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PostSubject: Re: Faith No More   Faith No More - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Jul 17, 2012 3:38 pm

Loved these guys back in the late 80s/early 90s. Tried to revisit them recently and my tastes have moved on. Still have some good memories of seeing them live at least.
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PostSubject: Re: Faith No More   Faith No More - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Jul 17, 2012 9:27 pm

Shawn Of Fire wrote:
This year is the 20th Anniversary of Angel Dust

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Great album...

It is indeed great and the last FNM album to hold my interest all the way through. I've made a friend at work that's younger than that album.
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PostSubject: Re: Faith No More   Faith No More - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Jul 18, 2012 12:38 pm

DallasBlack wrote:
Shawn Of Fire wrote:
This year is the 20th Anniversary of Angel Dust

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Great album...

It is indeed great and the last FNM album to hold my interest all the way through.

Same here!
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PostSubject: Re: Faith No More   Faith No More - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Jul 18, 2012 1:01 pm

Album Of The Year is my favorite FNM album...with Angel Dust a close second.

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PostSubject: Re: Faith No More   Faith No More - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Jul 18, 2012 1:25 pm

I'm a fan of the first four. Yes, even the ones with Chuck singing!!!!!



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PostSubject: Re: Faith No More   Faith No More - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Jul 18, 2012 5:21 pm

I used to not like the Chuck stuff, but after the direction they took without Martin I've learned to get used to his voice to appreciate the great music found within. Both those songs you posted are my favorite from his era.
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PostSubject: Re: Faith No More   Faith No More - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Nov 14, 2012 2:54 am

Resurrect this one, yo!

Some FNM fan site got Jim Martin to break his long silence for a 15-question Q&A. Some good questions/answers here, but leave it to fans to totally waste an opportunity and ask a bunch of utterly pointless, stupid questions.



After a silence of over a decade, former FAITH NO MORE guitarist Jim Martin agreed to a question-and-answer session with fans via a U.K.-based fan site. A set of 15 questions were selected by administrators of the fan site from over 500 submissions by fans eager to hear from Jim.

Said Martin: "Some weeks ago, the FNM 'fan club guy' was asking about how to contact me, he wanted to talk to me about the fan page. After several exchanges via email, he and I decided to do a Q&A thing for the fans.

"My departure from FNM in 1993 was controversial; I left while the band was still at the peak of its success.

"I am proud of my contributions to the success and legacy of FNM.

"I appreciate the time and effort it took to put these questions together. Thank you for the opportunity."

Q: What do you consider the highlight of your career?

Jim: Performing with Bo Diddley, Klaus Meine, METALLICA, Gary Rossington, Pepper Keenan, Sean Kinney, Jerry Cantrell, John Popper, Jason Newsted, singing MISFITS songs with METALLICA live during our tour with them and GUNS N' ROSES.

Q: You are an influence to many younger guitarists today, but who were your biggest influences and what do you remember about how those people helped to craft your sound and play style?

Jim: My influences, to a greater extent, were Jimmy Page, Jimi Hendrix and David Gilmore. Mostly Page. His method of using a pick and his fingers at the same time and his way of squeezing the humanity out of a guitar. It's funny how influences work. My influences were influenced by old blues men. Those legendary blues men were influenced by their tribal ancestors. The tribal ancestors are the link back to the beginning; they are the keepers of the essence. Through my influences, I am connected to the roots of time and the music that elevates the primordial spirit of mankind. We do not truly compose anything genuinely new, the listeners and the presentation are what is new, and it is the perspective that varies. The ability of expression and improvisation, the stuff of creation that fascinates all life.

Q: What was the deal with you being the only clothed FNM member in the infamous "FNM underwear poster?" Did you just think the photo idea was dumb, or did you think it'd be better/funnier with one dude dressed to the nines in jeans, leather vest, etc. while everyone else was near nekkid.

