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ultmetal Administrator
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| Subject: Classic Rock...Guitar Heros Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:00 am | |
| Jimi Hendrix has been crowned "Wildest Guitar Hero" of all-time in a new poll of music lovers for influential magazine Classic Rock. The poll was compiled by votes from over 3,000 visitors to www.classicrockmagazine.com and a panel of expert music journalists.
The guitarist, who made his name in the late Sixties, with songs like "Hey Joe" and "Foxy Lady", died aged 27 in 1970, following a drug overdose. Hendrix beat ROLLING STONES legend Keith Richard into second place, while Richard's fellow Brits, Tony Iommi (BLACK SABBATH) and Jimmy Page (LED ZEPPELIN) also made the top ten. Surprisingly, THE WHO guitarist Pete Townshend and GUNS N' ROSES legend Slash failed to even make it into the top 20.
Classic Rock's 20 "Wildest Guitar Heroes":
01. Jimi Hendrix 02. Keith Richards 03. Stevie Ray Vaughan 04. Jimmy Page 05. "Dimebag" Darrell Abbott 06. Tony Iommi 07. Rory Gallagher 08. Eddie Van Halen 09. Chuck Berry 10. Kurt Cobain 11. Steve Clark 12. James Hetfield 13. Brian Jones 14. Jeff Beck 15. John Frusciante 16. Steve Jones 17. Johnny Thunders 18. Ted Nugent 19. Peter Green 20. Ace Frehley
Editor of Classic Rock, Scott Rowley, said: "There's no massive surprise in our readers voting Jimi Hendrix their wildest guitar hero of all-time. Jimi hit London in 1966 and set about terrifying guys like Clapton and Pete Townshend with his devastating technique and wired showmanship. It's a combination that's never been bettered � he redefined the term 'guitar hero' � and he made it all seem so easy.
"Singers might think that they're the real kings of rock and roll, but our poll shows that guitarists are far crazier, usually more talented and the real driving force behind the music. Every guitarist in our list turned it up to 11: putting on an unforgettable show and setting the stage alight � sometimes literally � with their presence (and a bottle of lighter fuel). That many of them are still alive after decades of over-indulgence is nothing short of a miracle."
The full rundown of the 100 "Wildest Guitar Heroes" appears in the latest issue of Classic Rock magazine, on sale Wednesday, March 7 � including a free "Legends" DVD, featuring axe heroics artists including Ritchie Blackmore, Eric Clapton, Zakk Wylde and many more!
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ultmetal Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Classic Rock...Guitar Heros Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:02 am | |
| 01. Jimi Hendrix (deserves this spot for sure!)02. Keith Richards (deserves a high spot as well.)03. Stevie Ray Vaughan (WAYYYYY OVERRATED! A good guitarist? Sure. A revolutionary? Hardly.)04. Jimmy Page (Yup, deserves to be high on the list)05. "Dimebag" Darrell Abbott (OVERRATED!!!)06. Tony Iommi (The riffmaster deserves to be here)07. Rory Gallagher (not all that familiar)08. Eddie Van Halen (yup, deserves to be higher actually. He revolutionized guitar playing in the late 70's and early 80's. Many guitarists followed. Can't believe that Dimebag received a higher spot than EVH?!?!?)09. Chuck Berry (For sure! A revolutionary guitarist for his time!)10. Kurt Cobain (Weak! This guy doesn't even deserve to be on the list. He was not a great guitarist.He may have been a good songwriter, although I say that is debatable, but he doesn't deserve to be high on any guitarist list.)11. Steve Clark (Mmmm, ok. Never thought of him as all that "wild". A good guitarist nonetheless.)12. James Hetfield (Ok. Metallica were a great band who had a lot of influence, but not so sure Hetfield deserves to be on a list of great guitarists with Jimi Hendrix and Jimmy Page.)13. Brian Jones 14. Jeff Beck (Yup! Deserves to be higher!)15. John Frusciante (Uhhhh, ok. Who?)16. Steve Jones (Errr, ok, he was wild, but he wasn't a great guitarist.) 17. Johnny Thunders (I'm not all that familiar.)18. Ted Nugent (Yes, Yes, Yes! Most certainly deserves to be higher.)19. Peter Green (A very influencial and underrated guitarist.)20. Ace Frehley (YES! Defined an era and was the inspiration for many other great guitarists to pick up their instruments, including Dimebag. Ace deserves to be up MUCH, MUCH higher in this list.)MIA:Eric Clapton (a bit overrated, but definitely a wild guitarist in the 60's with Cream.)Frank Marino (WAY underrated, although quite popular in the 1970's).
