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Troublezone wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

I'm a moderate. I dislike them all, which is why I find all of this so funny.

Do you support Biden’s decisions?

Support how? Am I blaming him for Afghanistan? Meh. He botched some of it, but so did Trump and those who came before him. This is a multi-president, multi-party, decades long fuck-up.

Exactly what did Trump botch on Afghanistan? It was George Bush that sent us there, and we’ve been there ever since. All Trump did was plan an exit with conditions.

Dude, Trump had already pulled over 10,000 troops, leaving very few left to effectively do anything. The guy is now trying to say you evacuate all Americans first, some other shit, then BOMB the bases to smithereens, then remove all the troops. Hilarious considering how few there were left and that, you know, they'd be standing around a demolished base wondering where the planes are going to land.

And let's not forget those are NATO installations, not United States military bases, so you can't just bomb them as you please.

And let's not forget that the current Taliban leader was in a Pakistan prison...until Trump bargained for his release.

All I know is that HELL didn’t break loose under Trump. American lives and Afghani allies were not being slaughtered like they are now. The Taliban has complete control and access to all the weapons left behind (which they will sell to Russia or China).

I assume you mean the media didn't make a big deal about the nearly 10,000 bombs Trump ordered on Afghanistan each year of his presidency, killing countless civilians, because no one over here gives a shit about people over there until it can be used as political leverage, like you're all doing now. But yeah, Biden takes some blame here. This monster wasn't created by him, however.

Eyesore wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

I'm a moderate. I dislike them all, which is why I find all of this so funny.

Do you support Biden’s decisions?

Support how? Am I blaming him for Afghanistan? Meh. He botched some of it, but so did Trump and those who came before him. This is a multi-president, multi-party, decades long fuck-up.

Exactly what did Trump botch on Afghanistan? It was George Bush that sent us there, and we’ve been there ever since. All Trump did was plan an exit with conditions.

Dude, Trump had already pulled over 10,000 troops, leaving very few left to effectively do anything. The guy is now trying to say you evacuate all Americans first, some other shit, then BOMB the bases to smithereens, then remove all the troops. Hilarious considering how few there were left and that, you know, they'd be standing around a demolished base wondering where the planes are going to land.

And let's not forget those are NATO installations, not United States military bases, so you can't just bomb them as you please.

And let's not forget that the current Taliban leader was in a Pakistan prison...until Trump bargained for his release.

All I know is that HELL didn’t break loose under Trump. American lives and Afghani allies were not being slaughtered like they are now. The Taliban has complete control and access to all the weapons left behind (which they will sell to Russia or China).

I assume you mean the media didn't make a big deal about the nearly 10,000 bombs Trump ordered on Afghanistan each year of his presidency, killing countless civilians, because no one over here gives a shit about people over there until it can be used as political leverage, like you're all doing now. But yeah, Biden takes some blame here. This monster wasn't created by him, however.

And just like clockwork…

It’s like you didn’t even read what we said.

Eyesore wrote:

James B. wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

There is no sense in having a discussion with you guys. You literally never address the topic and instead just do the whole "Yeah, but what about" Obama or Clinton or Biden or whatever. It's just utterly pointless.

Says the guy who entered the topic by saying "what about Trump"

I asked you some questions, not to point a finger at anyone in particular. Just to find out your opinion on those particular points and/or any reason why you think it happened.  Ya know, that proverbial pursuit of dialogue.
(IMHDO) all pertinent to Afghanistan, past, present, and future.

The topic of this thread is "46" not Trump.
So who is actually staying on the topic at hand

That wasn't the same thing. That was pointing out YOUR hypocrisy, not using it as a way to deflect.

Dude, you’re confused (like Biden). Is that the sympathetic correlation? Common bond?

You are literally doing the same as what you accuse. “Rules for thee, but not for me”…

Eyesore wrote:

But yeah, Biden takes some blame here. This monster wasn't created by him, however.

In other words… he didn’t build the gun, he just pulled the trigger.

Troublezone wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

I'm a moderate. I dislike them all, which is why I find all of this so funny.

Do you support Biden’s decisions?

Support how? Am I blaming him for Afghanistan? Meh. He botched some of it, but so did Trump and those who came before him. This is a multi-president, multi-party, decades long fuck-up.

Exactly what did Trump botch on Afghanistan? It was George Bush that sent us there, and we’ve been there ever since. All Trump did was plan an exit with conditions.

Dude, Trump had already pulled over 10,000 troops, leaving very few left to effectively do anything. The guy is now trying to say you evacuate all Americans first, some other shit, then BOMB the bases to smithereens, then remove all the troops. Hilarious considering how few there were left and that, you know, they'd be standing around a demolished base wondering where the planes are going to land.

