ToB's Controversial Opinions thread (that no one here will agree with)

I can see the view that Fistful of Metal is better than State of Euphoria and i probably agree, but Slayer got much better after Show No Mercy. I think i can't fully enjoy SNM because of the crap production... Crionics is a damn good song though.

I totally agree with 8. Lethal is in fact better than 99% of ALL bands out there!

I think I agree with 3 too.

I think 'Reign in Blood' is an excellent album is a huge improvement in songwriting/performance not to mention production then 'Show No Mercy'


I have never heard of Cauldron Born but I am going to assume since you like 'em ToB then they must suck.

Cauldron Born is a good US power metal band. Better than IM they are not. To me it's like compareing apples and oranges though.

I didn't realize there would be so much agreement here. I should add many more things to get my final list of 10 things that no one else agrees with ...

thejokeriv wrote:

Ok - I agree with NOTHING on the list!!!!

Sorry, Blaze sucks and the song writing was lacking.

But not as lacking as the other albums I listed.

Thrasher73 wrote:

I agree with # 4 TOB.Any Zetro album is better than Bonded by Blood IMO.

True!

James B. wrote:

I think point number 5 is completely valid

In regards to Lars drumming, are you refering to the first three albums only and did he offer to play on the next ToB cd for the plug?

No, first 5 albums actually ... and I really don't think he could play our stuff! My post wasn't in regards to what he sounds like these days ... which is AWFUL!!!! Same with Kirk, he was good back in the day but these days he isn't even trying.

jerseyultifan+ wrote:

sorry,jim,you oughta know me by now..i am going to agree with you on number 6 w/o a moments hesistation.and you can tell ski i said that too!! since i am a fan of yours,alterted state,deadly blessing,and faith factor..however,you missed one...his first band Zygo! lol!

I only didn't list ZYGO because I don't think I have heard them, but I did forget one band .... OBLITERATOR! \m/ \m/

Temple of Blood wrote:

I didn't realize there would be so much agreement here. I should add many more things to get my final list of 10 things that no one else agrees with ...

Why are you trying to have a list that noone agrees with?

I'd agree with #4 as well.

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LETHAL is better than CAGE

That's ludicrous! 2 completely different styles to even compare the 2 bands.

Lurideath wrote:

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LETHAL is better than CAGE

That's ludicrous! 2 completely different styles to even compare the 2 bands.

Still true though

Lurideath wrote:

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LETHAL is better than CAGE

That's ludicrous! 2 completely different styles to even compare the 2 bands.

They're both US power metal bands.

Oh, didn't know that. I only know of the Lethal from Sweden which is thrash. Sorry. haha

Temple of Blood wrote:

Lurideath wrote:

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LETHAL is better than CAGE

That's ludicrous! 2 completely different styles to even compare the 2 bands.

They're both US power metal bands.

But Lethal sounds like Queensryche and Cage sounds like Judas Priest after downing 57 Espresso's...

Temple of Blood wrote:

1. CAULDRON BORN are a better band than IRON MAIDEN
2. The Blaze Bayley IRON MAIDEN albums are better than the recent Bruce ones (including all Bruce's solo albums)
3. "Fistful of Metal" is better than "State of Euphroria"
4. "Impact is Imminent" is better than "Bonded by Blood"
5. "Show No Mercy" is better than "Reign in Blood"
6. Ski (FAITH FACTOR, ex-DEADLY BLESSING, ex-ALTERED STATE) is a far better singer than Tim "Ripper" Owens.
7. Skolnick's guitar solos these days are pretty tasteless and terrible
8. LETHAL is better than CAGE
9. Lars Ulrich's drumming >>>> Jon Schaffer's songwriting
10. FORCED ENTRY is much better than BELIEVER

... to be continued ...

1. Disagree
2. Sort of agree... I like The X-Factor better than the new Bruce albums, but Virtual XI sucks.
3. Agree
4. Disagree
5. AGREE!
6. Agree
7. Agree
8. Agree
9. Disagree
10. No idea, I don't know Forced Entry

Hmm... not bad huh?

manny wrote:

I have never heard of Cauldron Born but I am going to assume since you like 'em ToB then they must suck.

I know you were joking manny... but Cauldron Born rule! I can't imagine anyone into US heavy/power metal not loving that band.

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8. LETHAL is better than CAGE

Cage is one of my 5 favorite bands across all possible genres these days...so I need to hear this Lethal.

Piqued, I am.

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I can't imagine anyone into US heavy/power metal not loving that band.

I addressed that in a different thread. There's just "something" off with that group of American Powermetal bands from the 80s/90s that I can't put a finger on. (with a few exceptions)

I think Dave the Boss and Achrisk are the most likely to agree with me ... I'll have to be extra picky to throw them off ...

Dave the Boss wrote:

manny wrote:

I have never heard of Cauldron Born but I am going to assume since you like 'em ToB then they must suck.

I know you were joking manny... but Cauldron Born rule! I can't imagine anyone into US heavy/power metal not loving that band.

Is it a little sad that I've never heard them?

S wrote:

Dave the Boss wrote:

manny wrote:

I have never heard of Cauldron Born but I am going to assume since you like 'em ToB then they must suck.

I know you were joking manny... but Cauldron Born rule! I can't imagine anyone into US heavy/power metal not loving that band.

Is it a little sad that I've never heard them?

No, they were pretty underground. If it hadn't been for StormSpell records reissuing 'Born Of The Cauldron', i would not have heard of them either.

S wrote:

Dave the Boss wrote:

manny wrote:

I have never heard of Cauldron Born but I am going to assume since you like 'em ToB then they must suck.

I know you were joking manny... but Cauldron Born rule! I can't imagine anyone into US heavy/power metal not loving that band.

Is it a little sad that I've never heard them?

Yeah... kinda... But anyway, they're awesome. Imagine Fates Warning and Rising Force having a fistfight, while Dio and Maiden are being blasted in the background. Awesome stuff.

scottmitchell74 wrote:

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I can't imagine anyone into US heavy/power metal not loving that band.

I addressed that in a different thread. There's just "something" off with that group of American Powermetal bands from the 80s/90s that I can't put a finger on. (with a few exceptions)

Where did you post that? I can't remember reading that at all...