Anybody remember seeing Kiss "perform" the song "I" on Solid Gold? Always thought it was scary having Kiss introduced by Dionne Warwick....
thejokeriv Metal is my Life
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Subject: Re: The Elder Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:04 pm
detuned wrote:
Anybody remember seeing Kiss "perform" the song "I" on Solid Gold? Always thought it was scary having Kiss introduced by Dionne Warwick....
Good to see you use the quotes! I remember it, saw it when it first aired...
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Subject: Re: The Elder Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:08 pm
detuned wrote:
Anybody remember seeing Kiss "perform" the song "I" on Solid Gold? Always thought it was scary having Kiss introduced by Dionne Warwick....
A world without hereos.....
manny mini boss
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Subject: Re: The Elder Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:47 pm
I voted as Love It, not my favorite KISS album, but most interesting KISS album by far. You have Lou Reed helping out with the lyrics, some kind of story line that I still not have totally figured out and a decade later you have Cher covering 'A World Without Heroes"
I always wondered what Eric Carr must have thought, here he is joining one of the biggest metal bands in the world and here he is sitting with Bob Ezrin and huge orchestra while Gene and Paul are explaining the album's concept and Ace has split refusing to come to the studio.
akeldama Metal is Forever
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Subject: Re: The Elder Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:06 pm
Good album,I think it would've got more props if it'd came after Creatures Of The Night. Paul's solo on A World Without Heroes is my fave off the whole album.
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Subject: Re: The Elder Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:13 pm
akeldama wrote:
Good album,I think it would've got more props if it'd came after Creatures Of The Night. Paul's solo on A World Without Heroes is my fave off the whole album.
I love the album but I think it would not matter when it would have been released, the album still would have gotten slammed and been a commerical failure because fans still would have complained that it does not sound like KISS.
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Subject: Re: The Elder Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:15 pm
KISS were already on life support (at least in the U.S.) by the time ELDER came out...
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Subject: Re: The Elder Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:17 pm
Fat Freddy wrote:
KISS were already on life support (at least in the U.S.) by the time ELDER came out...
Very true, but making a concept album about....... actually what is this album about anyway?
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Subject: Re: The Elder Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:17 pm
manny wrote:
Fat Freddy wrote:
KISS were already on life support (at least in the U.S.) by the time ELDER came out...
Very true, but making a concept album about....... actually what is this album about anyway?
You have to see the movie to get the full effect.
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Subject: Re: The Elder Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:19 pm
That's true. Plus Kiss was already on a downward spiral after releasing Dynasty and Unmasked (both of which I like).
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Subject: Re: The Elder Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:19 pm
manny wrote:
Fat Freddy wrote:
KISS were already on life support (at least in the U.S.) by the time ELDER came out...
Very true, but making a concept album about....... actually what is this album about anyway?
Only Gene Simmons knows, and he's too embarrassed to talk about it.
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thejokeriv Metal is my Life
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Subject: Re: The Elder Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:20 pm
SpectreFate wrote:
manny wrote:
Fat Freddy wrote:
KISS were already on life support (at least in the U.S.) by the time ELDER came out...
Very true, but making a concept album about....... actually what is this album about anyway?
You have to see the movie to get the full effect.
LMAO!!!!!
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Subject: Re: The Elder Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:21 pm
Whatever happened to the little AceFrehley dude who started this thread anyway? That guy was a hoot.
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manny mini boss
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Subject: Re: The Elder Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:23 pm
Fat Freddy wrote:
Whatever happened to the little AceFrehley dude who started this thread anyway? That guy was a hoot.
Gene sued him and he morphed into Marc 'N.W.A' Mason.
kmorg Metal is my Life
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Subject: Re: The Elder Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:32 pm
I think "The Elder" was mostly Bob Ezrin's brainchild. The band went in to record "Creatures of the night", and I think the 4 tracks that ended up on "Kiss Killers" were song originally intended to be on the follow up to "Unmasked". But Bob had an idea not far from what he had done with Alice Cooper, and his "Welcome To My Nightmare" concept album, and TV movie. One must also remember Bob's contibution to Pink Floyd's "The Wall". Rock operas was this guys "thing", I reckon. And as much as I love "The Elder", I can totally hear how long time fans of Kiss were dissapointed. I, on the other hand, were 6 years old, and the band could do no wrong! We thought the devil himself was singing on "The Oath". Years later my violin teacher wanted me to find a song I liked to learn to play. I had him transscribe "Under The Rose"!
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manny mini boss
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Subject: Re: The Elder Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:34 pm
good point about Bob Ezrin he also worked on Lou Reed's 'Berlin' that is concept album about.....actually I do not know what that album is about either!!! I just know that it is not about 'Berlin'
kmorg Metal is my Life
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Subject: Re: The Elder Thu Mar 12, 2009 2:05 pm
manny wrote:
good point about Bob Ezrin he also worked on Lou Reed's 'Berlin' that is concept album about.....actually I do not know what that album is about either!!! I just know that it is not about 'Berlin'
You know them 70's. They were perrty colorful, if nothing else!
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Subject: Re: The Elder Thu Mar 12, 2009 2:13 pm
"Look well Arthur...for this is the Holy Grail..."
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