Christian Thrash metal top 10

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

Funny...I see everyone mentioning Stop The Bleeding...I never saw it as a Thrash Metal album...I saw it more along the lines of like AGENT STEEL...fast in places, but w/ melodic vocals...the only song w/ Thrash vocals on it was the one about animals (can't remember the name right now) that they made the video with...the rest all had Guy's "King Diamond" styled high clean vocals and lower register clean vocals...

Now, they absolutely utilized more Thrash influences beyond this album...but when it came out, I would not have categorized it as such.

Awful hard to pin down thrash based on vocals. Thrash is about the music, speed and technicality to me. There are a hundred different vocal styles throughout the thrash and metal genres. And STB was definitely thrash musically.

I generally lump speed metal and thrash metal together.

T-Roy wrote:

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

Funny...I see everyone mentioning Stop The Bleeding...I never saw it as a Thrash Metal album...I saw it more along the lines of like AGENT STEEL...fast in places, but w/ melodic vocals...the only song w/ Thrash vocals on it was the one about animals (can't remember the name right now) that they made the video with...the rest all had Guy's "King Diamond" styled high clean vocals and lower register clean vocals...

Now, they absolutely utilized more Thrash influences beyond this album...but when it came out, I would not have categorized it as such.

Awful hard to pin down thrash based on vocals. Thrash is about the music, speed and technicality to me. There are a hundred different vocal styles throughout the thrash and metal genres. And STB was definitely thrash musically.

The tones were quite heavy, especially for the time, and the song Gary sang on is most definitely Thrash...I just never considered it a strictly Thrash Metal album like Deliverance or Extraction From Mortality...

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

T-Roy wrote:

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

Funny...I see everyone mentioning Stop The Bleeding...I never saw it as a Thrash Metal album...I saw it more along the lines of like AGENT STEEL...fast in places, but w/ melodic vocals...the only song w/ Thrash vocals on it was the one about animals (can't remember the name right now) that they made the video with...the rest all had Guy's "King Diamond" styled high clean vocals and lower register clean vocals...

Now, they absolutely utilized more Thrash influences beyond this album...but when it came out, I would not have categorized it as such.

Awful hard to pin down thrash based on vocals. Thrash is about the music, speed and technicality to me. There are a hundred different vocal styles throughout the thrash and metal genres. And STB was definitely thrash musically.

The tones were quite heavy, especially for the time, and the song Gary sang on is most definitely Thrash...I just never considered it a strictly Thrash Metal album like Deliverance or Extraction From Mortality...

Gary? I know he did some of the vocals on Pathogenic Ocular Dissonance but don't remember on STB.

Temple of Blood wrote:

I generally lump speed metal and thrash metal together.

Me too. In the early 80s both terms were more or less interchangeable anyway. One man's "thrash metal" was another man's "speed metal. "

Fat Freddy wrote:

Temple of Blood wrote:

I generally lump speed metal and thrash metal together.

Me too. In the early 80s both terms were more or less interchangeable anyway. One man's "thrash metal" was another man's "speed metal. "

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This can't be done. My list today would probably change tomorrow.

1. Believer - Extraction From Mortality
2. Vengeance Rising - Human Sacrifice
3. Deliverance - Deliverance
4. Sacrament - Tesimony of Apocalypse
5. Tourniquet - Stop The Bleeding (although I agree, this is speed metal)
6. Mortification - Mortification
7. Ultimatum - Into The Pit
8. Consecrator - Image of Deception
9. Once Dead - Once Dead
10. Detritus - Perpetual Defiance

T-Roy wrote:

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

T-Roy wrote:

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

Funny...I see everyone mentioning Stop The Bleeding...I never saw it as a Thrash Metal album...I saw it more along the lines of like AGENT STEEL...fast in places, but w/ melodic vocals...the only song w/ Thrash vocals on it was the one about animals (can't remember the name right now) that they made the video with...the rest all had Guy's "King Diamond" styled high clean vocals and lower register clean vocals...

Now, they absolutely utilized more Thrash influences beyond this album...but when it came out, I would not have categorized it as such.

Awful hard to pin down thrash based on vocals. Thrash is about the music, speed and technicality to me. There are a hundred different vocal styles throughout the thrash and metal genres. And STB was definitely thrash musically.

The tones were quite heavy, especially for the time, and the song Gary sang on is most definitely Thrash...I just never considered it a strictly Thrash Metal album like Deliverance or Extraction From Mortality...

Gary? I know he did some of the vocals on Pathogenic Ocular Dissonance but don't remember on STB.

