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Eyesore
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PostSubject: Re: All things Metallica   All things Metallica - Page 9 Icon_minitimeThu Aug 18, 2016 9:36 pm

Decent song, but lacking what once made Metallica great: hooks. Vocal, guitar, bass, whatever; their albums used to be loaded with hooks. After Load and Reload, though, those all but disappeared.

I dig the artwork.
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PostSubject: Re: All things Metallica   All things Metallica - Page 9 Icon_minitimeThu Aug 18, 2016 10:51 pm

Boris2008 wrote:
Like the cover
Like the song (although not blown away)
James hasn't written a lyric worth a damn in decades but he is getting worse.

Yea, that sums it up pretty nicely for me too. Thanks for saving me the time having to come up with my own opinion, Boris.

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PostSubject: Re: All things Metallica   All things Metallica - Page 9 Icon_minitimeFri Aug 19, 2016 8:47 am

New song isn't too bad. Best I've heard out of them since the Justice album.They may have some life left in them after all.
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Here's a little more info for those that can't be bothered to click on a link...

METALLICA will release its long-awaited new album, "Hardwired…To Self-Destruct", on November 18 via Blackened Recordings.

"Hardwired…To Self-Destruct" is available for pre-order at Metallica.com starting today in various configurations, including CD, vinyl, digital, deluxe, and deluxe deluxe versions. The album is produced by Greg Fidelman, who engineered and mixed "Death Magnetic".

"Hardwired" will be delivered as an instant download to fans who preorder the album.

Disc One

01. Hardwired
02. Atlas, Rise!
03. Now That We're Dead
04. Moth Into Flame
05. Am I Savage?
06. Halo On Fire

Disc Two

01. Confusion
02. Dream No More
03. ManUNkind
04. Here Comes Revenge
05. Murder One
06. Spit Out The Bone

Disc Three (Deluxe Edition Only)

01. Lords Of Summer
02. Riff Charge (Riff Origins)
03. N.W.O.B.H.M. A.T.M. (Riff Origins)
04. Tin Shot (Riff Origins)
05. Plow (Riff Origins)
06. Sawblade (Riff Origins)
07. RIP (Riff Origins)
08. Lima (Riff Origins)
09. 91 (Riff Origins)
10. MTO (Riff Origins)
11. RL72 (Riff Origins)
12. Frankenstein (Riff Origins)
13. CHI (Riff Origins)
14. X Dust (Riff Origins)

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PostSubject: Re: All things Metallica   All things Metallica - Page 9 Icon_minitimeFri Aug 19, 2016 10:14 am

What on earth is that third disc (Riff Origins)?
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PostSubject: Re: All things Metallica   All things Metallica - Page 9 Icon_minitimeFri Aug 19, 2016 10:15 am

007 wrote:
What on earth is that third disc (Riff Origins)?

I'm wondering that myself. Instrumental demos?

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PostSubject: Re: All things Metallica   All things Metallica - Page 9 Icon_minitimeFri Aug 19, 2016 10:19 am

MetalGuy71 wrote:
007 wrote:
What on earth is that third disc (Riff Origins)?

I'm wondering that myself. Instrumental demos?


Could be. That makes sense.
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PostSubject: Re: All things Metallica   All things Metallica - Page 9 Icon_minitimeFri Aug 19, 2016 12:07 pm

Song was good. I'm prefer the Mustaine stuff and post TBA material so this was good to me although I found the solo to be typical Kirk it just ended awkwardly.
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PostSubject: Re: All things Metallica   All things Metallica - Page 9 Icon_minitimeFri Aug 19, 2016 12:35 pm

I heard the new song. Sounded better than Death Magnetic. Video was awful with unfocused, epilepsy-inducing fast cuts. Almost as annoying as videos with super slow motion.

If you're gonna do a band performance video for a gritty thrash song, the simpler the better - smoke, giant amps and normal speed camera shots. It works.
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PostSubject: Re: All things Metallica   All things Metallica - Page 9 Icon_minitimeFri Aug 19, 2016 5:26 pm

akeldama wrote:
Song was good. I'm prefer the Mustaine stuff and post TBA material so this was good to me although I found the solo to be typical Kirk it just ended awkwardly.

