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PostSubject: Stupid 2112 question   Stupid 2112 question Icon_minitimeFri Dec 12, 2008 8:52 pm

Rush - 2112

The story of the title track, pretty cut and dried...futuristic soul-less society run by a religious dictatorship, dude finds guitar and is inspired, tries to share it with the world, the priests don't agree and smash the guitar, dude cannot live without music and kills himself. Simple enough...but one question:

At the end of the song your hear "Attention all planets of the solar federation, we have assumed control". Who is saying this exactly? Is it a rebellious uprising against the priests because they killed the guy, is it the priests themselves...or did Rush just think it sounded cool to end the album that way?

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I always thought it was the priests proclaiming their victory.
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I dunno, but I still hate Ayn Rand
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I assumed it was an Alien force that arrived and was announcing it.
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I always thought it was the "Elder Race" returning and dethroning The Priests. Check out these lyrics from The Oracle section:

Quote :

They left the planets long ago
The elder race still learn and grow
Their power grows with purpose strong
To claim the home where they belong
Home, to tear the temples down...
Home, to change..


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I like toho's answer. And kudos to xyz for posting the only Dilbert Ive ever laughed at.
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They left the planets long ago
The elder race still learn and grow
Their power grows with purpose strong
To claim the home where they belong
Home, to tear the temples down...
Home, to change..

Duh!! That's got to be it. Makes sense....they've returned. See, Toho lived that! In a smokey haze he figured that out while the rest of us were we lads!! lol! Razz
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No kidding. A lot of the album themes I've figured out came thanks to an "altered mental state".

I have a classic story about how a girlfriend and I spent an entire evening figuring out what was going on on Concrete Blonde's "Mexican Moon" album.

Too bad I only remember about 1/4 of it but we sure had it figured out at the time.

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DeathCult wrote:
And kudos to xyz for posting the only Dilbert Ive ever laughed at.

You're welcome. Very Happy
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I agree with Toho, it's the Elder Race coming back to kick some ass! 🤘
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PostSubject: Re: Stupid 2112 question   Stupid 2112 question Icon_minitimeFri Dec 12, 2008 11:35 pm

tohostudios wrote:
I always thought it was the "Elder Race" returning and dethroning The Priests. Check out these lyrics from The Oracle section:

Quote :

They left the planets long ago
The elder race still learn and grow
Their power grows with purpose strong
To claim the home where they belong
Home, to tear the temples down...
Home, to change..


Ah! You are the man!
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tohostudios wrote:
No kidding. A lot of the album themes I've figured out came thanks to an "altered mental state".

I watched "Pink Floyd The Wall" once while tripping on acid, every single second made PERFECT sense, a completely revelatory experience...of course the next day I couldn't remember a damn thing I had learned from it.
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PostSubject: Re: Stupid 2112 question   Stupid 2112 question Icon_minitimeSat Dec 13, 2008 8:18 am

Dang, I wish I'd have seen this posted earlier, I wouldve said the same thing; The Elder Race comes back to claim the Home where they belong.

man, Rush rules......

.....but you guys knew that already right? 🇬🇹
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PostSubject: Re: Stupid 2112 question   Stupid 2112 question Icon_minitimeSat Dec 13, 2008 6:30 pm

Wow, I had a way more pessimistic view of that last part; I thought the bad guys won! Well, I suppose either way, it's still an awesome song.
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PostSubject: Re: Stupid 2112 question   Stupid 2112 question Icon_minitimeSat Dec 13, 2008 9:07 pm

tohostudios wrote:
I always thought it was the "Elder Race" returning and dethroning The Priests. Check out these lyrics from The Oracle section:

Quote :

They left the planets long ago
The elder race still learn and grow
Their power grows with purpose strong
To claim the home where they belong
Home, to tear the temples down...
Home, to change..



You totally nailed it. It always struck me that if the character in the story hadn't committed suicide he wouldve lived to seen the Elders return.

Lessoned learned... suicide is never an option !!! see Rush's song 'The Pass'....


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🇬🇹


Imho, any positive thread about Rush is a good thread!!! Very Happy
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the sentinel wrote:
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Imho, any positive thread about Rush is a good thread!!! Very Happy

I agree! I think I'll go listen to some Rush right now!
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