Frank Zappa (how can he NOT be on that list, while guys like Kurt Cobain are? GAK! ) Richie Blackmore (another one that I am surprised didn't make it)Uli Roth (WAYYYYY underrated and probably a better guitarist than 99% of the guitarists on this list!)Yngwie Malmsteen (Uhhhh, HELLO!!!! A great songwriter? No. A great guitarist? Absolutely! He was a revolutionary in the 80's for sure. Many, many guitarists followed him.)Randy Rhodes (a bit overrated as well, but a huge influence in the 80's and a wild guitarist for sure!)
Angus Young (there are few guitarists that are more WILD than him. Take a listen to the manic solos on any of those early albums. ANGUS! ANGUS! ANGUS!)
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MetalGuy71 Bukkake Tsunami
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| Subject: Re: Classic Rock...Guitar Heros Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:52 am | |
| That whole list is flawed in it's description of "Wildest Guitar Hero". Sure, Jimi was wild in appearance & playing ability, but honestly, has anyone ever described Tony Iommi as "wild"? Not to take anything away from the man and his accomplishments, but he just stands there on stage, playing. And Kurt Cobain? Standing still, strumming a guitar in a thrift-store sweater and Keds. Wild? Please. Wild Guitar Heroes are guys like the Nuge, Angus, even Ace with his smoking Les Paul. That list is ridiculous. | |
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ultmetal Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Classic Rock...Guitar Heros Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:13 am | |
| I think wild describes a style of play, more than stage antics. They don't really give a description of what 'wild' is. _________________ ULTIMATUM - TOO METAL FOR WIKIPEDIA!
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MetalGuy71 Bukkake Tsunami
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| Subject: Re: Classic Rock...Guitar Heros Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:31 am | |
| - ultmetal wrote:
- I think wild describes a style of play, more than stage antics. They don't really give a description of what 'wild' is.
Yea, I think you're right, but it doesn't seems like a proper title for the list. I would venture to say that in most people's mind, a "wild" guitar player would be someone like Angus Young, running around, stripping down to his boxers, etc., yet still playing great guitar. I'm not taking issue with the list of guitarists, all talented in their own right, but naming them 'wild' just seems inappropriate. Heck, in a description of 'wild' guitarists, you could argue that C.C. Deville could be named for his stage antics, yet I don't think too many people would give him a distinction of being a 'guitar hero' in the same company of the above listed. Talented players, questionable choices, bad name for a list. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Classic Rock...Guitar Heros Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:43 am | |
| How'd Cobain get on that list and Blackmore and Malmsteen didn't? |
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kmorg Metal is my Life
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| Subject: Re: Classic Rock...Guitar Heros Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:07 pm | |
| That list is gey _________________ | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Classic Rock...Guitar Heros Fri Mar 09, 2007 2:17 pm | |
| - ultmetal wrote:
- 05. "Dimebag" Darrell Abbott (OVERRATED!!!)
Well said, it's a disgrace to have hin at #5. |
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Wargod Metal is in my blood
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| Subject: Re: Classic Rock...Guitar Heros Fri Mar 09, 2007 3:19 pm | |
| 01. Jimi Hendrix, probably the first rue great guitarist. 02. Keith Richards, average at best. 03. Stevie Ray Vaughan, he deserves to be here but wild and more blues based. 04. Jimmy Page, he was great for his time but then again he was bluees based rock. 05. "Dimebag" Darrell Abbott, hmmmmm! 06. Tony Iommi, hmmmmmm! 07. Rory Gallagher, Wow another in the great line of blues based guitarists. 08. Eddie Van Halen, he belongs for the style he brought forth. 09. Chuck Berry, Hmmmm! 10. Kurt Cobain, ha ha really to funny. 11. Steve Clark, good for a short time. 12. James Hetfield, ha ha! 13. Brian Jones, more blues based influence. 14. Jeff Beck, yeah definitely. 15. John Frusciante, ok. 16. Steve Jones, ok. 17. Johnny Thunders 18. Ted Nugent, oh hell yeah Stranglehold baby! 19. Peter Green, blues based again. 20. Ace Frehley, great hard rocker. Wow they are forgetting alot. Ronnie Montrose Tommy Bolin Paul Kossoff Les Dudek Wargod48 | |
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ultmetal Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Classic Rock...Guitar Heros Fri Mar 09, 2007 3:27 pm | |
| I've never understood the obsession with SRV. I just don't think he was all that. He's a good guitarist but I see his music as just average. Guys like Gary Moore, Frank Marino & Robin Trower have a better sound and were doing the same blues based hard rock as SRV, long before SRV. _________________ ULTIMATUM - TOO METAL FOR WIKIPEDIA!
