Subject: Metal songs that tried to be beautiful and moving but were actually not? Sat Sep 12, 2015 11:02 pm
Can anyone name any metal songs that wanted to be pretty but sucked? I can think of a few:
Arcade, "When I'm Gone" (from their second album A/2) Winger, "Rainbow in the Rose" (disgusting power ballad that supposedly took four years to write)
Boris2008 Metal is Forever
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Subject: Re: Metal songs that tried to be beautiful and moving but were actually not? Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:43 am
Any Motley Crue ballad ever
TheGreatDuck Metal master
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Subject: Re: Metal songs that tried to be beautiful and moving but were actually not? Sun Sep 13, 2015 10:06 am
Journey - Open Arms Poison - Every Rose REO Speedwagon - Can't Fight This Feeling
Vexer6 Heart of Metal
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Subject: Re: Metal songs that tried to be beautiful and moving but were actually not? Mon Sep 14, 2015 3:17 pm
Judas Priest-Beyond the Realms of Death Scorpions-Send Me An Angel Motley Crue-Home Sweet Home Mr Big-To Be With You Any Stryper ballad.
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Subject: Re: Metal songs that tried to be beautiful and moving but were actually not? Mon Sep 14, 2015 3:25 pm
I would say that most of the time if a song "TRIES" to be beautiful or moving it comes across as ham-fisted and calculated. Beauty happens more naturally when it happens accidentally.
Temple of Blood Metal is Forever
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Subject: Re: Metal songs that tried to be beautiful and moving but were actually not? Mon Sep 14, 2015 3:45 pm
muckie wrote:
Winger, "Rainbow in the Rose" (disgusting power ballad that supposedly took four years to write)
hahahaha
corplhicks Metal is Forever
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Subject: Re: Metal songs that tried to be beautiful and moving but were actually not? Mon Sep 14, 2015 4:05 pm
Judas Priest can't write a ballad to save their life.
Temple of Blood Metal is Forever
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Subject: Re: Metal songs that tried to be beautiful and moving but were actually not? Mon Sep 14, 2015 4:20 pm
corplhicks wrote:
Judas Priest can't write a ballad to save their life.
You don't even like Before the Dawn?
Witchfinder Metal is Forever
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Subject: Re: Metal songs that tried to be beautiful and moving but were actually not? Mon Sep 14, 2015 4:29 pm
On what planet is "Beyond The Realms of Death" not a classic? Baffling.
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Subject: Re: Metal songs that tried to be beautiful and moving but were actually not? Mon Sep 14, 2015 4:36 pm
Black Sabbath/Pantera - Planet Caravan. Man, do I hate that song.
Witchfinder Metal is Forever
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Subject: Re: Metal songs that tried to be beautiful and moving but were actually not? Mon Sep 14, 2015 4:42 pm
UNCLE SAXON'S KICKASS CDS wrote:
Black Sabbath/Pantera - Planet Caravan. Man, do I hate that song.
Blasphemy!
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Subject: Re: Metal songs that tried to be beautiful and moving but were actually not? Mon Sep 14, 2015 4:43 pm
UNCLE SAXON'S KICKASS CDS wrote:
Black Sabbath/Pantera - Planet Caravan. Man, do I hate that song.
Pantera can go suck a big one...but the original is a classic tune that shows off some of Iommi's jazz chops.
UNCLE SAXON'S KICKASS CDS Metal is in my blood
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Subject: Re: Metal songs that tried to be beautiful and moving but were actually not? Mon Sep 14, 2015 4:53 pm
Deal with it, Children of the Grave.....
corplhicks Metal is Forever
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Subject: Re: Metal songs that tried to be beautiful and moving but were actually not? Mon Sep 14, 2015 8:27 pm
Beyond the Realms of Death and Before the Dawn bore me to death. Trust me, I've tried through the ages. I often skip them.
Planet Caravan is majestic!
Runicen Heart of Metal
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Subject: Re: Metal songs that tried to be beautiful and moving but were actually not? Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:22 am
I'll just paint with a broad brush and say, "Any song attempting to recapture a previous song in a band's back catalog that was actually beautiful and moving."
I'm looking at you, Metallica. The Unforgiven was great. STOP MAKING SEQUELS TO IT!