Jim: I remember it was one of the first big photo shoots for us set up by London Records. Ross Halfin, "famous rock photographer," was pretty aggressive, barking orders and abusing band members, particularly Puffy [drummer Mike Bordin]. He ordered everyone to strip down. I said, "Forget it" (I thought it was dumb). The other guys did, he snapped the picture and at that moment, I understood why he was famous…

Q: I'm a crazy obsessed fan and have listened to just about all the bootlegs and read all the interviews... Despite "not being into" the music on "Angel Dust" (so it is written in places), you played flawlessly all of '92-'93 and I even caught you banging your head enthusiastically during the Phoenix Festival. Also, while others were badmouthing you, you always played it off with a joke and came off as the bigger person (you were hilarious in the Maida Vale interviews!)...somethiing doesn't add up. Were you really that unhappy? If so, how do you keep such a cool head and stay so professional?

Jim: My publicized "not being into" "Angel Dust" was all about the way the whole process went down. There was a lot of weird pressure to follow up "The Real Thing", and as a consequence, the album "Angel Dust" was more contrived musically than I thought was necessary. I wanted more of the record to happen in the studio and Bill [Gould, bass] wanted every last tack nailed down before we went in. I wanted to spend time with it, management and the record company wanted to rush it out the door. There were a bunch of journalists in the studio. We were paying for a bunch of sampling that we could have created. Matt Wallace was calling me on the phone complaining about Mike Patton's performance. Management and record company were calling me complaining about Mike Patton's performance and desire for outside projects. The record company president came in the studio and said, "I hope nobody bought houses." All the air got sucked out of the room. That was one of those great moments when reality slaps you in the face. Some of my associates (had) bought houses. The pressure was on, and everyone wanted to be in the studio with me while I recorded, endlessly tinkering and smurfing with me and smurfing with Matt, and Matt is a really smurfing wound up guy already. Prior to "Angel Dust", I would work alone with Matt and his assistant engineer period. I had to kick everyone out, and even though it was not a new concept, it really pissed everyone off. Live performances were always very strong. From my perspective, we came across a lot heavier than the records. Over time, the chord progressions and the arrangements would morph in subtle ways that would make the set heavier than the studio version. As far as the ox manur in the press, yeah, there was a lot of negativity, and I tried to avoid being part of it to the point of refusing interviews. Of course, I was unhappy; individuals were making decisions which would prove to be damaging to FNM. However, despite these distractions, real people paid to see a show and we were able to deliver thanks to the support of a great crew and a great soundman, Greg Bess, who was used to working with the heavy bands. I actually really enjoyed those shows.

Q: If you could collaborate for a single cover song with any musician, dead or alive, who would that be and what would the song be?

Jim: I sure miss Cliff. Cliff Burton. We could do any song and twist it up horribly. I think if there were an opportunity to collaborate, we would write something new. Put Dave [Donato; AGENTS OF MISFORTUNE) in there on the drum kit and create something Cliff's mother would call "smurfed Up Weirdos."