Yup...on the song "Ark Of Suffering"...Track 3. (I rememebred)...

sheesh...I NEVER knew that dude! Gonna go listen to that one right now.

Mind like steel trap!!!

Whatever style it is, that is a monster of a song.

So hard to choose!!

In no order (as that depends on mood);



Deliverance - Deliverance

Deliverance - Weapons Of Our Warfare

Vengeance Rising - Once Dead

Vengeance Rising - Human Sacrifice

Tourniquet - Stop The Bleeding (I also agree it's more "Speed"...but hey)

Mortification - Mortification

Mortification - Post Momentary Affliction

Ultimatum - Into The Pit

Once Dead - Visions Of Hell

Tourniquet - Pathogenic Occular Dissonance




**Adding to genre controversy, I will always consider Scrolls of the Megiloth and Released Upon the Earth to be more Death Metal offerings, although I recognize that Released may have a weak(er) hold on that claim.**

I'm surprised how many lists the once dead album made it on. Is it really that good?

Stender wrote:

I'm surprised how many lists the once dead album made it on.

I agree to me it was disappointing. I thought the Die Happy and Sircle of Silence stuff was better than the Once Dead.

Stender wrote:

I'm surprised how many lists the once dead album made it on. Is it really that good?

I wouldnt call it top 10 of all time good but its pretty decent.A different vocalist would have made it so much better.Great riffs from Glenn Rogers though.

Glennyrd Skynyrd!!!!

Navouhodonosor wrote:

Stender wrote:

T-Roy wrote:

MetalFRO wrote:

5. Detritus - If But For One
8. Betrayal - The Passing

Never heard of either of these. TOP 10 ALL TIME YOU SAY!?

Betrayal sucks hard, dont get your hopes up if you give em a try. that particular Detritus album isnt really thrash, more powermetalish, but still really cool!

Tha's correct about 2nd Detritus (not thrash) but I think it sucks badly...

BLASPHEMY!!!

"If But For One" is a CLASSIC. It's not "purist" thrash, by any means, but I consider it progressive or artsy thrash, much in the way Anacrusis' final album was. NOT Power Metal by any stretch.

Oh, and Betrayal rules. Not as much as Tourniquet or Deliverance, but they rule just the same.

Hahahahaha!!!! I prefer the 1st cd definitely & the Seventh Angel stuff as well.

Check out Arnion.

I really wish The Moshketeers stuff would have come out on a proper label. I think many more people would have loved it.

Actually, there were a bunch of Christian thrash and speed metal bands that never were afforded the opportunity to be on a label that really could have released great albums.

ultmetal wrote:

I really wish The Moshketeers stuff would have come out on a proper label. I think many more people would have loved it.

Actually, there were a bunch of Christian thrash and speed metal bands that never were afforded the opportunity to be on a label that really could have released great albums.

yep there was

ultmetal wrote:

Actually, there were a bunch of Christian thrash and speed metal bands that never were afforded the opportunity to be on a label that really could have released great albums.

Yep,Mortal Enemy comes to mind.

scottmitchell74 wrote:

Mortification - Mortification

Mortification - Post Momentary Affliction

**Adding to genre controversy, I will always consider Scrolls of the Megiloth and Released Upon the Earth to be more Death Metal offerings, although I recognize that Released may have a weak(er) hold on that claim.**

See, I never considered either Morty's S/T or PMA to be thrash. I consider both to be death metal. They are more developed than other early progenitors of the style (read: Death's "Scream Bloody Gore" or Possessed's "Seven Churches"), and have hallmarks of the DM style that separate them from extreme thrash bands of the day (Autopsy, for example). I just can't bring myself to consider either album thrash. While DM purists might say that "Scrolls" was the only true DM album Morty ever recorded, as a long-time musician, music fan, and being fairly well educated on the subject, I can't agree with that assessment.

I don't know. I think the first Morty, while having death vocals, had more in common with bands like Kreator, Sodom, Destruction, etc., than with Death, Cancer, Obituary, Morbid Angel, etc. or any of the early death metal bands.

James B. wrote:

ultmetal wrote:

I really wish The Moshketeers stuff would have come out on a proper label. I think many more people would have loved it.

Actually, there were a bunch of Christian thrash and speed metal bands that never were afforded the opportunity to be on a label that really could have released great albums.

yep there was

What they said! Two of the best that come to mind are Drop Dead, Red Ink, Speaking of Red Ink anyone know how to get ahold of Jorge Molne? If you do PM me.