Geoff Tate

Think dude has been dippin into boxes of wine way too much (wine in a box....sounds classy)

Gives me an image of some old bald wino passed out in an alleyway of Seatle wearing an "American Soldier" tour shirt with barf covering 1/2 half of it and open boxes on one side of him and broken bottles of Insania on the other. The last half drunk bottle between his legs sticking up like a phallic and somebody had left a piece of cardboard with "F.U" wrote in black marks-o-lot.

That would be an epic album cover for the next Tate album. To bad he doesn't have a sense of humor about himself...

He's been riding his own douche comments for far too long. This guy should just shut the hell up!! The last few times I have seen Queensryche he has SUCKED and there is no life in what they were doing. Just like Geoff's new so called Queensryche album, no life or personality.

thejokeriv wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

Dude, what? He hasn't written a single song in his entire career!

No joke! He wrote LYRICS and some melodies, that's it. According to the rest of the band (court docs, interviews), DeGarmo came up with most of the vocal melodies (with help from Tate) which is easy to believe - just listen to the vocal melodies from any post-DeGarmo album.

Tate's been spouting that 81% stuff since he was fired.. along with "I was the creative force behind the band" crap.

Please, once Chris left and he shut down the rest of the guys, the "creative force" began pilfering Jason Slater's leftover demo archives to make Queensryche albums.

http://www.jason-slater.com/?page_id=73

"Not Long," an old Snake River Conspiracy demo, became "The Voice." "Art of Whore," another Snake River Conspiracy demo, became "Retail Therapy." Songs written for an alt-rock band with a female vocalist became Queensryche songs when Geoff wrote 81% of their catalog? Suuuuure. The demo "Serve," originally penned for another Slater project, became "Dare," so he's still raiding the Slater vault.

And there are no doubt plenty more. Did Tate also write these songs?

Lurideath wrote:

He's been riding his own douche comments for far too long. This guy should just shut the hell up!! The last few times I have seen Queensryche he has SUCKED and there is no life in what they were doing. Just like Geoff's new so called Queensryche album, no life or personality.

Eyesore wrote:

thejokeriv wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

Dude, what? He hasn't written a single song in his entire career!

No joke! He wrote LYRICS and some melodies, that's it. According to the rest of the band (court docs, interviews), DeGarmo came up with most of the vocal melodies (with help from Tate) which is easy to believe - just listen to the vocal melodies from any post-DeGarmo album.

Tate's been spouting that 81% stuff since he was fired.. along with "I was the creative force behind the band" crap.

Please, once Chris left and he shut down the rest of the guys, the "creative force" began pilfering Jason Slater's leftover demo archives to make Queensryche albums.

http://www.jason-slater.com/?page_id=73

"Not Long," an old Snake River Conspiracy demo, became "The Voice." "Art of Whore," another Snake River Conspiracy demo, became "Retail Therapy." Songs written for an alt-rock band with a female vocalist became Queensryche songs when Geoff wrote 81% of their catalog? Suuuuure. The demo "Serve," originally penned for another Slater project, became "Dare," so he's still raiding the Slater vault.

And there are no doubt plenty more. Did Tate also write these songs?

Good point.

But MYTH demos became QR songs too: Take Hold of the Flame, their heavy version of Scarborough Fair, etc.

Temple of Blood wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

thejokeriv wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

Dude, what? He hasn't written a single song in his entire career!

No joke! He wrote LYRICS and some melodies, that's it. According to the rest of the band (court docs, interviews), DeGarmo came up with most of the vocal melodies (with help from Tate) which is easy to believe - just listen to the vocal melodies from any post-DeGarmo album.

Tate's been spouting that 81% stuff since he was fired.. along with "I was the creative force behind the band" crap.

Please, once Chris left and he shut down the rest of the guys, the "creative force" began pilfering Jason Slater's leftover demo archives to make Queensryche albums.

http://www.jason-slater.com/?page_id=73

"Not Long," an old Snake River Conspiracy demo, became "The Voice." "Art of Whore," another Snake River Conspiracy demo, became "Retail Therapy." Songs written for an alt-rock band with a female vocalist became Queensryche songs when Geoff wrote 81% of their catalog? Suuuuure. The demo "Serve," originally penned for another Slater project, became "Dare," so he's still raiding the Slater vault.

And there are no doubt plenty more. Did Tate also write these songs?

Good point.

But MYTH demos became QR songs too: Take Hold of the Flame, their heavy version of Scarborough Fair, etc.

I won't argue over "Scarborough Fair," even though both versions are fairly different, but the other songs—"Before the Storm," "Take Hold of the Flame," and "Walk in the Shadows"—have nothing in common with the QR versions other than the titles. They're completely different songs.

Lyrics, melodies and creative direction IS a part of songwriting...but I do agree that Tate is overstating.

What he should be saying is "My name is on 81% of Queensryche writing credits because I was all up in there helping write the songs"...

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

Lyrics, melodies and creative direction IS a part of songwriting...but I do agree that Tate is overstating.

What he should be saying is "My name is on 81% of Queensryche writing credits because I was all up in there helping write the songs"...

This is true, but if someone else is coming up with the bulk of the vocal melodies, as many claim DeGarmo did, then his claim is even less valid.

I think both new albums will speak for themselves as to who did what.

Geoff defends the "FU"...

Quote :

He tells Jam: “It’s an abbreviation of the album title. It’s a metal thing. I’ve seen tens of thousands of fists punching the air at Queensryche shows. There is nothing out of the ordinary about it. I get criticised because I’m not metal enough – now I do an obvious metal album cover and I get criticised for that!”

