Phil Anselmo and Pantera

"Power Metal" is a great disc.

MetalGuy71 wrote:

Me too, however, being the cynic that I am, I have to agree with MC's "exploitative" statement. When the bank accounts start to dry up, just wait and see how quick Vinnie goes into the archives and throws these together on his Big Vin record label. You know, for the fans.

Wait till the next "Hellyeah" record tanks. Then suddenly we'll see "Big Vin Presents: PANTERA: THE EARLY YEARS" box set, with all four discs remixed, remastered, repackaged, with a Dimebag memorial guitar pick, a patch, a DVD, and a photo book.

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"Power Metal" is a great disc.

Yeah, it is. If Vin's gonna reissue any of the early Panteras, it should be that one.

Fat Freddy wrote:

MetalGuy71 wrote:

Me too, however, being the cynic that I am, I have to agree with MC's "exploitative" statement. When the bank accounts start to dry up, just wait and see how quick Vinnie goes into the archives and throws these together on his Big Vin record label. You know, for the fans.

Wait till the next "Hellyeah" record tanks. Then suddenly we'll see "Big Vin Presents: PANTERA: THE EARLY YEARS" box set, with all four discs remixed, remastered, repackaged, with a Dimebag memorial guitar pick, a patch, a DVD, and a photo book.

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"Power Metal" is a great disc.

Yeah, it is. If Vin's gonna reissue any of the early Panteras, it should be that one.

Oh great, the "Hot N Heavy Home Vid" will see the light od day again .

Sad thing is, id buy that set

DeathCult wrote:

Sad thing is, id buy that set

Sad thing is, I probably would too.

Oh, wait, I forgot... the fifth BONUS CD in the Pantera box set would probably be the demos for the second Damagaplan album that never got released.

mc666 wrote:

for some reason, it's become hip to claim how much better Pantera were in their glam days. i thought they sucked then too. they've always sucked. they were trend chasers from beginning to end. nothing more.

I didnt say they were better, most of it is still pretty lame. Just a few songs I like out of the era.

DeathCult wrote:

I didnt say they were better, most of it is still pretty lame. Just a few songs I like out of the era.

"Pu$$y tight! To-NIGHT!"

Fat Freddy wrote:

DeathCult wrote:

I didnt say they were better, most of it is still pretty lame. Just a few songs I like out of the era.

"Pu$$y tight! To-NIGHT!"

Guess thats why he went to the movies.

I always thought how interesting it was that a young teen age Anselmo wanted to be Halford. Then the post Priest Halford wanted to be the psuedo-tough Anselmo.

the bonus disc will be early footage of Pantera from The Bronco Bowl in Dallas, Savvy's in Fort Worth, and Rascals down by the river bottom in Arlington.

DeathCult wrote:

Fat Freddy wrote:

MetalGuy71 wrote:

Me too, however, being the cynic that I am, I have to agree with MC's "exploitative" statement. When the bank accounts start to dry up, just wait and see how quick Vinnie goes into the archives and throws these together on his Big Vin record label. You know, for the fans.

Wait till the next "Hellyeah" record tanks. Then suddenly we'll see "Big Vin Presents: PANTERA: THE EARLY YEARS" box set, with all four discs remixed, remastered, repackaged, with a Dimebag memorial guitar pick, a patch, a DVD, and a photo book.

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"Power Metal" is a great disc.

Yeah, it is. If Vin's gonna reissue any of the early Panteras, it should be that one.

Oh great, the "Hot N Heavy Home Vid" will see the light od day again .

Sad thing is, id buy that set

EDIT: From October 2007. True then, just as true today

I can read the press release already...

"After many years, we've (me & a team of lawyers) decided that we want to honor my brother's legacy as a true guitar hero and clean out the vaults. Because ,YOU, the fans demanded it, we are re-releasing all of Pantera's recorded material, even the faggy-glam stuff. The albums will come with all new art work to replace that crappy panther that my 4-yr old nephew drew and contain all the regular tracks, plus some poorly recorded demos, live material from our momma's basement, Dime belching into a mic and anything else we can come up with. This ain't about money. It's about my brother's legacy. The re-issues will be available for sale in regular cd-format, super-duper digi packs, ultra-deluxe 4 cd/3 dvd box set, A,E, I, O and , U-tunes, and some other bizzarre format that hasn't even been invented yet".

And you know what? I'll be right there to buy 'em.

MetalGuy71 wrote:

DeathCult wrote:

Fat Freddy wrote:

MetalGuy71 wrote:

Me too, however, being the cynic that I am, I have to agree with MC's "exploitative" statement. When the bank accounts start to dry up, just wait and see how quick Vinnie goes into the archives and throws these together on his Big Vin record label. You know, for the fans.

