Subject: Instrumental tracks on albums, a lost art of the 80s? Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:12 pm
I remember back in the day every album used to have a ballad and/or instrumental track. It was pretty much a standard for the 80s heavy/power/speed metal. I wonder what happened and why and when this was dropped...
chewie Metal is Forever
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Subject: Re: Instrumental tracks on albums, a lost art of the 80s? Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:23 pm
I miss little interludes like Rik Emmett used to do on Triumph albums.
EmoElmo Metal master
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Subject: Re: Instrumental tracks on albums, a lost art of the 80s? Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:10 am
Oh Rik Emmett, the dude that EVH became famous for
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Subject: Re: Instrumental tracks on albums, a lost art of the 80s? Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:20 am
EmoElmo wrote:
Oh Rik Emmett, the dude that EVH became famous for
What are you talking about?
mc666 Master Sailboat
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Subject: Re: Instrumental tracks on albums, a lost art of the 80s? Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:45 am
there are lots of bands still do instrumentals. intros, outros, interludes, full songs, all that. i can't really speak for modern power/speed/trad metal, but it's still a thing in death metal.
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Subject: Re: Instrumental tracks on albums, a lost art of the 80s? Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:50 am
Instrumentals are still common in modern prog rock, of course that is expected.
metalken Metal master
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Subject: Re: Instrumental tracks on albums, a lost art of the 80s? Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:02 am
I will second that instrumental tracks have not really been heard of lately in the heavy/power/speed metal releases in the last little while. Can't really say when they seemed to lose favour with bands. Losfer Words & Switch 625 are probably my favourite instrumentals from way back when.
jettafiend Heart of Metal
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Subject: Re: Instrumental tracks on albums, a lost art of the 80s? Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:39 am
Dialectic Chaos off of Endgame comes to mind as a recent instrumental. Then there is Mutamitlu from The Mechanics of Perilous Times.
BearOnUnicycle Heart of Metal
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Subject: Re: Instrumental tracks on albums, a lost art of the 80s? Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:16 am
I usually skip them anyway. Very few are good enough as intors/outros. Like "Initiation" or "Send Me A Sign" on Keepers. As a recent intro, Sabaton made it on "Carolus Rex". And Enforcer with their instrumental "Diamonds"
metalhead777 Metal master
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Subject: Re: Instrumental tracks on albums, a lost art of the 80s? Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:34 am
Dan Johansen is a fairly under rated instrumental artist in my opinion.
Temple of Blood Metal is Forever
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Subject: Re: Instrumental tracks on albums, a lost art of the 80s? Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:36 am
People only care about vocals! It is 90% of what they talk about in album reviews! Even in bands whose focal point is not vocals, like NILE or VIO-LENCE.
Orion Crystal Ice Metal is in my blood
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Subject: Re: Instrumental tracks on albums, a lost art of the 80s? Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:53 am
what irks me is that people will care about vocals, which is fine, but not lyrics (unless they suggest something Christian).....
I think there have been some good ones in the last decade..
major favorite..
Obviously....
also very good.
this one is slower, has some great shades of Satriani.
For me though, I'm not sure if Skyliner would ever do a full instrumental, although there's plenty of extended middle sections in the regular songs...(every song is like 7 minutes).. I just have a lot of stuff to write and I usually have some words that have to be married with a specific killer riff.
chewie Metal is Forever
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Subject: Re: Instrumental tracks on albums, a lost art of the 80s? Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:45 am
Duh! I was listening to Warp Riders last night and it starts off with a killer instrumental on both side A and B.
chewie Metal is Forever
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Subject: Re: Instrumental tracks on albums, a lost art of the 80s? Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:56 am
Rik Emmett (in case you didn't know):
Dark Horseman Metal Wanker
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Subject: Re: Instrumental tracks on albums, a lost art of the 80s? Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:10 pm
Emmet was a master of those little classical parts in a song.
ultmetal Administrator
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Subject: Re: Instrumental tracks on albums, a lost art of the 80s? Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:32 pm
Ultimatum recorded instrumentals on our last two full-length studio albums. "Mutamitlu" and "Into the Pit"
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007 Metal is my Life
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Subject: Re: Instrumental tracks on albums, a lost art of the 80s? Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:48 pm
chewie wrote:
I miss little interludes like Rik Emmett used to do on Triumph albums.
