The Official Metallica - Death Magnetic Thread

i am really digging this new song it sounds amazing

hell i aint even gonna pretend i knew what metallica meant to people in the eighties as i was not born till 89 but i know what metallica means to me all the same

still i am intrigued as to why people were dissapointed altough thats because i heard all the albums way after they came out

really digging the new song. sounds very complex which i like

skullkrusher wrote:

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Cliff might have been the best musician, but skill means nothing if you can't write a song. Who wrote the songs?

You show your ignorance, my friend.


Cliff Burton’s writing credits:


Fight Fire with Fire
Ride the Lightning
For Whom the Bell Tolls
Fade to Black
Creeping Death
The Call of Ktulu
Master of Puppets
Orion
Damage Inc.
To Live is to Die
(Anesthesia) Pulling Teeth

Writing credits mean nothing. That could simply be the bass lines. Did he ever written more than five complete songs?

That new song seems pretty good. Can't tell much, though, since it doesn't sound great. Plus James just isn't a great live singer. Good to see Lars doing something a bit more interesting behind the kit.

Above is the pro shot vidoe/audio of the song - I am looking forward to this album!!!

Phoenix Reign Drummer wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfms8L6lK5A Video from Ozzfest lastnight where they played one of the new songs called Cyanide (probably spelled that wrong) Not too much singing and the sound quality is a little eh but you can still hear it and its actually pretty good.

This video is a little longer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5rFjCR9NeI

Definitely not like the early stuff. It sounds like a mix of the Load/Reload stuff with a little black album mixed in.

Still gotta hear a studio version, though. It did seem a bit disjointed.

sure its not kill em all but its still pretty heavy i would say

TheGooch wrote:

sure its not kill em all but its still pretty heavy i would say

St. Anger was heavy.

Interesting. There's definitely a return to playing around with time, more complex than anything they've tried in awhile (no Bob Rock standing over their shoulder). I really like the mid-section during and right after the guitar solo.

I LIKE disjointed! It's the endless boogie-groove stuff that was driving me crazy. (don't get me wrong, I love boogie-groove, just not with Metallica doing it)

I am in the minority perhaps ?

My walking away from Metallica came before Justice was released. Guess seeing them from the inception when they were "still" an El Lay band kinda/sorta burned me out on the whole sound.

Since I havn't purchased a new Metallica lp since "Puppets". my comments regarding anything afterwards isn't appropriate due to lack of knowledge.

I havn't listened to any clips posted of the forthcoming release cause I wanna give my ears the finished product ala' virgin. I have been waiting more than 22 to give this band a second chance. An open mind and no pre-conceived notions are gonna jade my enjoyment or lack there of. Metallica is what they are now and it is a virtual impossibility for them to be what they used to be, IMHO.

I only wish them the best...

In a only interesting to me scenario...I would enjoy seeing a reunion of Dave, James, Lars, and Ron play at some seedy club somewhere on The Basin. An entire show of covers !

That song was ok... I'm with Eyesore... I'll make my final judgment on the studio release.

know what sucks not havin speakers to listen

detuned wrote:

Interesting. There's definitely a return to playing around with time, more complex than anything they've tried in awhile (no Bob Rock standing over their shoulder). I really like the mid-section during and right after the guitar solo.

I LIKE disjointed! It's the endless boogie-groove stuff that was driving me crazy. (don't get me wrong, I love boogie-groove, just not with Metallica doing it)

Disjointed works, but the sound quality of that clip is playing against it, I think.

Not too bad, I thought.

I LOVE the chorus - It's so cool - And you can hear a clear studio-version in the trailer - That, to me, has some Load-ReLoad sound to it, but it is certainly heavier, longer, and the solo blows any solo on Load/ReLoad out of the water (except for maybe the "Fuel" solo)!!

Mglaffas81 wrote:

I LOVE the chorus - It's so cool - And you can hear a clear studio-version in the trailer - That, to me, has some Load-ReLoad sound to it, but it is certainly heavier, longer, and the solo blows any solo on Load/ReLoad out of the water (except for maybe the "Fuel" solo)!!

The solo in the trailer clip is definitely sweet. But is the solo from the same song?

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Cliff Burton’s writing credits:


Fight Fire with Fire
Ride the Lightning
For Whom the Bell Tolls
Fade to Black
Creeping Death
The Call of Ktulu
Master of Puppets
Orion
Damage Inc.
To Live is to Die
(Anesthesia) Pulling Teeth

When I look at that list, it's amazing that most of my fave metallica songs are on there.

Eyesore wrote:

skullkrusher wrote:

Quote :

Cliff might have been the best musician, but skill means nothing if you can't write a song. Who wrote the songs?

You show your ignorance, my friend.


Cliff Burton’s writing credits:


Fight Fire with Fire
Ride the Lightning
For Whom the Bell Tolls
Fade to Black
Creeping Death
The Call of Ktulu
Master of Puppets
Orion
Damage Inc.
To Live is to Die
(Anesthesia) Pulling Teeth

Writing credits mean nothing. That could simply be the bass lines. Did he ever written more than five complete songs?

No, he was not credited for simply writing basslines.


Cliff Burton, a student in music theory, was largely responsible for a lot of the melodic and harmonized guitar parts found on both Master of Puppets and Ride the Lightning, which just happen to be their two best albums.


From James Hetfield himself:


On the importance of Cliff, the musical genius:
Hetfield:

We never would have written guitar harmonies or instrumentals or songs with very intricate melodies and orchestrations without Cliff. We
wouldn't be where we are today.

You have no idea what he was credited for. Cliff suggesting they do guitar harmonies is not writing a song.

I think it's definately a cross between the Black album and Reload, well at least this particular song. It's good to see Kirk back to playing solos, even if it's the same wah variety.

Eyesore wrote:

You have no idea what he was credited for. Cliff suggesting they do guitar harmonies is not writing a song.

Well if Cliff's name appears under a particular song, and the song happens to have melodic/harmonic parts to it, there's a pretty good chance it was Cliff's.


Notice that virtually every song Cliff is credited for has either melodic (acoustic or clean) parts, or harmonized guitar parts.


Here's some examples of what Cliff's contributions may have been:


Fight Fire with Fire (melodic acoustic intro/harmonized guitar bit after solo)

Ride the Lightning (harmonized guitar intro/harmonized guitar solo)

For Whom the Bell Tolls (harmonized guitar/bass intro & harmonized lead section in the middle of the song)

Fade to Black (acoustic parts/guitar harmonies in the middle and towards the end of the song)

Creeping Death (the guitar harmony which follows the last chorus)

Master of Puppets (clean & harmonized guitar middle section)

Orion (intro bass & mid-section which features bass & harmonized guitars)

Damage Inc. (intro)


And even if Cliff never picked up a six-string guitar in his life, which is
highly doubtful, but just stood around saying, "James, you play this. And
Kirk, while James is playing that, you play this." Guess what? That
means Burton wrote that particular part of the song, not James or Kirk.

Even if. What if. Guess what? None of that means a lick.

Eyesore wrote:

Even if. What if. Guess what? None of that means a lick.

Uh O someone's getting a bit flustered..

Another good quality live version of Cyanide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOVX6nMhf9A

I like it.

troublezone wrote:

I think it's definately a cross between the Black album and Reload, well at least this particular song.

Yeah, not what I was expecting after all their talk of going "old school", but still an enjoyable, preferred and welcomed sound over anything from St. Anger.