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Chairman_Smith Heart of Metal
Number of posts : 1636 Age : 37
| Subject: Disney Says No To Heavy Metal Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:10 am | |
| Heavy metal acts moved off Disney properties
By Greg Burk, Special to The Times
September 15, 2007
Metal detectors may soon be irrelevant at House of Blues clubs, at least any sitting on property owned by the Walt Disney Co. Five heavy-metal concerts scheduled on Disney property in Anaheim and Orlando have been hastily shifted to other venues or canceled recently, according to House of Blues website calendars.
A Sept. 7 show featuring Machine Head, Arch Enemy, Throwdown and Sanctity, booked two months earlier, was moved on two days' notice from the House of Blues in Anaheim's Downtown Disney entertainment complex to the Glass House in Pomona. Thursday's concert with Cannibal Corpse, The Black Dahlia Murder, The Red Chord and The Abscence, originally slated for Anaheim House of Blues, was moved to the Galaxy Theatre in Santa Ana. A Sept. 26 Anaheim House of Blues concert featuring Obituary, Alabama Thunderpussy, Full Blown Chaos and Hemlock has been canceled outright.
At the House of Blues in Orlando, Fla., on Disney World property, a Sept. 17 concert of the Machine Head lineup has been moved to Club Firestone in downtown Orlando. The same action has been taken with the Oct. 11 Cannibal Corpse package.
Asked about the scheduling changes, John Vlautin, vice president of communications for Live Nation (formerly Clear Channel), the concert-promotion organization that owns the nationwide House of Blues chain, issued a statement Thursday that said only: "House of Blues offers a range of entertainment to match the audience at our venues. It was determined that the mix of entertainment at our two Disney locations should be different from our other venues."
Vlautin declined to comment on why metal bands have been singled out after years of similar bookings or whether other metal events already scheduled, including Suffocation, Edguy and Static X, will be affected.
Rob Doughty, communications vice president for Disneyland Resorts, declined to comment, referring inquiries to Vlautin. Paul McGuigan, concert promoter at the Anaheim House of Blues, also declined to comment through a club spokeswoman.
The Walt Disney Co., through Vlautin, issued a short statement Thursday that included no specifics about the shifts of the metal concerts: "In consultation with Walt Disney Parks and Resorts, the House of Blues will provide a mix of entertainment for guests visiting Disney Resorts."
Robb Flynn, vocalist and guitarist of Machine Head, expressed surprise about the venue change, saying in a phone interview that the group had played both clubs several times without incident. He said he had been told that Disney pressured House of Blues to evict metal on the grounds that it attracted an "undesirable" element; he also said he suspects that "one of the main issues of contention Disney had with Machine Head was our antiwar and anti-administration lyrics."
A sample lyric from the Bay Area quartet's current recording, "The Blackening," goes, "Murder us, silence us, / Divide and conquer us."
The veteran Cannibal Corpse, which headlines the touring Metal Blade Records bill that was removed from the Anaheim and Orlando House of Blues calendars, is known for its extreme album-cover artwork and death-obsessed lyrics such as "Pray to our God / With blood we praise his epic acts of hate," from last year's "Kill" collection. Many modern metal bands express an antiwar, anti-authority and/or anti-religion message.
John Halperin, talen booker for the Glass House, said Friday that the Machine Head show transferred to his venue came off to the satisfaction of bands and fans, despite the fact that it is an all-ages club where no alcohol is sold. | |
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ultmetal Administrator
Number of posts : 19452 Age : 57
| Subject: Re: Disney Says No To Heavy Metal Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:18 am | |
| Well that sucks.
I think Robb Flynn is playing martyr though. I doubt it has anything specifically to do with his "anti-war and anti-administration lyrics". I could be wrong, but it sounds like he is reading more into than is really there. I would believe that Disney thinks metal bands attract a crowd they don't want at their venues. Perhaps they would do better getting in some gangsta rap bands. _________________ ULTIMATUM - TOO METAL FOR WIKIPEDIA!
