Bullet For My Valentine

Bukkake Tsunami Number of posts : 25557 Age : 53

A guy I work with is burning me a copy of their latest release, telling me it's metal. I have not heard it yet, but I'm pretty skeptical. I'm willing to give it a spin, but I'm not expecting much. I lump these guys in with bands like Avenged Sevenfold and other 'metal-core'. Am I wrong here? Anyone else? Like 'em or hate 'em, sound off.

Metal, Movies, Beer Number of posts : 37954 Age : 54

I saw'em open for Iron Maiden last fall and ehhh, they were OK I guess... not really my bag though. They seem to be tagged with the dreaded "emo" label (though I'm not even sure what constitutes "emo" to be honest with ya)... to me they sounded like an In Flames/Children of Bodom style melodic death/thrash band. The vocals were a little too WOOOOOARRRRRRGH for me

Metal is my Life Number of posts : 28649 Age : 39

There are some emo vocals on their early stuff, but they are supposedly getting heavier on their new album, from what I read on Blabbermouth. Maybe this was new material they were promoting, or they're heavier live.

Master Sailboat Number of posts : 9301 Age : 45

i don't like them personally, but that's just me.

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Metal master Number of posts : 515 Age : 35

they're kind of emo-metal

Metal, Movies, Beer Number of posts : 37954 Age : 54

Required Fields wrote:: There are some emo vocals on their early stuff.

Can someone explain to an old, out-of-the-loop guy like me what "emo vocals" sound like?

I'm not trying to be funny, I swear. I honestly have no idea.

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'The Poison' is not a bad album....it's Metal played by youger guys (early 20s, I believe)...it's got elements of stuff like Killswitch Engage as well as lots of guitar harmonies & cool riffs.

"Emo Vocals" I think means that combo of singing & mid-range screaming/shreiking....definitely have that.

Metal, Movies, Beer Number of posts : 37954 Age : 54

Shawn Of Fire wrote:: "Emo Vocals" I think means that combo of singing & mid-range screaming/shreiking....definitely have that.

Ahh, I see. I didn't hear much of that when I saw B.F.M.V. opening for Iron Maiden... it was pretty much a wall of WOOOOOAAARRRRRGH from what I remember.

Bukkake Tsunami Number of posts : 25557 Age : 53

Fat Freddy wrote:

Required Fields wrote:: There are some emo vocals on their early stuff.

Can someone explain to an old, out-of-the-loop guy like me what "emo vocals" sound like?

I'm not trying to be funny, I swear. I honestly have no idea.

I thought it was kinda-screamy-whiney-I-hate-myself vocals, but don't quote me on that. While metal vocals are generally of the pissed off, take-over-the-world-let's-kick-some-ass-vibe, emo are more "Why am I so unpopular and why didn't daddy love me?"

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Fat Freddy wrote:

Shawn Of Fire wrote:: "Emo Vocals" I think means that combo of singing & mid-range screaming/shreiking....definitely have that.

Ahh, I see. I didn't hear much of that when I saw B.F.M.V. opening for Iron Maiden... it was pretty much a wall of WOOOOOAAARRRRRGH from what I remember.

There's 3 different guys doing the WOOOOOAAARRRRRGH stuff...the singer/guitarist plus the other guitarist & bassist....they do have singing as well....my K-Octave guitarist has thier DVD...

Heart of Metal Number of posts : 1636 Age : 37

I hate their name

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They're not emo. That term is abused by people these days. It's simply used as an insult now, like the term "nu-metal," and generally has no musical relevance.

nOOb master Number of posts : 4429 Age : 35

they are like a cross between an emo and a metalcore band. i know cos i have seen them twice and are quite good live despite the fact that the music lets them down. they are very popular with emo kids who want to associate themselves with metal. something tells me thought that when metalcore goes down the pan they could pull through

Metal is in my blood Number of posts : 2546 Age : 35

Yeah, they're like emo-core or something. There's a deff a small amount of emo in there. I really dislike them because the vocals are either whiney and annoying or brutally core and... well, annoying again.

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Eyesore wrote:: They're not emo. That term is abused by people these days. It's simply used as an insult now, like the term "nu-metal," and generally has no musical relevance.

Agreed. People completely misuse the term "emo" now...they're not the slightest bit "emo" at all. "Emo" was the term given to bands like Dashboard Confessional...all whiny, moping about girls and how she broke my heart...sensitive ex-hardcore guys with gelled hair & tattoos playing acoustic guitars so girls will swoon...

People think anyone with eyeliner & black hair these days is "emo"...its a meaningless term, as Eyesore said, like "nu-metal" or "alternative"...

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Eyesore wrote:: They're not emo. That term is abused by people these days. It's simply used as an insult now, like the term "nu-metal," and generally has no musical relevance.

This band is NOT emo. Not anywhere close. This is more like a metalcore-ish Killswitch Engage sort of band with some cool riffs and decent guitar work. I like one of their songs.

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Emo is not a band like Dashboard Confessional. That's frickin' pop rock. Plain and simple. Emo is Fugazi!

Metal is my Life Number of posts : 12811 Age : 55

I saw em open for Maiden too - they were much better than I thought they would be - heavily influenced by metallica and megadeth (easy to pick out in their riffs). I would have like them much better if they didn't tune their guitars so low. I haven't heard their CD, so I don't know what they sound like in the studio. My impression was not bad. They did have a couple songs with the WOOOOARRRGGGGGHHHH stuff. I wouldn't call em emo - they sounded metal to me. The CD may sound emo, but I wouldn't know since I;ve only seen em live.

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Eyesore wrote:: Emo is not a band like Dashboard Confessional. That's frickin' pop rock. Plain and simple. Emo is Fugazi!

I think I pick up humor in that post? lol!

Emo is MOST DEFINITELY Dashboard Confessional (now now maybe, but when they started as an offshoot of the band Further Seems Forever adn were totally underground, they almost single handedly invented the term)...

"Emo" originally was nothing about hair-dye & eyeliner...

Metal, Movies, Beer Number of posts : 37954 Age : 54

Sheesh. After all this I still don't think I understand what "emo" is. I give up. Laughing

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Fat Freddy wrote:: Sheesh. After all this I still don't think I understand what "emo" is. I give up.

I only know because I spent 4 years working at a college area CD store (3 colleges within 10 miles) and we sold a LOT of that and "Indie Rock" (Death Cab For Cutie, Lucero, Bright Eyes, Modest Mouse, etc)...

You ain't missing a thing! Laughing very hard

Bukkake Tsunami Number of posts : 25557 Age : 53

Well, I still haven't heard the cd yet, but judging from the responses, I'm not getting my hopes up.

And yes, just like you Freddy, I'm still don't understand what exactly "emo" is, although I'm pretty sure I don't want to hear it. Rolling Eyes

Metal, Movies, Beer Number of posts : 37954 Age : 54

MetalGuy71 wrote:: And yes, just like you Freddy, I'm still don't understand what exactly "emo" is, although I'm pretty sure I don't want to hear it.

Yea, I agree, I think we would both be better off remaining blissfully ignorant. Smile

nOOb master Number of posts : 4429 Age : 35

there upcoming album will apparently be really ultra heavy and more "metal" than before. my predicition is more tenth - generation metalcore

Dinky Do Number of posts : 4830 Age : 43

emo is a term used for the lyrics, Most of the lyrics are about how the singers life sucks thats y they name it emo short for Emotional... Terrible Genre lol

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