Kiske-era or Deris-era?

Thanks for the recommendations Orion.  

Deris for me...no contest. Better Than Raw, The Dark Ride, & Rabbit Don't Come Easy are their tri-fecta imo. The Dark Ride being their greatest.

mc666 wrote:

Deris for me...no contest. Better Than Raw, The Dark Ride, & Rabbit Don't Come Easy are their tri-fecta imo. The Dark Ride being their greatest.

My favorite is Better Than Raw. I think The Dark Ride, while great, is overrated. I just don't get why so many people think that album is their best.

Then again, I know a lot of people who think Better Than Raw is kinda poopy, so what the hell do I know?

Tastes. Pffft!

Temple of Blood wrote:

Thanks for the recommendations Orion.  

Didn't like any of the suggested tbh. Mindnight Sun is decent. Anyway, the only Deris song I really do like is this.


It's not Deris' voice I have problem with, it's their music as a whole.

I honestly don't know how you can have a Helloween conversation and completely ignore this album.

It's like having a favorite metal album poll and leaving off Black Sabbath!

Eyesore wrote:

mc666 wrote:

Deris for me...no contest. Better Than Raw, The Dark Ride, & Rabbit Don't Come Easy are their tri-fecta imo. The Dark Ride being their greatest.

My favorite is Better Than Raw. I think The Dark Ride, while great, is overrated. I just don't get why so many people think that album is their best.

Then again, I know a lot of people who think Better Than Raw is kinda poopy, so what the hell do I know?

Tastes. Pffft!

my favorite is Master of the Rings. That album is such a melodic gem. I also think Dark Ride, Gambling are very good. I went with Deris because i think overall his material is stronger.

This is my favorite Deris track :
 
 
 
 
 

Eyesore wrote:

I understand how influential they are, but that doesn't necessarily mean later albums can't be better albums. I think a lot of people have a difficult time separating the two. They will never release a more influential pair of albums, but they have released a ton of better albums. Hell, I think Keeper III blows the first two away.

well said.

Eyesore wrote:

mc666 wrote:

Deris for me...no contest. Better Than Raw, The Dark Ride, & Rabbit Don't Come Easy are their tri-fecta imo. The Dark Ride being their greatest.

My favorite is Better Than Raw. I think The Dark Ride, while great, is overrated. I just don't get why so many people think that album is their best.

Then again, I know a lot of people who think Better Than Raw is kinda poopy, so what the hell do I know?

Tastes. Pffft!

Nothing poopy about Better than Raw. It's a superb record!

The intro and "Push" are amazing. And then it's just classic Helloween song after classic Helloween song. "Hey Lord", "Midnight Sun", "Revelation". Just perfection.

"Falling Higher" is one of my personal favourite metal anthems, and a top ten Helloween track.

I think it was my favourite Deris-era Helloween album until Gambling with the Devil came out.

One I rarely see talked about is Time Of the Oath. The first five songs on that slay with Wake Up the Mountain being a powerhouse of a song.

Today I plan on exploring more of the Deris catalog.

Time of the Oath is another monster record. Mission Motherland is epic.

If Master of the Rings essentially screamed out "we are back", then in the same way Time of the Oath said they are still THE BEST at what they do.

Yessir.

Boris2008 wrote:

I honestly don't know how you can have a Helloween conversation and completely ignore this album.

It's like having a favorite metal album poll and leaving off Black Sabbath!

Sure, that makes sense...if you want to change the entire point of the thread.

Lari wrote:

Time of the Oath is another monster record. Mission Motherland is epic.

If Master of the Rings essentially screamed out "we are back", then in the same way Time of the Oath said they are still THE BEST at what they do.

Time of the Oath is a fantastic album. "Wake Up the Mountain" is one of my top five Helloween tunes!

What is the point of this thread then? The OP stated that he was just starting to get into Helloween and was asking if people prefered the Kiske or Deris era, is it such a leap outside of the spirit of the thread to suggest that he should not discount the era that laid the foundations for what would become the classic Helloween sound. Is that really changing the point of the entire thread? It's not like I said F**k you, I prefer sausages!!

Boris2008 wrote:

Is that really changing the point of the entire thread? It's not like I said F**k you, I prefer sausages!!

 

Boris2008 wrote:

What is the point of this thread then? The OP stated that he was just starting to get into Helloween and was asking if people prefered the Kiske or Deris era, is it such a leap outside of the spirit of the thread to suggest that he should not discount the era that laid the foundations for what would become the classic Helloween sound. Is that really changing the point of the entire thread? It's not like I said F**k you, I prefer sausages!!

I love sausages. They're tasty.

MetallicSeminarian wrote:

Boris2008 wrote:

What is the point of this thread then? The OP stated that he was just starting to get into Helloween and was asking if people prefered the Kiske or Deris era, is it such a leap outside of the spirit of the thread to suggest that he should not discount the era that laid the foundations for what would become the classic Helloween sound. Is that really changing the point of the entire thread? It's not like I said F**k you, I prefer sausages!!

I love sausages. They're tasty.

We've got the power, we are divine
We have the guts to follow the sign

MetallicSeminarian wrote:

Boris2008 wrote:

What is the point of this thread then? The OP stated that he was just starting to get into Helloween and was asking if people prefered the Kiske or Deris era, is it such a leap outside of the spirit of the thread to suggest that he should not discount the era that laid the foundations for what would become the classic Helloween sound. Is that really changing the point of the entire thread? It's not like I said F**k you, I prefer sausages!!

I love sausages. They're tasty.

F*ck you, I like bacon!!

corplhicks wrote:

MetallicSeminarian wrote:

Boris2008 wrote:

What is the point of this thread then? The OP stated that he was just starting to get into Helloween and was asking if people prefered the Kiske or Deris era, is it such a leap outside of the spirit of the thread to suggest that he should not discount the era that laid the foundations for what would become the classic Helloween sound. Is that really changing the point of the entire thread? It's not like I said F**k you, I prefer sausages!!

I love sausages. They're tasty.

F*ck you, I like bacon!!

People, people, you can love both! I do!

See what you made me do Eyesore! Now I HAVE changed the entire point of the thread!!  

MetallicSeminarian wrote:

corplhicks wrote:

MetallicSeminarian wrote:

Boris2008 wrote:

What is the point of this thread then? The OP stated that he was just starting to get into Helloween and was asking if people prefered the Kiske or Deris era, is it such a leap outside of the spirit of the thread to suggest that he should not discount the era that laid the foundations for what would become the classic Helloween sound. Is that really changing the point of the entire thread? It's not like I said F**k you, I prefer sausages!!

I love sausages. They're tasty.

F*ck you, I like bacon!!

People, people, you can love both! I do!

HERETIC! You speak of darkness.

Boris2008 wrote:

See what you made me do Eyesore! Now I HAVE changed the entire point of the thread!!  

So you like Kai's sausage better, is that what you're saying?

Eyesore wrote:

Boris2008 wrote:

See what you made me do Eyesore! Now I HAVE changed the entire point of the thread!!  

So you like Kai's sausage better, is that what you're saying?

Maybe!