Exodus now...

Is it just me or has the addition of Rob Dukes just stepped it up a notch for these guys? Shovel and Atrocity are wicked!!!

For me it was a huge step down. On SHKM he sounded like a metalcore vocalist, not thrash.

I liked Souza so to me it's step down.

i think it's a step up . . . i never really could stand souza's voice, always thought the music was excellent though

Temple, don't you realise that thrash metal is a reaction to religion? Why you push your God music?

Maybe it's not the voice, but rather the subject matter - Children of a Worthless God - Shroud of Urine?

Metallkaninchen wrote:

don't you realise that thrash metal is a reaction to religion?

I think I am missing that chapter in my Thrash Metal for Dummies book. What page is that on?

spectrefate wrote:

Metallkaninchen wrote:

don't you realise that thrash metal is a reaction to religion?

I think I am missing that chapter in my Thrash Metal for Dummies book. What page is that on?

Revised edition!

Metallkaninchen wrote:

Maybe it's not the voice, but rather the subject matter - Children of a Worthless God - Shroud of Urine?

Aren't those on "Tempo of the Damned"?

I like Dukes vocals alright,I just liked Zetro better.More original

candlemass wrote:

spectrefate wrote:

Metallkaninchen wrote:

don't you realise that thrash metal is a reaction to religion?

I think I am missing that chapter in my Thrash Metal for Dummies book. What page is that on?

Revised edition!

Oh! There it is.

I like all three Exodus vocalists. I don't see Dukes as "a step up". I just see it as Exodus forging ahead. Keep the thrash metal coming.

As for thrash being "a reaction to religion", that's just not the truth at all. Thrash metal has room in it for many ideals and beliefs.

Haven't heard the new one, not rushing out to get it, and didn't care much for Dukes on SHKM. I'm a Souza fan.

Metallkaninchen wrote:

Temple, don't you realise that thrash metal is a reaction to religion? Why you push your God music?

Could you give us some clarification on this statement?

INVADERS wrote:

i think it's a step up . . . i never really could stand souza's voice, always thought the music was excellent though

i agree with this statement pretty much, although i liked many of the Souza albums. i think the last 2 Exodus albums are the best ones since Bonded.

Metallkaninchen wrote:

Temple, don't you realise that thrash metal is a reaction to religion? Why you push your God music?

I'm gonna assume that this new poster doesn't know that this site is basically run by a "Christian" thrash band? With that said there are many members here who aren't Christians. We don't all share the same religious beliefs but I think we all share our love of metal and understand that there is definitely room for all different religions in metal.

troublezone wrote:

I liked Souza so to me it's step down.

Ditto. I like Rob, but he's no Souza.

Guess I'm the only one here who prefers Baloff.

I think mc666 prefers baloff too.


Baloff is my second fave.

1. Steve Souza
2. Paul Baloff
3. Rob Dukes

Hamer12 wrote:

Guess I'm the only one here who prefers Baloff.

no way pal, Baloff was always my favorite. i've said that many times.

Beat ya to it mc!!!

i'm touched that you remembered

Candlemass: you're right about Shroud of Urine - Tempo), but Children of a Worthless God - is from The Atrocity Exhibition. Perhaps I should have said Altered Boy instead...

Spectrefate: Nice book cover!!

If we look at the history of the early thrash bands it is clearly seen that they are quite in reaction to religion and the predominant Christian value system and other such square values derived from religion's affect upon the human brain - note the absense of "God metal" during these times. As often happens with any genre, posers want to be included so they put out their poor quality crap that completely misses the original spirit of the music. Look what Nirvana and the like did to rock, which was quite uplifting and rebellious - they made a very lame "I wanna die, life sucks so bad, PLEASE KILL ME!!!, subgenre.(Kobain could have seen a shrink and saved the world from lame depressing music...)

I liked all the Exodus singers - Souza and Dukes are favorites to me - legible, forceful, emotional screaming is a great hallmark of this reactionary genre - as is clear, precise and intricate instrumentation(a quality lost in much of the modern metal today - sadly...) ....


Metal was never about promoting or loving God - some people's misguided children just crammed a square peg in a round hole.

Come ye gather us all and react vehemently to dogma!