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caniplaywithmadness? Metal master
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| Subject: Re: Classic Rock...Guitar Heros Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:24 pm | |
| i'm not sure what they mean by 'wild' but i think its a way of dodgeing using the word 'best' because that immediately makes people think of technical ability rather than charisma and style. much like you could say steve vai is 'better' than jimi hendrix because vai can probably play everything hendrix has written note for note but i doubt hendrix would be able to play everything vai has written note for note. personally i'm not a fan of fancy shredders who put showing off ahead of what sounds good. ritchie blackmore is my fave guitarist | |
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KissinMaiden Metal master
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| Subject: Re: Classic Rock...Guitar Heros Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:48 pm | |
| Just having hetfield in there is funny to me. Seeing Kurt Cobain almost made my puke, and Dimebag is overrated but he does influence alot of the modern bands that are played in the mainstream today. | |
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mc666 Master Sailboat
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| Subject: Re: Classic Rock...Guitar Heros Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:09 pm | |
| meh, i don't care for any of those guys on that list. with the exception of Iommi & Halen. i was never big into the "classic rock" scene. _________________ | |
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007 Metal is my Life
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| Subject: Re: Classic Rock...Guitar Heros Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:30 pm | |
| - mc666 wrote:
- meh, i don't care for any of those guys on that list. with the exception of Iommi & Halen.
i was never big into the "classic rock" scene. I'm with you 100% | |
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stepcousin Heart of Metal
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| Subject: Re: Classic Rock...Guitar Heros Sun Mar 11, 2007 6:03 am | |
| - ultmetal wrote:
- 01. Jimi Hendrix (deserves this spot for sure!)
02. Keith Richards (deserves a high spot as well.)
03. Stevie Ray Vaughan (WAYYYYY OVERRATED! A good guitarist? Sure. A revolutionary? Hardly.)
04. Jimmy Page (Yup, deserves to be high on the list)
05. "Dimebag" Darrell Abbott (OVERRATED!!!)
06. Tony Iommi (The riffmaster deserves to be here)
07. Rory Gallagher (not all that familiar)
08. Eddie Van Halen (yup, deserves to be higher actually. He revolutionized guitar playing in the late 70's and early 80's. Many guitarists followed. Can't believe that Dimebag received a higher spot than EVH?!?!?)
09. Chuck Berry (For sure! A revolutionary guitarist for his time!)
10. Kurt Cobain (Weak! This guy doesn't even deserve to be on the list. He was not a great guitarist.He may have been a good songwriter, although I say that is debatable, but he doesn't deserve to be high on any guitarist list.)
11. Steve Clark (Mmmm, ok. Never thought of him as all that "wild". A good guitarist nonetheless.)
12. James Hetfield (Ok. Metallica were a great band who had a lot of influence, but not so sure Hetfield deserves to be on a list of great guitarists with Jimi Hendrix and Jimmy Page.)
13. Brian Jones
14. Jeff Beck (Yup! Deserves to be higher!)
15. John Frusciante (Uhhhh, ok. Who?)
16. Steve Jones (Errr, ok, he was wild, but he wasn't a great guitarist.)
17. Johnny Thunders (I'm not all that familiar.)
18. Ted Nugent (Yes, Yes, Yes! Most certainly deserves to be higher.)
19. Peter Green (A very influencial and underrated guitarist.)
20. Ace Frehley (YES! Defined an era and was the inspiration for many other great guitarists to pick up their instruments, including Dimebag. Ace deserves to be up MUCH, MUCH higher in this list.)
MIA: Eric Clapton (a bit overrated, but definitely a wild guitarist in the 60's with Cream.)
Frank Marino (WAY underrated, although quite popular in the 1970's).
Frank Zappa (how can he NOT be on that list, while guys like Kurt Cobain are? GAK! )
Richie Blackmore (another one that I am surprised didn't make it)
Uli Roth (WAYYYYY underrated and probably a better guitarist than 99% of the guitarists on this list!)
Yngwie Malmsteen (Uhhhh, HELLO!!!! A great songwriter? No. A great guitarist? Absolutely! He was a revolutionary in the 80's for sure. Many, many guitarists followed him.)
Randy Rhodes (a bit overrated as well, but a huge influence in the 80's and a wild guitarist for sure!)
