for years and the band had also previously mentioned that they were on hold until after Wolfgang Van Halen graduates but you never know, eh?

So here we are at the tail end of August. They better hurry up if they are still planning a worldwide summer stadium tour, dontcha think?

GNR/VH stadium is back to being reported again? They were saying that at the beginning of the year.

Metal Misfit wrote:

GNR/VH stadium is back to being reported again? They were saying that at the beginning of the year.

Nah, I was just bumping an old thread out of boredom. I just happenend to be listening to GnR at the time. Didn't mean to get your hopes up.

Don't worry. You didn't.

Stadiums aren't big enough for the egos of Axl & Eddie to occupy at the same time.

I doubt Axl will ever tour to support the album unless he needs money, and even then he wont complete it.....

As always, Axl is being unreasonable, he has pretty much thrown in the towel
where this album's concerned. No video, no tour, and no publicity, the perfect
formula to have after putting out an album, the fans waited on for 10 plus years.
Why Axl is not happy with the end result of this album is still unknown, he has
totally ditched it, and now wants nothing to do with it.What gets me is why
did he turn the finish product to the record company in the first place if it
still wasn't what he wanted? What more could he do to make his music
better? 6 or so of the songs had been going around for years in leaked form
and it turns out the same recordings were used, just mixed for album quality.
Why not re-record those songs instead of using those same recordings of
Better, There Was A Time, The Blues, I.R.S, Madagascar, etc that were
floating around for a few years. Most of the fans that waited patiently had
already heard those tracks hundreds of times before and then by the time
the real thing was released maybe they had already become a tad dull.
Maybe Axl had nothing to do with the release in the first place, maybe the
record company wasn't "given" the finished product like previously reported.
Maybe someone else turned in the music and Axl couldn't stop the release.
Axl is mad about something, but what? I personally like the album, and now
at least I can listen to the songs, and even though it might not be the
recordings Axl wanted me to hear, at least at 43 (not getting any younger)
I'm able to hear at least something before my ears burn out.
Thanks Axl, for slipping and somehow letting someone put YOUR music out
I guess old age is getting a little to the both of us.

I thought this was an awesome release, the best hard rock album in YEARS, I still listen to it every now and then, so, if he's "done" with this album, he needs to get to work on making the next one (or at least something under his own name)!

It's amazing he's still a part of the Geffen roster as this point. He must have a really good contract that would be too much of a headache for the label execs to try to undo.

The latest in the never ending soap opera :


Rock band Guns N' Roses is in legal hot water after being accused of stealing material from a German electronic music producer, reports Oren Yaniv of the New York Daily News.
A copyright infringement lawsuit filed in Manhattan Federal Court claims the song "Riad N' the Bedouins," from the group's latest album, "Chinese Democracy," used two of Ulrich Schnauss' recordings.
The suit names Geffen Records, group frontman Axl Rose and nine others who collaborated on the much-anticipated, long-delayed album that was released November 2008, 15 years after the band's last studio production.
Domino Recording Co. claims in the suit it advised Geffen on February 26th that the Guns N' Roses song steals from Schnauss' tracks "Wherever You Are" and "A Strangely Isolated Place."
The opening portion of the song contains samples of both recordings, said Brian Caplan, a lawyer for Domino.
In responding to the February letter, Geffen "attempted to explain it away," Caplan said. "They tried to justify it."
Litigation was a last resort, he added. In the requested jury trial, a music expert would have to show that the samples were "electronically copied verbatim without authorization," Caplan said.
Calls to Geffen were not returned.
The suit asks for a halt to all sales and distribution of the platinium-selling "Chinese Democracy," which sold over 3.2 million copies worldwide.
It also demands at least $1 million in compensation.
The suit is the latest chapter in the troubled history of the album, which took nearly two decades and millions of dollars to complete.

I had this album for a week or two and then traded it. 7/10

I still haven't heard this album. And I'm in no hurry to. I'll upgrade my cassette copy of APPETITE FOR DESTRUCTION to CD first.