I dunno, that dude has been happily and lazily stuck in pentatonic meedly-meedly mode his entire career.
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PostSubject: Re: All things Metallica   All things Metallica - Page 9 Icon_minitimeFri Aug 19, 2016 6:10 pm

corplhicks wrote:
akeldama wrote:
Song was good. I'm prefer the Mustaine stuff and post TBA material so this was good to me although I found the solo to be typical Kirk it just ended awkwardly.

I dunno, that dude has been happily and lazily stuck in pentatonic meedly-meedly mode his entire career.
I don't think he's lazy at all.
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PostSubject: Re: All things Metallica   All things Metallica - Page 9 Icon_minitimeFri Aug 19, 2016 7:25 pm

Vexer6 wrote:
corplhicks wrote:
akeldama wrote:
Song was good. I'm prefer the Mustaine stuff and post TBA material so this was good to me although I found the solo to be typical Kirk it just ended awkwardly.

I dunno, that dude has been happily and lazily stuck in pentatonic meedly-meedly mode his entire career.
I don't think he's lazy at all.

It's not that he himself is lazy, but his approach to technique is. I've played through every one of his solos up through the Black album and it's the same thing every time: boxed pents, constant whammy slams, sixteenth triplets that aren't always very well articulated. He actually plays more like a blues man. Mustaine at least pulls out some jazz stops and multi-faceted dynamics here and there (on top of having virtuosos taking most of the lead responsibilities).

But that's not necessarily a complaint on my end. I think it's actually charming, and I admire his confidence in not indulging in advancing his vocabulary (i.e. Tipton-Downing). All his noodling, basic at it is, has somehow added character to the band's music. But I have become very indifferent to his musical presence in the past 15 years.
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PostSubject: Re: All things Metallica   All things Metallica - Page 9 Icon_minitimeFri Aug 19, 2016 7:39 pm

corplhicks wrote:
Vexer6 wrote:
corplhicks wrote:
akeldama wrote:
Song was good. I'm prefer the Mustaine stuff and post TBA material so this was good to me although I found the solo to be typical Kirk it just ended awkwardly.

I dunno, that dude has been happily and lazily stuck in pentatonic meedly-meedly mode his entire career.
I don't think he's lazy at all.

It's not that he himself is lazy, but his approach to technique is. I've played through every one of his solos up through the Black album and it's the same thing every time: boxed pents, constant whammy slams, sixteenth triplets that aren't always very well articulated. He actually plays more like a blues man. Mustaine at least pulls out some jazz stops and multi-faceted dynamics here and there (on top of having virtuosos taking most of the lead responsibilities).

But that's not necessarily a complaint on my end. I think it's actually charming, and I admire his confidence in not indulging in advancing his vocabulary (i.e. Tipton-Downing). All his noodling, basic at it is, has somehow added character to the band's music. But I have become very indifferent to his musical presence in the past 15 years.
Well i'm not a music expert so maybe that's why it seems fine to me.
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PostSubject: Re: All things Metallica   All things Metallica - Page 9 Icon_minitimeFri Aug 19, 2016 8:56 pm

Vexer6 wrote:
corplhicks wrote:
Vexer6 wrote:
corplhicks wrote:
akeldama wrote:
Song was good. I'm prefer the Mustaine stuff and post TBA material so this was good to me although I found the solo to be typical Kirk it just ended awkwardly.

I dunno, that dude has been happily and lazily stuck in pentatonic meedly-meedly mode his entire career.
I don't think he's lazy at all.

It's not that he himself is lazy, but his approach to technique is. I've played through every one of his solos up through the Black album and it's the same thing every time: boxed pents, constant whammy slams, sixteenth triplets that aren't always very well articulated. He actually plays more like a blues man. Mustaine at least pulls out some jazz stops and multi-faceted dynamics here and there (on top of having virtuosos taking most of the lead responsibilities).

But that's not necessarily a complaint on my end. I think it's actually charming, and I admire his confidence in not indulging in advancing his vocabulary (i.e. Tipton-Downing). All his noodling, basic at it is, has somehow added character to the band's music. But I have become very indifferent to his musical presence in the past 15 years.
Well i'm not a music expert so maybe that's why it seems fine to me.