And let's not forget those are NATO installations, not United States military bases, so you can't just bomb them as you please.

And let's not forget that the current Taliban leader was in a Pakistan prison...until Trump bargained for his release.

All I know is that HELL didn’t break loose under Trump. American lives and Afghani allies were not being slaughtered like they are now. The Taliban has complete control and access to all the weapons left behind (which they will sell to Russia or China).

I assume you mean the media didn't make a big deal about the nearly 10,000 bombs Trump ordered on Afghanistan each year of his presidency, killing countless civilians, because no one over here gives a shit about people over there until it can be used as political leverage, like you're all doing now. But yeah, Biden takes some blame here. This monster wasn't created by him, however.

And just like clockwork…

It’s like you didn’t even read what we said.

It is not the same. I never said you can't bring up other presidents, past administrations, etc. I'm pointing out the hilarity of you guys completely ignoring everything Trump does and has done, everything that someone counters with that puts Trump in a negative light, and so forth. You just sidestep it and go, "But what about Obama?" "What about Killary?"

Am I doing that? Nope. You think I am because in your eyes anti-Trump equates to pro-Biden, which it does not.

Troublezone wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

But yeah, Biden takes some blame here. This monster wasn't created by him, however.

In other words… he didn’t build the gun, he just pulled the trigger.

Ain't that a conveniently pedestrian and flagrantly inaccurate way of putting it.

Eyesore wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

I'm a moderate. I dislike them all, which is why I find all of this so funny.

Do you support Biden’s decisions?

Support how? Am I blaming him for Afghanistan? Meh. He botched some of it, but so did Trump and those who came before him. This is a multi-president, multi-party, decades long fuck-up.

Exactly what did Trump botch on Afghanistan? It was George Bush that sent us there, and we’ve been there ever since. All Trump did was plan an exit with conditions.

Dude, Trump had already pulled over 10,000 troops, leaving very few left to effectively do anything. The guy is now trying to say you evacuate all Americans first, some other shit, then BOMB the bases to smithereens, then remove all the troops. Hilarious considering how few there were left and that, you know, they'd be standing around a demolished base wondering where the planes are going to land.

And let's not forget those are NATO installations, not United States military bases, so you can't just bomb them as you please.

And let's not forget that the current Taliban leader was in a Pakistan prison...until Trump bargained for his release.

All I know is that HELL didn’t break loose under Trump. American lives and Afghani allies were not being slaughtered like they are now. The Taliban has complete control and access to all the weapons left behind (which they will sell to Russia or China).

I assume you mean the media didn't make a big deal about the nearly 10,000 bombs Trump ordered on Afghanistan each year of his presidency, killing countless civilians, because no one over here gives a shit about people over there until it can be used as political leverage, like you're all doing now. But yeah, Biden takes some blame here. This monster wasn't created by him, however.

And just like clockwork…

It’s like you didn’t even read what we said.

It is not the same. I never said you can't bring up other presidents, past administrations, etc. I'm pointing out the hilarity of you guys completely ignoring everything Trump does and has done, everything that someone counters with that puts Trump in a negative light, and so forth. You just sidestep it and go, "But what about Obama?" "What about Killary?"

Am I doing that? Nope. You think I am because in your eyes anti-Trump equates to pro-Biden, which it does not.

I don’t agree with everything Trump has said or done, but you are getting your news most likely from the lockstep anti-Trump MSM. How do you know everything you have heard is accurate reporting? No other president has been treated as unfair as him, ever. To say the MSM is biased is an understatement. Just seeing them overlook Biden’s fuckups is glaring proof! Biden should be mocked way worse for his obvious cognitive impairment. But no… Jen Psaki and the Dems make excuses or completely turn a blind eye. Especially the globalist billionaires that own the mass media. They cherry pick the news to fit a narrative. Usually anti-anything that is conservative. Everything is racist. Guns are to blame (not mental illness). Churches are punished, but Obama can have a birthday party without masks…

Eyesore wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

But yeah, Biden takes some blame here. This monster wasn't created by him, however.

In other words… he didn’t build the gun, he just pulled the trigger.

Ain't that a conveniently pedestrian and flagrantly inaccurate way of putting it.

Switch out Trump instead of Biden… all of a sudden you agree.

Troublezone wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

I'm a moderate. I dislike them all, which is why I find all of this so funny.

Do you support Biden’s decisions?