Angus Young (there are few guitarists that are more WILD than him. Take a listen to the manic solos on any of those early albums. ANGUS! ANGUS! ANGUS!)
I agree about 99% with your comments and your honorable mentions, you were right on the money with all of them, and the ones you added all the way!! I disagree slightly with Randy Roads being overated, and Ace Frehley being really great. but just slightly though. Randy wasnt a great rythym player and Ace had a GREAT sound and vibe. | |
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arttieTHE1manparty Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Classic Rock...Guitar Heros Sun Mar 11, 2007 11:54 am | |
| Having Eddie that low is ridiculous. Not having Malmsteen, Vai, Vandenberg, UJ Roth, Rhoades, or Satriani on the list just shows that this has little to do with innovation or pure talent, but rather makes this a list of "who I like".
I also agree with several questions issued by you guys. What exactly made Cobain wild or great? Steve Clark was considered by many to be very sloppy and was actually not all that wild in concert (saw him 4 times).
I also think the thing with Hetfield is that he made it cool to be the rhythm player and excel at it. He also used to get fairly wild on-stage back in the 80's, though he was pretty subdued the last time I saw them.
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ultmetal Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Classic Rock...Guitar Heros Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:27 pm | |
| I personally wouldn't put guys like Vai and Satriani in a list of 'wildest' guitarists. They are technically awesome, but I don't know that I'd call their style 'wild'. It's too bad that they didn't spell out what they meant by wild.
Uli Roth for sure! He is both technical and wild. _________________ ULTIMATUM - TOO METAL FOR WIKIPEDIA!
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stepcousin Heart of Metal
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| Subject: Re: Classic Rock...Guitar Heros Sun Mar 11, 2007 8:31 pm | |
| yeah, Im not sure what they meant by "wild" either. I figured it meant good, because how "wild and crazy" a guitarist is means absolutely nothing IMO. | |
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mr.electric39 Heart of Metal
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| Subject: Re: Classic Rock...Guitar Heros Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:01 pm | |
| I would agree with all the previously made comments (except for not being into the 'classic rock' scene). Honestly these days it's hard for me to hear new players $$$$ deficiant. So I'm a bit more hesitant to take a chance. But I must wonder what makes a good guitar player ? Rythym (something many take for granted).. Flashy lead playing??? Was Schenker that flashy?? (who wasn't on the list or did I miss him)..... Innovation?? that's a good point of contention.... Was Page that innovative? SRV... ?? Dimebag?? .... Maybe it's songwriting.... I remember hearing Rudolph Schenker say "I knew I wasn't the best guitar player so I really wanted to be known as a very good composer." it does in many ways boil down to a popularity contest.... oh well..... not to be totally philosophical.... It's only Rock N Roll.... So where was Alex Lifeson ?!?!?!??!?!?!?!? | |
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stepcousin Heart of Metal
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| Subject: Re: Classic Rock...Guitar Heros Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:05 pm | |
| I agree on the Lifeson^^^, although he isnt really "wild", he certainly was great. | |
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TH Joe Metal graduate
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| Subject: Re: Classic Rock...Guitar Heros Mon Mar 12, 2007 1:09 am | |
| Dude! No Clapton? How did SRV make this list without him? Frank Zappa was a genius and as wild as one can get! Where's he? Can you even consider Steve Jones to be a guitar player, at all? John Frusciante shouldn't be anywhere near this list. Same goes for Kurt Cobain. Oh yeah! Where's Ritchie Blackmore? He, pretty much, single-handedly invented using classical music in hard rock guitar. Uli Roth, Randy Rhoads, Yngwie, etc. may not have done what they did without Ritchie doin' it first. C'mon! I'm done now | |
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stepcousin Heart of Metal
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| Subject: Re: Classic Rock...Guitar Heros Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:40 am | |
| I totally agree on the Richie Blackmore^^^. | |
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INVADERS Metal master
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| Subject: Re: Classic Rock...Guitar Heros Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:07 pm | |
| I wouldn't say dimebag is overrated he deserves as much respect as the other, in my book but i suppose each to their own | |
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ultmetal Administrator
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stepcousin Heart of Metal
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| Subject: Re: Classic Rock...Guitar Heros Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:36 pm | |
| Ive been on a Pink Floyd kick lately so I gotta ask: Why is David Gilmour nowhere to be found anywhere on here, even by myself included? I suppose he was anything but "wild" but the man has played some of the greatest guitar solos ever. Check out the solo on "Comfortably Numb", unbelievable! | |
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