Gonna throw out any song that references lyrics from a particularly poignant past song in a band's catalog as well. Every once in a while, this can be pulled off with some craft and grace, but most of the time you just cringe.
MetalGuy71 Bukkake Tsunami
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Subject: Re: Metal songs that tried to be beautiful and moving but were actually not? Tue Sep 15, 2015 5:01 pm
S.D. wrote:
I would say that most of the time if a song "TRIES" to be beautiful or moving it comes across as ham-fisted and calculated. Beauty happens more naturally when it happens accidentally.
Allot of the 80's hair-band era falls into that category. When it became standard operating procedure for every band to have a ballad, it kinda lost it's punch.
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the sentinel Metal is Forever
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Subject: Re: Metal songs that tried to be beautiful and moving but were actually not? Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:38 pm
Exactly. It became obligatory to have a ballad. I think that's what separates the "hair" bands from the other Metal bands in the eighties/ early nineties.
I know that "Beyond the Realms of Death" is a ballad b/c it tells a story; but I don't think Priest wrote it to be "beautiful" but rather "moving" as a song of someone who "had enough and couldn't take anymore."
And, by the way, it is a classic song!
assault_attack Metal master
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Subject: Re: Metal songs that tried to be beautiful and moving but were actually not? Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:48 pm
"Beyond The Realms of Death" Hell this a great if for no other reason then Rob's vocals from 6:40 on..
TheGreatDuck Metal master
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Subject: Re: Metal songs that tried to be beautiful and moving but were actually not? Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:12 pm
Vexer6 wrote:
Judas Priest-Beyond the Realms of Death
UNCLE SAXON'S KICKASS CDS wrote:
Black Sabbath/Pantera - Planet Caravan. Man, do I hate that song.
Still can't top that one review of SWOD that called Dreamer Deceiver the worst song on the album and a lame power ballad.
stormspell Heart of Metal
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Subject: Re: Metal songs that tried to be beautiful and moving but were actually not? Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:17 pm
muckie wrote:
Winger, "Rainbow in the Rose" (disgusting power ballad that supposedly took four years to write)
If you remove the last two minutes of Reb's pointless wankery, it becomes a very decent tune. But on a whole In the Heart of the Young is very lukewarm and overrated album, to that I'd agree.
the sentinel Metal is Forever
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Subject: Re: Metal songs that tried to be beautiful and moving but were actually not? Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:31 pm
I like the outro solo on Headed for a Heartbreak, but I agree that it's overblown on Rainbow in the Rose.
the sentinel Metal is Forever
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Subject: Re: Metal songs that tried to be beautiful and moving but were actually not? Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:06 pm
Steeler's "Serenade" is, in my opine, absolutely dreadful.
007 Metal is my Life
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Subject: Re: Metal songs that tried to be beautiful and moving but were actually not? Wed Sep 16, 2015 11:19 am
the sentinel wrote:
Steeler's "Serenade" is, in my opine, absolutely dreadful.
Yeah that is rather bad. Keel's vocals sound awfully flat in that one.
DakotaRogers Metal master
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Subject: Re: Metal songs that tried to be beautiful and moving but were actually not? Wed Sep 16, 2015 12:52 pm
Silent Lucidity by Queensrÿche
To this day, I cannot explain the mass appeal of this song. The very idea that someone out there (let alone millions) finds this song catchy or memorable in any way is unfathomable.
It's not that I'm completely unreceptive to power ballads, this song is just pure unadulterated cringe. The guitars suck, the vocals suck, and the lyrics suck, especially; and there's no semblance of a hook anywhere in sight.
Mind you, this is coming from a fan of "Empire" and the 'Rÿche in general.
MetalGuy71 Bukkake Tsunami
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Subject: Re: Metal songs that tried to be beautiful and moving but were actually not? Wed Sep 16, 2015 2:07 pm
It had an appeal outside of the usual metal/hard rock crowd. I remember being in college at the time of it's release and a girl I knew fell in love with the song, buying the cassette single and playing it over and over again. She had no idea who Queensryche was or any knowledge of rock or metal. She was a square as they come. We called her Olive Oyl behind her back because of a strong resemblance. Sweet gal though. Heck of an artist.
That has nothing to do really with your post Dakota. Just a random memory related to that song.
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