Support how? Am I blaming him for Afghanistan? Meh. He botched some of it, but so did Trump and those who came before him. This is a multi-president, multi-party, decades long fuck-up.

Exactly what did Trump botch on Afghanistan? It was George Bush that sent us there, and we’ve been there ever since. All Trump did was plan an exit with conditions.

Dude, Trump had already pulled over 10,000 troops, leaving very few left to effectively do anything. The guy is now trying to say you evacuate all Americans first, some other shit, then BOMB the bases to smithereens, then remove all the troops. Hilarious considering how few there were left and that, you know, they'd be standing around a demolished base wondering where the planes are going to land.

And let's not forget those are NATO installations, not United States military bases, so you can't just bomb them as you please.

And let's not forget that the current Taliban leader was in a Pakistan prison...until Trump bargained for his release.

All I know is that HELL didn’t break loose under Trump. American lives and Afghani allies were not being slaughtered like they are now. The Taliban has complete control and access to all the weapons left behind (which they will sell to Russia or China).

I assume you mean the media didn't make a big deal about the nearly 10,000 bombs Trump ordered on Afghanistan each year of his presidency, killing countless civilians, because no one over here gives a shit about people over there until it can be used as political leverage, like you're all doing now. But yeah, Biden takes some blame here. This monster wasn't created by him, however.

And just like clockwork…

It’s like you didn’t even read what we said.

It is not the same. I never said you can't bring up other presidents, past administrations, etc. I'm pointing out the hilarity of you guys completely ignoring everything Trump does and has done, everything that someone counters with that puts Trump in a negative light, and so forth. You just sidestep it and go, "But what about Obama?" "What about Killary?"

Am I doing that? Nope. You think I am because in your eyes anti-Trump equates to pro-Biden, which it does not.

I don’t agree with everything Trump has said or done, but you are getting your news most likely from the lockstep anti-Trump MSM. How do you know everything you have heard is accurate reporting? No other president has been treated as unfair as him, ever. To say the MSM is biased is an understatement. Just seeing them overlook Biden’s fuckups is glaring proof! Biden should be mocked way worse for his obvious cognitive impairment. But no… Jen Psaki and the Dems make excuses or completely turn a blind eye. Especially the globalist billionaires that own the mass media. They cherry pick the news to fit a narrative. Usually anti-anything that is conservative. Everything is racist. Guns are to blame (not mental illness). Churches are punished, but Obama can have a birthday party without masks…

Precisely what I'm getting at. Not agreeing with everything Trump has said or done is far different from calling him out, condemning all the bullshit he's said and done, etc. Let me guess, you think the attempted insurrection was anti-fa, right? Crap like that. You believe Biden is a pedophile based on LITERALLY nothing but doctored footage and lies while ignoring a loooooooooooong history of sexual predation from Trump, as well as a ridiculous amount of sexual comments directed at his daughter.

And cognitive impairment? Holy crap! The relentless idiocy that has come from Trump and his entire four-year reign is almost incomprehensible! But sure, get a guy like Biden who's terrible on the mic and holy shit he must be borderline retarded, right?

Eh. Whatever.

For the record, I get my news from all kinds of places, liberal and conservative. MSM is not one of them, though. When it comes to Trump, though, you just gotta listen to him. Today he says one thing, tomorrow he says another, the next day he denies he said both, despite it being on camera. The guy is a crook and a clown, always has been. My opinion is based on his own actions over a lifetime and has nothing to do with any kind of liberal media. FYI.

Biden can suck it as well.

In what universe is Trump anywhere near as cognitively impaired as Biden?? Is this the Twilight Zone?  

Talk about doctored lies… when did Trump ever say anything other than to “March peacefully” to protest the obvious irregularities of the election. Twitter censored and erased everything he said. CNN and other networks edited his words to leave out the “peaceful” part. Whoever entered the WH did it on their own accord. I’ve see footage of police or security waving people in. Pelosi is a snake that took advantage of the situation. Trump offered to send help before January 6, and Pelosi and the other snakes turned him down. Why? Look how understaffed they were. They knew shit could go down with the fringe groups. Don’t tell me you didn’t see the Antifa guy on camera bragging about how “they did it”! They infiltrated the WH!

But yeah… let’s believe the narrative of corrupt CNN. The whack jobs that are/were burning down Portland, Seattle and Minneapolis would never go in the WH. It’s absolutely impossible they could mingle among them dressed differently.

The bottom line is that it shouldn’t have happened. But Pelosi is responsible for not securing the WH with enough law enforcement or national guard troops on a day like Jan 6!

