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PostSubject: New Vocalists   New Vocalists Icon_minitimeWed Sep 12, 2007 6:26 pm

Except for Dream Theater changing from Dominici to LaBrie or Iron Maiden changing from DiAnno to Dickinson, most people tend to be turned off by bands switching volcalists. Whether I'ts Van Halen, Black Sabbath, later Maiden, Judas Priest, or recently Iced Earth longtime fans turn away from those bands. Is there any other bands except the first two I mentioned in which people liked the cange in vocalists? I for one have never been too picky on that as long as the music is still good.
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PostSubject: Re: New Vocalists   New Vocalists Icon_minitimeWed Sep 12, 2007 6:34 pm

I think Michael Kiske replacing Kai Hansen and Andi Deris replacing Michael Kiske were all very good changes for Helloween.
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PostSubject: Re: New Vocalists   New Vocalists Icon_minitimeWed Sep 12, 2007 7:09 pm

spectrefate wrote:
I think Michael Kiske replacing Kai Hansen and Andi Deris replacing Michael Kiske were all very good changes for Helloween.

Good point :idea: I can't believe I forgot about that one!
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PostSubject: Re: New Vocalists   New Vocalists Icon_minitimeWed Sep 12, 2007 7:52 pm

spectrefate wrote:
I think Michael Kiske replacing Kai Hansen and Andi Deris replacing Michael Kiske were all very good changes for Helloween.
Very good example.
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PostSubject: Re: New Vocalists   New Vocalists Icon_minitimeWed Sep 12, 2007 10:05 pm

pretty much any Sabbath singer after Ozzy
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PostSubject: Re: New Vocalists   New Vocalists Icon_minitimeThu Sep 13, 2007 1:37 am

the Dio-era Sabbath material is highly regarded. also, Van Halen was very successful with Hagar.

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PostSubject: Re: New Vocalists   New Vocalists Icon_minitimeThu Sep 13, 2007 3:29 am

mc666 wrote:
the Dio-era Sabbath material is highly regarded. also, Van Halen was very successful with Hagar.

That is true but when Ozzy left Sabbath and when Hagar took the vocal spot in Van Halen, a lot of longtime fans hated the changes and stopped listening to them (remember the term Van Hagar?). By the way, I prefer Dio over Ozzy and I also was a big fan of Hagar era Van Halen.
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PostSubject: Re: New Vocalists   New Vocalists Icon_minitimeThu Sep 13, 2007 3:49 am

people like Deris better than Kiske? From what I have heard he butchers the old Keepers tunes.
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PostSubject: Re: New Vocalists   New Vocalists Icon_minitimeThu Sep 13, 2007 9:20 am

Temple of Blood wrote:
people like Deris better than Kiske? From what I have heard he butchers the old Keepers tunes.

The Andi Deris era is my favorite Helloween stuff! Although I've never heard him sing any of the old Keepers-era stuff (I've never seen Helloween live, though I would love to!) but except for KEEPER PART I, I was never really big on the Kiske era. Of course, they whole band, Kiske included, sounded phenomenal on Keeper Part I, but things started to get a little weird on Part II, it got really silly by PINK BUBBLES and when CHAMELEON came out I just wanted Kiske gone! I know he can't be totally blamed for the quality (or lack thereof) of those last couple of records but he certainly didn't help things.

I also find it funny how nowadays whenever Kiske releases new solo stuff he's like "It's NOT metal! I hate metal!" but he expects his old fans to lap it up anyway. Then when it doesn't sell he goes on the Internet and rants about how metal fans are all stupid because they don't understand him.
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PostSubject: Re: New Vocalists   New Vocalists Icon_minitimeThu Sep 13, 2007 9:44 am

Zetro replacing Baloff
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PostSubject: Re: New Vocalists   New Vocalists Icon_minitimeThu Sep 13, 2007 9:52 am

I couldn't stand ACDC untill Brian Johnson, then suddenly, I loved them.....no really, I LOVE them.
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PostSubject: Re: New Vocalists   New Vocalists Icon_minitimeThu Sep 13, 2007 9:55 am

Although no they haven't been around very long, DiMeo was a fitting replacement for Lande and for those who know them, I believe that Borknagar was improved greatly with the switch to Vintersorg.
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PostSubject: Re: New Vocalists   New Vocalists Icon_minitimeThu Sep 13, 2007 9:58 am

A more obscure one. When the christian band Saint regrouped after a lengthy abscence, they did not have fan favorite Josh Kramer behind the mic. I think the new guy was named Lamberson. The EP Perfect Life came out and was terrible, and not well received. Luckily they were later rejoined with Josh Kramer to produce the awesome discs In The Battle and The Mark.
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PostSubject: Re: New Vocalists   New Vocalists Icon_minitimeThu Sep 13, 2007 10:05 am

thrasher73 wrote:
Zetro replacing Baloff
i certainly wasn't happy about that

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PostSubject: Re: New Vocalists   New Vocalists Icon_minitimeThu Sep 13, 2007 10:08 am

DallasBlack wrote:
Although no they haven't been around very long, DiMeo was a fitting replacement for Lande and for those who know them, I believe that Borknagar was improved greatly with the switch to Vintersorg.

I assume you are talking about Masterplan? Haven't heard them with DiMeo yet. But he was awesome while he was in Riot.
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PostSubject: Re: New Vocalists   New Vocalists Icon_minitimeThu Sep 13, 2007 10:15 am

Temple of Blood wrote:
people like Deris better than Kiske? From what I have heard he butchers the old Keepers tunes.

When I saw them, Deris was perfect on the older stuff, even going back to Walls of Jericho. He did all eras flawlessly.
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PostSubject: Re: New Vocalists   New Vocalists Icon_minitimeThu Sep 13, 2007 10:30 am

Ron replacing Don in Dark Angel.
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PostSubject: Re: New Vocalists   New Vocalists Icon_minitimeThu Sep 13, 2007 10:32 am

When Halford was doing his TWO crap i was pleased with Ripper being in Priest.
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PostSubject: Re: New Vocalists   New Vocalists Icon_minitimeThu Sep 13, 2007 11:25 am

mc666 wrote:
thrasher73 wrote:
Zetro replacing Baloff
i certainly wasn't happy about that

yeah,but everyone else was:lol:
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PostSubject: Re: New Vocalists   New Vocalists Icon_minitimeThu Sep 13, 2007 11:35 am

Izzy replacing Bobby Beers Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: New Vocalists   New Vocalists Icon_minitimeThu Sep 13, 2007 11:37 am

Chairman_Smith wrote:
Izzy replacing Bobby Beers Laughing

lol! Good One.Love that movie
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PostSubject: Re: New Vocalists   New Vocalists Icon_minitimeThu Sep 13, 2007 11:40 am

thrasher73 wrote:
Chairman_Smith wrote:
Izzy replacing Bobby Beers Laughing

lol! Good One.Love that movie

I need to buy that soundtrack!
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PostSubject: Re: New Vocalists   New Vocalists Icon_minitimeThu Sep 13, 2007 11:46 am

When ult replaced Robert Gutierrez as vocalist in Ultimatum's infancy may be seen as a wise choice. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: New Vocalists   New Vocalists Icon_minitimeThu Sep 13, 2007 11:55 am

Black Sabbath replacing Ozzy with Ronnie James Dio is the first that comes to mind.
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PostSubject: Re: New Vocalists   New Vocalists Icon_minitimeThu Sep 13, 2007 11:59 am

John Bush in Anthrax (I loved the Reunion too tho! Two lead vocalists plzthx.)
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