Judas Priest-Jugulator

Why is this album so disliked among Priest fans? Even though Halford's not singing, it still has that Priest "sound", and Burn In Hell, Bullet Train, and Cathedral Spires are classics IMO. I didnt care much for Decapitate or Abductors, but otherwise i find it a fine album that gets a bad rap for not having Halford on vocals (despite Ripper doing an excellent job).

I think the vocals are fine and I like "Bullet Train," "Cathedral Spires," and "Blood Stained." Other than that, the songs just aren't very good. Most seem to have goofy, overlong intros and corny lyrics. Not that Priest lyrics aren't normally corny, but these "heavier than thou," spooky lyrics are dumb. I think Halford's songwriting contribution was probably more significant than previously thought. Ripper was really good, but KK and Glenn dropped the ball when it came to the songwriting on the album.

I didn't hate this record. Demolition on the other hand I thought was awful.

Wichfinder, I could not have said it any better. There are some classic tunes, the aforementioned . Burn, Bullet, and Cathedral, and Ripper sounds great as always. But, the lyrics are terrible! Like a bunch of High School kids trying to sound tough, but sounding really immature.

I think it's excellent. Maybe the lyrics can be a bit silly, but I couldn't care less. The overall product is superb and diminishes any shortcomings.

Very good. Heavy as hell. But still, it is not a regular player for me.

Nothing can replace the perfection of painkiller.

I just got done listening to most of the album. The album is lyrically challenged, there's no doubt about it. Having said that, I really like the guitars on this album. I much prefer 70's and early 80's Priest, but I think a comeback album with an unknown vocalist at the time in Ripper, it could have been a lot worse. Plus, I hated much of the music back in the late 90's.

Great Songs: Cathedral Spires, Burn In Hell, Bullet Train
Good Songs: Abductors
Average Songs: Dead Meat, Brain Dead, Blood Stained

It's my third fave by them so there's that.

Bullet Train and Cathedral Spires are both excellent songs. I'd love to hear them with Rob's vocals (not hanging shit on Ripper, just curious as to how the tracks would sound).

I thought we just had this conversation not long ago...

https://heartofmetal.niceboard.com/t22698-re-exploring-jugulator?highlight=jugulator

nevermore wrote:

I didn't hate this record. Demolition on the other hand I thought was awful.

I just checked that album out on Spotify last night. I really liked Jekyll and Hyde, and Close To You was ok as well. Everything else was either annoying or bland at best.

MetalGuy71 wrote:

I thought we just had this conversation not long ago...

http://www.heartofmetal.net/t22698-re-exploring-jugulator?highlight=jugulator

That's what I was thinking. I was like, "I thought I was watching this topic? I could have sworn I didn't see a reply update in my e-mail."

Best album Priest ever recorded IMO.. Heavy, melodic, groove, YES PLZ!

I love Judgulator. It's not among their best, but it's not a bad album. Cathedral Spires and Bullet Train are both killer! I would love to hear them resurrect those two songs with Halford singing them.

Oh and I have a friend that thinks it's the best album they ever recorded. I definitely don't agree with that but like I said, I do love it.

I love Jugulator. I don't know if it's hated. It's just very different. More modern, "brutal" sounding Priest, so obviously it's going to put off a bunch of older fans.

By the way, I love both Decapitate and Abduction. Blood Stained is the song I don't like on the album. I usually have to skip it. But everything else on that disc is amazing.

underrated album

The negative talk against this album bewilders me. Every song is good or great. It's got the same heavy metal vibe as Painkiller--not nearly as intense, but still very very strong. Lyrics? Lyrics are stupid in heavy metal across the board. I can't let poeticism get in the way of my enjoyment of the music. And besides, these lyrics trump the stupidity of songs like Parental Guidance by miles. They may be the Spalding Gray of all things quasi-diabolical, but at least the music delivers as punch along with the ferocious vocal work.

But the cover art is shit haha. So was the follow-up.

The cover art was amazing but they zoomed in and pixelated it.

Temple of Blood wrote:

The cover art was amazing but they zoomed in and pixelated it.

Maybe that was it, then. I never thought anything ill of the 'creature,' just the quality and framing of it all. It's pretty nasty (not in a good way).

EDIT: Just saw the original art; yeah that's much much better sans the logo redesign. Why the hell did they alter it for release??

Walmart wouldn't carry it with that cover and they are the number 1 retailer in the world.

Wtf Walmart. There's nothing at all offensive about the original. Unless I'm looking at the wrong cap.

The cover was considered too gory, violent not necessarily offensive.

Temple of Blood wrote:

The cover was considered too gory, violent not necessarily offensive.

Really, that is where I bought my copy as a new release

Wait... Am I looking at the right original cover? Is it just a zoom out on the image they used anyway?

Always wondered why the art was so pixelated and crap.