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Guest Guest
| Subject: Stupid 2112 question Fri Dec 12, 2008 6:52 pm | |
| Rush - 2112 The story of the title track, pretty cut and dried...futuristic soul-less society run by a religious dictatorship, dude finds guitar and is inspired, tries to share it with the world, the priests don't agree and smash the guitar, dude cannot live without music and kills himself. Simple enough...but one question: At the end of the song your hear "Attention all planets of the solar federation, we have assumed control". Who is saying this exactly? Is it a rebellious uprising against the priests because they killed the guy, is it the priests themselves...or did Rush just think it sounded cool to end the album that way? |
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XYZ Card-carrying Van Halen Freak
Number of posts : 2600 Age : 35
| Subject: Re: Stupid 2112 question Fri Dec 12, 2008 6:54 pm | |
| I always thought it was the priests proclaiming their victory. | |
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DeathCult Master Of The Crotch Grab
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| Subject: Re: Stupid 2112 question Fri Dec 12, 2008 6:55 pm | |
| I dunno, but I still hate Ayn Rand | |
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scottmitchell74 Jada Pinkett Smith's Cabana Boy
Number of posts : 9052 Age : 50
| Subject: Re: Stupid 2112 question Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:31 pm | |
| I assumed it was an Alien force that arrived and was announcing it. | |
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tohostudios King Of Kaiju
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| Subject: Re: Stupid 2112 question Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:31 pm | |
| I always thought it was the "Elder Race" returning and dethroning The Priests. Check out these lyrics from The Oracle section: - Quote :
They left the planets long ago The elder race still learn and grow Their power grows with purpose strong To claim the home where they belong Home, to tear the temples down... Home, to change..
_________________ "The cat is the most ruthless, most terrifying of animals." - Spock in the "Catspaw" episode of ToS Season 2.
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DeathCult Master Of The Crotch Grab
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| Subject: Re: Stupid 2112 question Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:40 pm | |
| I like toho's answer. And kudos to xyz for posting the only Dilbert Ive ever laughed at. | |
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scottmitchell74 Jada Pinkett Smith's Cabana Boy
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tohostudios King Of Kaiju
Number of posts : 30892 Age : 64
| Subject: Re: Stupid 2112 question Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:56 pm | |
| No kidding. A lot of the album themes I've figured out came thanks to an "altered mental state". I have a classic story about how a girlfriend and I spent an entire evening figuring out what was going on on Concrete Blonde's "Mexican Moon" album. Too bad I only remember about 1/4 of it but we sure had it figured out at the time. _________________ "The cat is the most ruthless, most terrifying of animals." - Spock in the "Catspaw" episode of ToS Season 2.
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XYZ Card-carrying Van Halen Freak
Number of posts : 2600 Age : 35
| Subject: Re: Stupid 2112 question Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:00 pm | |
| - DeathCult wrote:
- And kudos to xyz for posting the only Dilbert Ive ever laughed at.
You're welcome. | |
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Schbopo Ate his vegetables
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| Subject: Re: Stupid 2112 question Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:20 pm | |
| I agree with Toho, it's the Elder Race coming back to kick some ass! | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Stupid 2112 question Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:35 pm | |
| - tohostudios wrote:
- I always thought it was the "Elder Race" returning and dethroning The Priests. Check out these lyrics from The Oracle section:
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They left the planets long ago The elder race still learn and grow Their power grows with purpose strong To claim the home where they belong Home, to tear the temples down... Home, to change..
Ah! You are the man! |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Stupid 2112 question Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:37 pm | |
| - tohostudios wrote:
- No kidding. A lot of the album themes I've figured out came thanks to an "altered mental state".
I watched "Pink Floyd The Wall" once while tripping on acid, every single second made PERFECT sense, a completely revelatory experience...of course the next day I couldn't remember a damn thing I had learned from it. |
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stepcousin Heart of Metal
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| Subject: Re: Stupid 2112 question Sat Dec 13, 2008 6:18 am | |
| Dang, I wish I'd have seen this posted earlier, I wouldve said the same thing; The Elder Race comes back to claim the Home where they belong. man, Rush rules...... .....but you guys knew that already right? | |
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King D Metal novice
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| Subject: Re: Stupid 2112 question Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:30 pm | |
| Wow, I had a way more pessimistic view of that last part; I thought the bad guys won! Well, I suppose either way, it's still an awesome song. | |
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mr.electric39 Heart of Metal
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| Subject: Re: Stupid 2112 question Sat Dec 13, 2008 7:07 pm | |
| - tohostudios wrote:
- I always thought it was the "Elder Race" returning and dethroning The Priests. Check out these lyrics from The Oracle section:
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They left the planets long ago The elder race still learn and grow Their power grows with purpose strong To claim the home where they belong Home, to tear the temples down... Home, to change..
You totally nailed it. It always struck me that if the character in the story hadn't committed suicide he wouldve lived to seen the Elders return. Lessoned learned... suicide is never an option !!! see Rush's song 'The Pass'.... | |
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the sentinel Metal is Forever
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MetalH Metal master
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