I have to agree, Hicks. I found his style suited the Load/ReLoad era a lot more and thought he had some good stuff sprawled throughout like on "Devil's Dance". In fact, the solo intended for "Sweet Amber" gave that song an extra sense of grasping desperation.
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PostSubject: Re: All things Metallica   All things Metallica - Page 9 Icon_minitimeFri Aug 19, 2016 9:04 pm

The song is ok
The whole thing though feels like the band is running after Iron Maiden "If they can release a 2CD album and make it a hit, we can do!" just like everything they did after Justice for all, they are turning into the metal version of Kiss: following trends instead of creating them.
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PostSubject: Re: All things Metallica   All things Metallica - Page 9 Icon_minitimeFri Aug 19, 2016 9:07 pm

I just hope this album isn't shrouded in redundancy like most of their catalogue.
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PostSubject: Re: All things Metallica   All things Metallica - Page 9 Icon_minitimeFri Aug 19, 2016 9:15 pm

ShadowAngel wrote:
The song is ok
The whole thing though feels like the band is running after Iron Maiden "If they can release a 2CD album and make it a hit, we can do!" just like everything they did after Justice for all, they are turning into the metal version of Kiss: following trends instead of creating them.
I don't see doing a 2CD album automatically means they are following in Maiden's footsteps, 2CD albums in general are becoming more common now.
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PostSubject: Re: All things Metallica   All things Metallica - Page 9 Icon_minitimeSat Aug 20, 2016 12:06 am

Okay, who stole Kirk's wah-wah pedal?
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Gilbert
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PostSubject: Re: All things Metallica   All things Metallica - Page 9 Icon_minitimeSat Aug 20, 2016 1:06 am

Song is really good. At least compared to what they gave us in the past few years. Hope the rest of the album thrashes as well.

But this cover art...Oh dear Lord...
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PostSubject: Re: All things Metallica   All things Metallica - Page 9 Icon_minitimeSat Aug 20, 2016 9:54 am

The chorus is beyond juvenile, the main riff lackluster. They sound generic and lifeless to me,like a band going through the motions.They're better off doing the whole Black Album/Load/Reload style. At least it was honest and from the heart unlike this corporate dad-rock that sounds phoned in and out of original ideas.
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PostSubject: Re: All things Metallica   All things Metallica - Page 9 Icon_minitimeSat Aug 20, 2016 10:18 am

Second listen. Song is getting better and better.
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PostSubject: Re: All things Metallica   All things Metallica - Page 9 Icon_minitimeSat Aug 20, 2016 12:09 pm

John Madden wrote:
The chorus is beyond juvenile, the main riff lackluster. They sound generic and lifeless to me,like a band going through the motions.They're better off doing the whole Black Album/Load/Reload style. At least it was honest and from the heart unlike this corporate dad-rock that sounds phoned in and out of original ideas.
I strongly disagree, this dosen't sound anything remotely like "corporate rock"(WTF does that term even mean?), I didn't feel Load or Re-Load were particularly honest albums at all. To me with those albums it felt like the band was jumping headfirst onto the alternative rock bandwagon, with this song it sounds like they are going back to their roots.
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PostSubject: Re: All things Metallica   All things Metallica - Page 9 Icon_minitimeSat Aug 20, 2016 4:45 pm

Gilbert wrote:
Second listen. Song is getting better and better.

That's how I feel too. I'm not bothered about thrash or not but this thing sounds great! Just straight ahead and muscular in a way that they haven't sounded in a long time, even the drums sound fine.

I'm hoping for Master of Puppets meets Death Magnetic and this is the Damage Inc type song (hopeful I know)
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PostSubject: Re: All things Metallica   All things Metallica - Page 9 Icon_minitimeSat Aug 20, 2016 5:22 pm

I liked the tune, was not blown away, honestly at this point in their career as long as they make a decent album, I am more then happy, I am not looking for them to write 'Masters II' at this point.
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manny wrote:
I liked the tune, was not blown away, honestly at this point in their career as long as they make a decent album, I am more then happy, I am not looking for them to write 'Masters II' at this point.

Me either, but Metallica is my achilles heel. I always hope for a return to greatness and I'm always disappointed Sad
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