Q. What is your relationship like now with the members of FAITH NO MORE?

Jim: To be honest, that is an emotional subject. There has been much negative rhetoric in the press, and it was my choice to either play their game, fight with them and let the press spin it, or leave them to play with themselves and allow you to make a decision based on the work I left behind. In an effort to avoid the negativity, I chose the latter. However, there are some points that I would like to address. I read a couple of interviews Matt Wallace did, and his simplified explanations can lead one to believe that I hate homosexuals, I did not contribute to "Angel Dust", and I did not play guitar on the record. Ouch. Something else is a little more accurate. The guitar parts are mine; that's me playing guitar on all the tracks. I contributed much to the songwriting and arrangements. Bill added some fluff to "Midlife Crisis" and "Midnite Cowboy" and wrote everything for his song "Small Victory", Mike wrote everything for "Malpractice", I wrote everything and created the samples for "Jizzlobber"; Bill contributed the keyboard outro. Mike wrote all of the lyrics for the album except Roddy wrote lyrics for "Be Aggressive". Matt's commentary about Roddy seemed a little weird; we (band members) all knew Roddy was ga-hey long before he "came out" and it was not an issue for anyone. Matt also forgot to mention that he and I spent a lot of time together on the production of "The Real Thing" and "Angel Dust" improving the recording method and sonic profile in the studio. I insisted on the co-producer credit for FNM on those two records because of that work. Notice "The Real Thing" and "Angel Dust" are the only two FNM records co-produced by Matt Wallace and FAITH NO MORE. I saw something in Wiki where someone pulled a comment out of an old bucket: Jim Martin said "I don't know why It's called 'Angel Dust', I had nothing to do with it." While that is true, it is not complete. The idea was Roddy's, and nobody else had anything to do with it either. He came in with a basic concept of a bird front, meat locker back, and Angel Dust for the title. The question was, "How do we get it (Roddy's idea) to the record cover?" We lost control of the sleeve art on the last two releases. "The Real Thing" and "Introduce Yourself" were conceived and designed by "the record company" and we simply paid the bill. This was an opportunity of artistic expression and finally one of us had an idea everyone would go along with. I got in contact with Mark Leialoha to discuss the idea, he got Werner "Vern" Krutein involved because Werner ran a stock agency and was able to produce the necessary photographs allowing us to realize Roddy's idea. I had the idea of the Russian army in the sleeve, inspired by THE POGUES album "Rum Sodomy And The Lash" which I was really into at the time. I rode hard on that and made sure it happened the way WE wanted it to happen. There was a lot of squealing when it came time to pay the bill, but at the end of the day, we retained control of our resources, we were able to use our people, and we maintained creative control.

Q: With your publicized dislike of the content/direction of "Angel Dust", are you surprised by how, 20 years on, it is widely regarded as one of the most influential 'metal' albums of the past 30 years?

Jim: As for my like or dislike of "Angel Dust", I touched on that a little, so please refer to question above. I am happy "Angel Dust" is regarded in a positive way. It is an affirmation of the legacy we all worked to create. I am aware that some of the newer bands I actually like have referred to FNM as an influence. I am also aware "Angel Dust" was on the Kerrang! most influential albums list of 2003. Is it an artist's affirmation? That's fine. Am I surprised? I don't think anyone can be expected to anticipate something like this.

Q: What kind of music are you listening to today? Is there anything that we might not generally expect that you like to listen to?

Jim: I've been listening to MACHINE HEAD, a great metal band out of Oakland, California. I enjoy classic jazz, reminds me of weird times as a kid. I like "A Glorious Lethal Euphoria" of THE MERMEN. It's crazy hardcore psychedelic surf music and hits the mark hard. I'll listen to any improv, at least for a few minutes.

Q: Is it true that you were offered to perform at reunion tour dates? If it is true, why did you decline? Fans would have been so happy to see on stage too!

Jim: For some time during 2008, I had been receiving information with increasing frequency that "we" were booking a reunion tour, festivals, Europe. I was informed that yes, the promoters were selling it as the original line up. In February 2009, Roddy called and said they were just beginning to think of putting something together, and just now feeling out everyone, and what did I think? I said yes, I was interested. I also told him I knew the tour was already booked, they were on the eve of announcing it, and it was time to sign the deals. I told him to send over the contracts so I could review them and started pressing management for details. Several days later, I was able to get management on the phone who told me they decided to use someone else… I know it's odd, no, you didn't miss anything. It happened just like that. In an effort to preclude any sloppy misinformation, I made the announcement that I would not be participating in the rumored reunion dates several days before they made their announcement.

Q: If FAITH NO MORE tours again and if they asked, would you make an appearance, kind of like when Chuck did a couple of songs? Would love to watch you perform songs like "Malpractice" or "Jizzlobber" would be awesome!

Jim: I know the fans want the real thing, and I was prepared to have a real dialogue about doing a run together. Unfortunately, it didn't happen. As for a random appearance, I do not feel that would do anyone justice.

Q: If you could use Bill and Ted's phone booth to go back in time to the "Angel Dust" era, would you do anything differently to make sure you and FNM were heading in the same direction? If so, what?

Jim: Number one thing: limit journalist access and impose more control over the interviews. Almost anyone could get an interview at that time. It was a free-for-all, and it hurt us.

Q: Have you been jamming with anyone lately, and do you have any plans to make more music?