Yes ! Emmett was/is fantastic !
jettafiend Heart of Metal
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Subject: Re: Instrumental tracks on albums, a lost art of the 80s? Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:26 pm
ultmetal wrote:
Ultimatum recorded instrumentals on our last two full-length studio albums. "Mutamitlu" and "Into the Pit"
I totally forgot about "Into the Pit"
jettafiend Heart of Metal
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Subject: Re: Instrumental tracks on albums, a lost art of the 80s? Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:32 pm
Orion Crystal Ice wrote:
what irks me is that people will care about vocals, which is fine, but not lyrics (unless they suggest something Christian).....
I care about the lyrical content quite a bit and the vocal style, not as much but it still matters. There are some bands out there that have great lyrics but the vocalist is so bad or generic that the album is hard to listen to. The Guardian albums before Jamie Rowe come to mind as an uninspired vocalist with great lyrics.
Another example is Ultimatum. I heard a few clips on youtube and thought "wow, these guys suck!" but then I got a sampler off of Untombed.net that had "Mortal Stomp" on it. I played that track countless times and the unique style of Scott's voice has really grown on me (I actually bought several of the albums represented on that sampler). Ultimatum was a slow grower because of the vocals but the lyrics brought me back for another listen, and then it all clicked as a complete package.
Eyesore Metal is my Life
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Subject: Re: Instrumental tracks on albums, a lost art of the 80s? Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:09 pm
S.D. wrote:
EmoElmo wrote:
Oh Rik Emmett, the dude that EVH became famous for
What are you talking about?
I think this same thing after nearly everything this guy posts.
Anyway, I still see plenty of instrumental tracks out there. Not as many, maybe, but I think that's probably for the best. Far too many of those on old albums sounded half-assed, no heart.
Of course, I appreciate instrumentals more now that I'm older. Hell, I got Monkey3 jammin' right now and they do some great instrumentals. Check out this cover (which is what is playing now):
Fantastic!
snooloui Metal master
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Subject: Re: Instrumental tracks on albums, a lost art of the 80s? Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:20 pm
I think it's because there's a lot less emphasis on technical skill nowadays. Whilst being an amazing guitar player could make you rich and famous in the 80s, it will most likely get you a thousand Youtube subscribers instead right now.
EmoElmo Metal master
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Subject: Re: Instrumental tracks on albums, a lost art of the 80s? Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:25 pm
S.D. wrote:
EmoElmo wrote:
Oh Rik Emmett, the dude that EVH became famous for
What are you talking about?
EVH ripped-off Emmett...he has been doing the two-handed "Rock" tapping long before "Eruption" bacame popular
EvyMetal Baron Von 40oz.
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Subject: Re: Instrumental tracks on albums, a lost art of the 80s? Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:45 pm
A lot of the stuff I listen to is solely instrumental. It happens a lot in doom/sludge, post-rock, post-metal, atmospheric stuff.
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Subject: Re: Instrumental tracks on albums, a lost art of the 80s? Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:48 pm
EmoElmo wrote:
S.D. wrote:
EmoElmo wrote:
Oh Rik Emmett, the dude that EVH became famous for
What are you talking about?
EVH ripped-off Emmett...he has been doing the two-handed "Rock" tapping long before "Eruption" bacame popular
Other players had done that prior to Emmett, both Allan Holdsworth (who Eddie has stated was one of his major influences) and Steve Hackett for instance. Eddie refined it into something completely unique to him though, so I don't think he ripped off anyone. Eddie was trying to find a way to replicate violin style runs on the guitar.
Eyesore Metal is my Life
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Subject: Re: Instrumental tracks on albums, a lost art of the 80s? Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:47 pm
EmoElmo wrote:
S.D. wrote:
EmoElmo wrote:
Oh Rik Emmett, the dude that EVH became famous for
What are you talking about?
EVH ripped-off Emmett...he has been doing the two-handed "Rock" tapping long before "Eruption" bacame popular
Seriously, dude? That technique was around before Emmett and EVH could even walk.
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