Sure. Ok.

LOL, Queensrÿche used to stand for the opposite of a bunch of apes throwing up the finger and stuff like that you see in something like nu-metal. For what metal could and should be. What's he smoking?

Orion Crystal Ice wrote:

Queensrÿche used to stand for the opposite of a bunch of apes throwing up the finger and stuff like that

Yup...and it makes me sad what the name has become.

He's become pathetic. Shawn, nice shirt.

I had a dream last night that I was at a county fair and the headlining musical act was Geoff's QR.

On the video screens they showed the band backstage preparing for the show. For some reason they were all wearing white face paint with "Ball Masques" over them. They were sitting indian style on the floor in a big circle surrounding a fire pit and passing around a box of wine. Geoff was gesturing like a tribal leader. I couldn't hear what they were saying because only the video was being shown while the opening act played on the stage...

...which is the strangest part of the dream because the opening act was a Sammy Hagar impersonator who for some reason was doing a cover of Golden Earring's Twilight Zone.

Whatever I ate for dinner last night was a bad idea....

And TheGeoff now has the story for the next GeoffRÿche concept album.

Orion Crystal Ice wrote:

LOL, Queensrÿche used to stand for the opposite of a bunch of apes throwing up the finger and stuff like that you see in something like nu-metal. For what metal could and should be. What's he smoking?

Not smoking, but drinking too much of his Insania wine....

Quick question for anyone who may have purchased "Frequency Unknown" and then taken Cleopatra Records up on that "free remixed CD" offer...

When you e-mailed them your receipt/proof of purchase for the CD, did you get an e-mail back from them showing that your message was received? Cuz I didn't. I was expecting to at least get an automated response ("Thank you for your message") kinda thing, but...nope.

Fabulous customer service, I must say.

I'm just curious, cuz my friend asked me "Hey did you get your remix CD yet?" and I was like "Ummm...no." I had totally forgotten that I'd even contacted them about it. Haha. It's been about a week since I e-mailed them.

Fat Freddy wrote:

Quick question for anyone who may have purchased "Frequency Unknown" and then taken Cleopatra Records up on that "free remixed CD" offer...

When you e-mailed them your receipt/proof of purchase for the CD, did you get an e-mail back from them showing that your message was received? Cuz I didn't. I was expecting to at least get an automated response ("Thank you for your message") kinda thing, but...nope.

Fabulous customer service, I must say.

I'm just curious, cuz my friend asked me "Hey did you get your remix CD yet?" and I was like "Ummm...no." I had totally forgotten that I'd even contacted them about it. Haha. It's been about a week since I e-mailed them.

Call 'em:

Mailing Address:
CLEOPATRA RECORDS INC.
11041 Santa Monica Blvd PMB #703
Los Angeles CA 90025

Phone: (310) 477-4000

Fax: (310) 312-5653

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

Fat Freddy wrote:

Quick question for anyone who may have purchased "Frequency Unknown" and then taken Cleopatra Records up on that "free remixed CD" offer...

When you e-mailed them your receipt/proof of purchase for the CD, did you get an e-mail back from them showing that your message was received? Cuz I didn't. I was expecting to at least get an automated response ("Thank you for your message") kinda thing, but...nope.

Fabulous customer service, I must say.

I'm just curious, cuz my friend asked me "Hey did you get your remix CD yet?" and I was like "Ummm...no." I had totally forgotten that I'd even contacted them about it. Haha. It's been about a week since I e-mailed them.

Call 'em:

Mailing Address:
CLEOPATRA RECORDS INC.
11041 Santa Monica Blvd PMB #703
Los Angeles CA 90025

Phone: (310) 477-4000

Fax: (310) 312-5653

Shawn to the rescue with all the info!!

I'm not getting bent outta shape about it or anything, I was just idly curious. If I haven't gotten anything in the mail by the end of the week I might call'em. That could be interesting. "Put Geoff Tate on the phone dammit!"

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

Call 'em:

Mailing Address:
CLEOPATRA RECORDS INC.
11041 Santa Monica Blvd PMB #703
Los Angeles CA 90025

Phone: (310) 477-4000

Fax: (310) 312-5653

If they give you any crap I could always go over there and open up a can of whoop ass on your behalf.

Cleopatra Records ->

S.D. wrote:

If they give you any crap I could always go over there and open up a can of whoop ass on your behalf.

Cleopatra Records ->

If I call 'em and they haven't sent my CD yet, I'll tell 'em "my friend Shawn" will be coming by to pick one up on my behalf.

I think I just need to be more patient. I HATE waiting for stuff to come in the mail, I'm like Bart Simpson... "Lady, where's my spy camera? Where's my spy camera? WHERE IS MY SPY CAMERA?"

Years ago when I was doing a lot of CD trading through the mail, I used to drive my wife nuts...if I was waiting for something to come in the mail, I'd call her from work "Did I get any mail today? Did I get any mail today?" and if the answer was "no," I'd be all bummed out for the rest of the day. After a while she stopped taking my calls

I never got a email back either and got it like maybe a week later.

Phoenix Reign Drummer wrote:

I never got a email back either and got it like maybe a week later.

OK, thanx. Then I'll quit worrying about it.

...cuz I wasn't worried about it till my friend asked if I'd gotten the replacement disc, then my O.C.D. kicked into overdrive!! Haha.[b]

Did you get it yet?