Jim: No, I'm not working with anyone right now but I do have plans to publish more music. I released a record some time ago called "Milk And Blood". Go to rotgrub.com and email the webmaster for details.

Q: What do you think of the music FNM have created post you? And how do you feel when you see other guitarists belting out you licks?

Jim: I remember hearing some of the music a long time ago but I didn't really study it. I remember thinking it was heavily reliant on Mike. As for other persons playing my music, I don't really believe anyone could book a show as FNM without playing my music.

Q: Being one of the best shredders of your era/generation, and having rubbed shoulders with some awesome musicians in your time, have you never considered forming your own little "supergroup" to set the music word to rights!!??

Jim: Most of my associates have families and projects taking up their time, and I'm very consumed with the things I am doing. I hope I can get to a place where I'll be able to do something pretty soon. There are no specific plans at this time. Thanks for a great compliment.

Q: So where did you get the moniker "big sick ugly" from and did you like it?

Jim: It was bestowed upon me by the filthy press. I am pretty sure Geoff Barton gets the credit. Steffan "Cheeseburger" Chirazi, "Krusher Joule" and Neil "Greasy Chester" Perry helped magnify and perpetuate it and it was Kerrang!, once again, who rolled that one out there. Thanks to them for some funny times.

Pictured below : Jim Martin in December 2011

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Would any of you have recognized that guy if you walked past him? Holy crap!
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PostSubject: Re: Faith No More   Faith No More - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Nov 14, 2012 4:30 pm

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Would any of you have recognized that guy if you walked past him? Holy crap!

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PostSubject: Re: Faith No More   Faith No More - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Nov 14, 2012 8:11 pm

I read this yesterday. There was probably questions that didn't get asked because maybe he either didn't want to answer them or they just didn't pick those questions. Most of them were stupid though and with the internet today you could have found the answer to most if not all of those questions, but it was cool that he answered them and that people still remember him. I got his solo album a few years ago but it was horrible and I got rid of it. His signature guitar sound wasn't there either so it could have just been anyone on that album. He always seemed like a cool guy though.

I don't think anyone would recognize him now. He looks like someone I deliver mail to haha

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PostSubject: Re: Faith No More   Faith No More - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Nov 14, 2012 9:32 pm

I enjoy quite a few tracks on his solo album. It's a bit disjointed, though.
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PostSubject: Re: Faith No More   Faith No More - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Nov 16, 2012 10:37 am

Is he still a pumpkin farmer? Last I heard from him was that he was growing record-setting pumpkins. Seriously.

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As for the questions, either he or the modertor chose what ones he would answer, so blame them. It said over 500 questions were submitted, but those were the few they chose to answer.

I was part of a "live chat" with some NHL broadcasters (behind the scene stuff) and it was funny to see the questions come in, then the guys saying "I'm not answering that one, ha, ha". They only answered the questions that were "tame" and couldn't cause controversy. I'm sure it's the same for musicians.

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PostSubject: Re: Faith No More   Faith No More - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Nov 16, 2012 12:38 pm

But he did answer some good questions, one that he's probably avoided for a long time now. Or at least those that the other guys have avoided.

I'd bet money that most of those 500 questions were dumb. =)
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PostSubject: Re: Faith No More   Faith No More - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Nov 16, 2012 1:20 pm

I woulda asked about pumpkins Razz

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PostSubject: Re: Faith No More   Faith No More - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Nov 16, 2012 2:01 pm

MetalGuy71 wrote:
I woulda asked about pumpkins Razz

yea I was waiting for a question about that haha

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PostSubject: Re: Faith No More   Faith No More - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Nov 09, 2021 2:50 pm

Resurrecting a very old thread here.

I passed by my record store on my way back home, and picked up We Care A Lot and King For A Day on cd.

Blind purchases. Haven't spinned them yet.
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PostSubject: Re: Faith No More   Faith No More - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Nov 09, 2021 10:52 pm

Gilbert wrote:
Resurrecting a very old thread here.

I passed by my record store on my way back home, and picked up We care A Lot and King For A Day on cd.