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Fat Freddy Metal, Movies, Beer
Number of posts : 37954 Age : 54
| Subject: Re: Disney Says No To Heavy Metal Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:19 am | |
| Mickey doesn't want his Mouseketeers to mosh?? | |
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MetalGuy71 Bukkake Tsunami
Number of posts : 25557 Age : 53
| Subject: Re: Disney Says No To Heavy Metal Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:24 am | |
| It may not be the popular opinion, but I have no problem with this. I've known people that work for the Disney company and they have a strict set of rules and standards. It's their rules, their establishment. If you don't like it, go somewhere else. Disney has the right to deny or cancel anything which they find objectionable or in contrast to the standards they have set. It's unfortunate for fans that already purchased tickets, but the show was moved and the concert was performed.
I think where the problem could lie is if the Disney Corp is inconsistant with their standards. It has to be the same across the board, no matter if it's a metal act, a rap act, or even a comedy show. They can set the level to whatever they want, it's their perogitive, but they have to be consistent. And people just have to accept that and move along.
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Chairman_Smith Heart of Metal
Number of posts : 1636 Age : 37
| Subject: Re: Disney Says No To Heavy Metal Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:24 am | |
| - ultmetal wrote:
- Well that sucks.
I think Robb Flynn is playing martyr though. I doubt it has anything specifically to do with his "anti-war and anti-administration lyrics". I could be wrong, but it sounds like he is reading more into than is really there. I would believe that Disney thinks metal bands attract a crowd they don't want at their venues. Perhaps they would do better getting in some gangsta rap bands. The guys on the Megadeth forums are all saying that they heard that ALL metal acts will be banned. Kinda disappointing, since that excellent Halford bootleg was recorded at the HOB. | |
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| Subject: Re: Disney Says No To Heavy Metal Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:25 am | |
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Temple of Blood Metal is Forever
Number of posts : 5704 Age : 49
| Subject: Re: Disney Says No To Heavy Metal Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:25 am | |
| - MetalGuy71 wrote:
- It may not be the popular opinion, but I have no problem with this. I've known people that work for the Disney company and they have a strict set of rules and standards. It's their rules, their establishment. If you don't like it, go somewhere else. Disney has the right to deny or cancel anything which they find objectionable or in contrast to the standards they have set. It's unfortunate for fans that already purchased tickets, but the show was moved and the concert was performed.
Exactly. Not to mention that those bands aren't that great anyway. | |
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mc666 Master Sailboat
Number of posts : 9301 Age : 45
| Subject: Re: Disney Says No To Heavy Metal Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:27 am | |
| - MetalGuy71 wrote:
- Disney has the right to deny or cancel anything which they find objectionable or in contrast to the standards they have set.
i agree. _________________ | |
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T-Roy Metal is in my blood
Number of posts : 4077 Age : 51
| Subject: Re: Disney Says No To Heavy Metal Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:35 am | |
| I fine that disgustingly hypocritical what with developing and releasing some new sex-pop icon every year. | |
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ultmetal Administrator
Number of posts : 19452 Age : 57
| Subject: Re: Disney Says No To Heavy Metal Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:36 am | |
| - mc666 wrote:
- MetalGuy71 wrote:
- Disney has the right to deny or cancel anything which they find objectionable or in contrast to the standards they have set.