Wait till the next "Hellyeah" record tanks. Then suddenly we'll see "Big Vin Presents: PANTERA: THE EARLY YEARS" box set, with all four discs remixed, remastered, repackaged, with a Dimebag memorial guitar pick, a patch, a DVD, and a photo book.

Quote :

"Power Metal" is a great disc.

Yeah, it is. If Vin's gonna reissue any of the early Panteras, it should be that one.

Oh great, the "Hot N Heavy Home Vid" will see the light od day again .

Sad thing is, id buy that set

EDIT: From October 2007. True then, just as true today

I can read the press release already...

"After many years, we've (me & a team of lawyers) decided that we want to honor my brother's legacy as a true guitar hero and clean out the vaults. Because ,YOU, the fans demanded it, we are re-releasing all of Pantera's recorded material, even the faggy-glam stuff. The albums will come with all new art work to replace that crappy panther that my 4-yr old nephew drew and contain all the regular tracks, plus some poorly recorded demos, live material from our momma's basement, Dime belching into a mic and anything else we can come up with. This ain't about money. It's about my brother's legacy. The re-issues will be available for sale in regular cd-format, super-duper digi packs, ultra-deluxe 4 cd/3 dvd box set, A,E, I, O and , U-tunes, and some other bizzarre format that hasn't even been invented yet".

And you know what? I'll be right there to buy 'em.

LOL................

Today I got my first Pantera album, after years of knowing the band, I found a new copy of cowboys from hell for 5 bucks. To be honest I would never buy a copy from this band, their music is not enduring, and memorable

mc666 wrote:

for some reason, it's become hip to claim how much better Pantera were in their glam days. i thought they sucked then too. they've always sucked. they were trend chasers from beginning to end. nothing more.

I don't think they chased any trends in the 90's when grunge ruled and metal was not cool. They played their brand of metal when others went soft... Also how was power groove metal a trend when they made CFH? They had their own style.

powermacho wrote:

Today I got my first Pantera album, after years of knowing the band, I found a new copy of cowboys from hell for 5 bucks. To be honest I would never buy a copy from this band, their music is not enduring, and memorable

Not memorable? I know it's cool to bash Pantera but to deny the riffs on CFH is a little out there... If you think Cemetery Gates is not a memorable song then it's time to get your ears checked.

Stender wrote:

Cant stand groove. Cant stand Pantera.

What the hell is music without any groove? Most any good rock or metal bands have some groove in their rhythm.

Troublezone wrote:

They had their own style.

really? i thought they borrowed Exhorder's.

I don't think anyone on this board is slamming Pantera because it is fashionable, I just think they sincerely donot like them, as for me I am a fan but not a diehard Pantera fan.

mc666 wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

They had their own style.

really? i thought they borrowed Exhorder's.

Good point. I think people forget about Exhorder.

I enjoy Cowboys from Hell, and some of Vulgar Display of Power, but I find Anselmo's growling grating. They way is true of all the bands that followed and adopted the same style of singing. Not my cup of tea, definitely.

The main similarity in Exhorder & Pantera was the vocals. Slaughter in the Vatican was much faster & heavier than anything Pantera ever did, When The Law came out in 93 it was much closer to the groovy side. Having both been from New Orleans & about the same age I have no doubt Phil & Kyle knew each other & who ripped off who's style will forever remain a mystery.

Hamer12 wrote:

The main similarity in Exhorder & Pantera was the vocals. Slaughter in the Vatican was much faster & heavier than anything Pantera ever did, When The Law came out in 93 it was much closer to the groovy side. Having both been from New Orleans & about the same age I have no doubt Phil & Kyle knew each other & who ripped off who's style will forever remain a mystery.

Well, Exhorder was definately the better band.

mc666 wrote:

Troublezone wrote:

They had their own style.

really? i thought they borrowed Exhorder's.

I have owned both Exhorder albums and the only similarity i can hear is the vocals. There may have been other slight similarities but Exhorder never blended any southern rock flavor in their riffs like Dimebag and they definately couldn't write a solo worth a crap. The Exhorder influence was not a carbon copy, Pantera developed their own sound.

Hamer12 wrote:

The main similarity in Exhorder & Pantera was the vocals. Slaughter in the Vatican was much faster & heavier than anything Pantera ever did, When The Law came out in 93 it was much closer to the groovy side. Having both been from New Orleans & about the same age I have no doubt Phil & Kyle knew each other & who ripped off who's style will forever remain a mystery.

Nicely put.

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Well, Exhorder was definately the better band.

Power Metal and CFH are better than anything Exhorder did.

I'm still wondering how they were "trend chasers" mc666? Even if they copied Exhorder, that style was never widespread or popular until Pantera toured around a few years.