Blind purchases. Haven't spinned them yet.
I have We Care a Lot, but don't really care for it much. Never heard the other one you bought. Curious what you think of them though after you hear them.
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I never got it Sleep

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PostSubject: Re: Faith No More   Faith No More - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Nov 10, 2021 2:09 am

The only FNM album I like is The Real Thing.
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PostSubject: Re: Faith No More   Faith No More - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Nov 10, 2021 4:24 am

Wrecked Neck wrote:
Gilbert wrote:
Resurrecting a very old thread here.

I passed by my record store on my way back home, and picked up We care A Lot and King For A Day on cd.

Blind purchases. Haven't spinned them yet.
I have We Care a Lot, but don't really care for it much. Never heard the other one you bought. Curious what you think of them though after you hear them.

Spinned a few tracks so far. Not really my thing.

Music sounds a bit "chaotic". I guess i need more spins.
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PostSubject: Re: Faith No More   Faith No More - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Nov 10, 2021 10:43 pm

Gilbert wrote:
Wrecked Neck wrote:
Gilbert wrote:
Resurrecting a very old thread here.

I passed by my record store on my way back home, and picked up We care A Lot and King For A Day on cd.

Blind purchases. Haven't spinned them yet.
I have We Care a Lot, but don't really care for it much. Never heard the other one you bought. Curious what you think of them though after you hear them.

Spinned a few tracks so far. Not really my thing.

Music sounds a bit "chaotic". I  guess i need more spins.

Probably won't help much, but good luck lol
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PostSubject: Re: Faith No More   Faith No More - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Nov 10, 2021 10:45 pm

Troublezone wrote:
The only FNM album I like is The Real Thing.

Angel Dust isn't too bad, but The Real Thing is by far their best album. At least the best one I've heard.
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Wrecked Neck wrote:
Troublezone wrote:
The only FNM album I like is The Real Thing.

Angel Dust isn't too bad, but The Real Thing is by far their best album. At least the best one I've heard.

I like a couple songs on Angel Dust like Midlife Crisis, but most of it is too weird. Mike Patton had full creative control with his vocal stylings. It’s a shame because the guy is a great singer when he wants to be! The Real Thing album was already written when he joined the band (except for his lyrical contributions). Ironically, Jim Martin had less influence on Angel Dust. That’s why he was dismissed (and with him also went the metal riffs).
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PostSubject: Re: Faith No More   Faith No More - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Nov 23, 2021 10:27 am

I always liked The Real Thing, but never got into much of FNM's other stuff.

I see that my ten-years-ago self posted in this thread about my lack of interest in Angel Dust, I re-acquired that CD a year or so ago after not hearing it for a very long time, and there are a couple of decent tracks on there buried in a lot of self indulgent gibberish.

I also picked up Introduce Yourself and again, there are a couple of good songs, but Chuck Mosely's vocals are the text book definition of "acquired taste." Oof!

At this point, I think I've got all the FNM stuff I'm ever gonna need.

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PostSubject: Re: Faith No More   Faith No More - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Nov 23, 2021 11:40 am

Fat Freddy wrote:
I always liked The Real Thing, but never got into much of FNM's other stuff.

I see that my ten-years-ago self posted in this thread about my lack of interest in Angel Dust, I re-acquired that CD a year or so ago after not hearing it for a very long time, and there are a couple of decent tracks on there buried in a lot of self indulgent gibberish.

I also picked up Introduce Yourself and again, there are a couple of good songs, but Chuck Mosely's vocals are the text book definition of "acquired taste." Oof!

At this point, I think I've got all the FNM stuff I'm ever gonna need.

The Real Thing is their magnum opus. They can’t top it!

The band was still young and metal wasn’t a dirty word. No Mike Patton artistic weirdo crap… just straightforward singing. And Jim Martin’s guitar was allowed to shine. I hate how FNM basically morphed into another Mr. Bungle. Angel Dust should have been a continuation of The Real Thing.
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King is still one of my faves. My top 3 from King are: Ricochet, Evidence and Ugly in the Morning. Cuckoo for Caca gets an honorable mention.
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