i agree. So do I. Someone won't see it that way though. I can see law suites being dreamed up right now. | |
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kmorg Metal is my Life
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| Subject: Re: Disney Says No To Heavy Metal Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:38 am | |
| Disney and metal is like kindergarden and ganger rap. _________________ | |
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T-Roy Metal is in my blood
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| Subject: Re: Disney Says No To Heavy Metal Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:42 am | |
| I know Disney has a right, but I'd like to argue that's just discrimination. Fair enough I maybe wouldn't have someone like Darkthrone playing near a childrens theme park, but Machine Head (although I'm not a fan) aren't exactly singing about eating babies, but companies like Disney seem to like applying such stereotypes |
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| Subject: Re: Disney Says No To Heavy Metal Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:44 am | |
| Anyone remember in the mid-90's Disney's Hollywood records was signing bands like ICP, Danzig, and the Dead Milkmen? They got a bunch of conservative flack for it, sold ICP's contract to another company, and shelved any others bands that were remotely non-conserative then refused to give those bands the rights to albums back (until they got sued by some of them anyway)? |
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mc666 Master Sailboat
Number of posts : 9301 Age : 45
| Subject: Re: Disney Says No To Heavy Metal Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:48 am | |
| - Dimedude23 wrote:
- Fair enough I maybe wouldn't have someone like Darkthrone playing near a childrens theme park
i guess that Darkthrone/Hilary Duff tour i've been dreaming about will never happen. _________________ | |
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Chairman_Smith Heart of Metal
Number of posts : 1636 Age : 37
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MetalGuy71 Bukkake Tsunami
Number of posts : 25557 Age : 53
| Subject: Re: Disney Says No To Heavy Metal Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:49 am | |
| - mc666 wrote:
- Dimedude23 wrote:
- Fair enough I maybe wouldn't have someone like Darkthrone playing near a childrens theme park
i guess that Darkthrone/Hilary Duff tour i've been dreaming about will never happen. It's still a possibility, just not at the House of Blues. | |
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Fat Freddy Metal, Movies, Beer
Number of posts : 37954 Age : 54
| Subject: Re: Disney Says No To Heavy Metal Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:53 am | |
| - firestar wrote:
- Anyone remember in the mid-90's Disney's Hollywood records was signing bands like ICP, Danzig, and the Dead Milkmen? They got a bunch of conservative flack for it, sold ICP's contract to another company, and shelved any others bands that were remotely non-conserative then refused to give those bands the rights to albums back (until they got sued by some of them anyway)?
Yea, they had The Dead Milkmen and Sacred Reich on Hollywood too. Sacred Reich got dumped REAL quick after the promo department sent out Sacred Reich water pipes/bongs to a bunch of critics to promote their CD too! I guess Mickey didn't want any part of such unsavory activities. | |
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Fat Freddy Metal, Movies, Beer
Number of posts : 37954 Age : 54
| Subject: Re: Disney Says No To Heavy Metal Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:55 am | |
| - mc666 wrote:
- i guess that Darkthrone/Hilary Duff tour i've been dreaming about will never happen.
I'd pay to see that. Or a black metal version of "High School Musical" | |
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Chairman_Smith Heart of Metal
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T-Roy Metal is in my blood
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| Subject: Re: Disney Says No To Heavy Metal Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:14 pm | |
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Chairman_Smith Heart of Metal
Number of posts : 1636 Age : 37
| Subject: Re: Disney Says No To Heavy Metal Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:16 pm | |
| - T-Roy wrote:
- oh please indulge?!
One of the lead stars took nudie pictures of herself, and they got leaked all over the internets, much to her embarssment. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Disney Says No To Heavy Metal Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:17 pm | |
| - Chairman_Smith wrote:
Speaking of High School Musical.... so........ erm... how bout that.... erm.... controversy...... you know.... All I have to say is the internet is an amazing tool.
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Required Fields Metal is my Life
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| Subject: Re: Disney Says No To Heavy Metal Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:19 pm | |
| I wonder if the same will happen to rap and punk, as well as other "non-conformist" types of music. Besides, the "concerned parent"/PMRC types who despise all metal music (no exceptions) with a rabid vengeance are vehemently opposed to rap and punk as well. | |
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DallasBlack Zooey Addict
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| Subject: Re: Disney Says No To Heavy Metal Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:25 pm | |
| I agree that Disney has the right, but it just sounds too hypocritical, after all this is the same Disney that is going to allow homosexual marriages be held at their theme parks. Two dudes kissing each other is OK, but metal is immoral and a bad influence? | |
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