Fat Freddy wrote:

I still haven't heard this album. And I'm in no hurry to. I'll upgrade my cassette copy of APPETITE FOR DESTRUCTION to CD first.

Maybe Schloomie will unearth a copy of it in his backyard and trade it to you.

7thSaviour wrote:

I had this album for a week or two and then traded it. 7/10

Do all of your cds have to rate 8 or higher/10 to keep it?



Spec, your name is not in red anymore. Did you get demoted? Did that mean old Kmorg take away your powers for making too many graphs?

Hey, that lawsuit keeps Axl in the news. He's happy.

And this thread won't die!

Chinese Democracy isn't bad... But GNR is really not that good without Slash...

This story is funny. Most of the songs on Chinese Democracy are crap. "Riad 'N the Bedouins was one of the few songs that I actually liked on the album. It was a real struggle as I tried to give this album a chance many moons ago. The only other tracks I cared for were the title track, "Scraped", "Better", & "Sorry". Let me stress, I liked these tunes, not LOVED. I don't think I've even listened to them since last November. Mr. Rose needs to check his ego at the door and get on the phone with the man who wears the black hat, and have discussions that revolve a reunion tour!

Axl just needs to go away.

Axl and Company have announced Canadian tour dates. Any bets on when this tour falls apart? I'm guessing somewhere around Jan. 12th.

SEBASTIAN BACH and DANKO JONES will support GUNS N' ROSES on the following dates:

Jan. 13 - Winnipeg, MB - MTS Centre
Jan. 16 - Calgary, AB - Pengrowth Saddledome
Jan. 17 - Edmonton, AB - Rexall Place
Jan. 19 - Saskatoon, SK - Credit Union Centre
Jan. 20 - Regina, SK - Brandt Centre
Jan. 24 - Hamilton, ON - Copps Coliseum
Jan. 25 - London, ON - John Labatt Centre
Jan. 27 - Montreal, PQ - Bell Centre
Jan. 28 - Toronto, ON - Air Canada Centre
Jan. 31 - Ottawa, ON - Scotiabank Place
Feb. 01 - Quebec City, PQ - Colisee Pepsi
Feb. 03 - Moncton, NB - Moncton Coliseum
Feb. 04 - Halifax, NS - Metro Centre

im waiting if EU Tour will appear next year.
wanna see Axl and Seb. i miss GnR in 2006.

Who's still a remember of Guns n Roses? I have lost track who's still in the band.

manny wrote:

Who's still a remember of Guns n Roses? I have lost track who's still in the band.

If it's not Slash, Duff, Izzy and Steven (or Matt), does it really matter?

Wikipedia says this:

Axl - tool
Bumblefoot - guitar
Tommy Stinson - bass
Dizzy Reed - keyboards
DJ Ashba - guitar
Richard Fortus - guitar
Frank Ferrer (who?) - drums
Chris Pitman - keyboards

I always like to say it. Chinese Democracy simply suxxx

Are we still talking about this?

Schbopo wrote:

Are we still talking about this?

It must be a slow day... The only memorable thing about this cd is the debacle with Dr. Pepper...

MetalGuy71 wrote:

manny wrote:

Who's still a remember of Guns n Roses? I have lost track who's still in the band.

If it's not Slash, Duff, Izzy and Steven (or Matt), does it really matter?

Wikipedia says this:

Axl - tool
Bumblefoot - guitar
Tommy Stinson - bass
Dizzy Reed - keyboards
DJ Ashba - guitar
Richard Fortus - guitar
Frank Ferrer (who?) - drums
Chris Pitman - keyboards

FRANK FERRER was the drummer for a fantastic unknown early 90's band called THE BEAUTIFUL...they were sort of a JANE'S ADDICTIONy strange rock band, very good though....

I dunno. I actually liked "CHinese Democracy"....there was no way in ehll it could have ever lived up to any hype...16 years is a long time for hype to build...could ANYTHING have delivered on that?