Btw…
Do you have an irrevocable proof that Trump committed any predatory crimes? Or are you condemning him based on your opinions and perception?

So tiring. Just the same round and round nonsense over and over again. Have fun, boys.

Thanks for the open discourse!

At least we have that here.


Vaya con Dios, bruh!

Sorry. Just tedious.

In this world, tediousness is guaranteed.

I actually prefer that we’re not all robots.

Eyesore wrote:

That wasn't the same thing. That was pointing out YOUR hypocrisy, not using it as a way to deflect.

So in a thread started by ME, bashing 46 (Biden)  then YOU bring up Trump  and I'm deflecting.  That is a pretty big stretch Ken. So  it's okay for you to do "what about-isms" and point out double standards (hypocrisy)  Yet others can't respond to you in a similar manner.WTF

I can admit that I am an idiot, what is your excuse?

James B. wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

That wasn't the same thing. That was pointing out YOUR hypocrisy, not using it as a way to deflect.

So in a thread started by ME, bashing 46 (Biden)  then YOU bring up Trump  and I'm deflecting.  That is a pretty big stretch Ken. So  it's okay for you to do "what about-isms" and point out double standards (hypocrisy)  Yet others can't respond to you in a similar manner.WTF

I can admit that I am an idiot, what is your excuse?

But that was never my point. I will criticize those on both sides, you guys won't. If anyone points a finger at Trump, for instance, you guys shout, "BUT OBAMA!" or whatever, totally ignoring very valid criticisms and even straight up facts. That is my point.

Eyesore wrote:

James B. wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

That wasn't the same thing. That was pointing out YOUR hypocrisy, not using it as a way to deflect.

So in a thread started by ME, bashing 46 (Biden)  then YOU bring up Trump  and I'm deflecting.  That is a pretty big stretch Ken. So  it's okay for you to do "what about-isms" and point out double standards (hypocrisy)  Yet others can't respond to you in a similar manner.WTF

I can admit that I am an idiot, what is your excuse?

But that was never my point. I will criticize those on both sides, you guys won't. If anyone points a finger at Trump, for instance, you guys shout, "BUT OBAMA!" or whatever, totally ignoring very valid criticisms and even straight up facts. That is my point.

To be fair… I really haven’t heard you criticize Biden yet, other than the slightly tongue in cheek “Biden can suck it too”.

Eyesore wrote:

But that was never my point. I will criticize those on both sides, you guys won't. If anyone points a finger at Trump, for instance, you guys shout, "BUT OBAMA!" or whatever, totally ignoring very valid criticisms and even straight up facts. That is my point.

You must have missed a lot of my posts over the years. The Federal Government is nothing but a bunch of liars and thieves, regardless of political party affiliation.

Trump has done tons of thing s that pissed me off. He also kept a lot of campaign promises, despite political and media opposition during his Presidency. That means something to me.

Pointing out valid criticism and straight up facts is ALWAYS going to be your perspective of those particular aspects, regardless of the topic/subject.. Some will agree, others won't, people look at EVERYTHING differently. The thing that makes the world great.

In the end...

Whatever Ken thinks of Trump being a pedo is his opinion.
Whatever I think of Biden being a kid diddler is my opinion and of course, allegedly.

I want evidence of Trump saying things about his daughter. I'm not aware of this. Is this another left-wing lie/out of context thing?

Speaking of kids. Trump raised some very thoughtful, intelligent well-adjusted children. That's not an accident. Idiots don't raise good kids. The left ignores this completely.

Anyone else read the transcript of the phone call between Biden & Ghani?

What Biden knew and what he said to the press was total opposite!

No wonder Facebook "accidentally" deleted a post by the mother of one of the 13 Marines killed by the suicide bomber regarding her conversation with Biden at Dover AFB.

A suicide bomber allegedly tracked by our military for 13 minutes by drone and never getting the kill order.

James B. wrote:

Anyone else read the transcript of the phone call between Biden & Ghani?

What Biden knew and what he said to the press was total opposite!

No wonder Facebook "accidentally" deleted a post by the mother of one of the 13 Marines killed by the suicide bomber regarding her conversation with Biden at Dover AFB.

A suicide bomber allegedly tracked by our military for 13 minutes by drone and never getting the kill order.

I didn’t read the transcript, but I already knew that this administration is corrupt, deadly and treasonous. This is one of the darkest periods in the history of this country.

I gotta get one of these...

I found this amusing

https://www.wpxi.com/news/top-stories/biden-says-he-visited-tree-life-after-shooting-synagogue-says-visit-never-happened/RAKIAY44YBC7HEYPVZFAKJZUIY/