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PostSubject: Stratovarious breaks up   Stratovarious breaks up Icon_minitimeFri Apr 04, 2008 8:31 am

STRATOVARIUS mainman Timo Tolkki has issued the following statement:

"It is time to stop the silence and announce what some of you have already been speculating. STRATOVARIUS is no more.

"Last October I told the guys that I am stopping the band and told them the reasons why.

"This letter is addressed to you, STRATOVARIUS fans, who have supported the band for so many years.

"I first thought that I would write just a very generelized, typical
'music business' statement that basically never says anything. Then I
decided that you deserve to hear at least parts of the truth what has
been going on behind the scenes so you will be able to understand my
decision better.

"All the time, since Timo Kotipelto [vocals] and Jörg [Michael, drums]
joined the band, there have been tensions and negativity flying around.
This has been concentrating on me, Timo Kotipelto and Jörg.

"The reasons Jari Kainulainen [bass] was fired some years back were so
absurd that I am not even try to explain them here. If I write a book
one day, maybe then.

"Anyways, I think the seeds were planted already back then, something
like 12 years ago. There were many confrontations, Jörg has been
complaining to me about Timo Kotipelto and Timo Kotipelto complaining
to me about Jörg. At a times it was a mess, although of course, it
never would show outside to the fans.

"It is not my intention to disrespect Timo Kotipelto and Jörg here.
They are both fundamentally good guys. Things just sometimes happen and
relationships go to directions we don't want them to go. It's like a
divorce, nobody wants it to happen but sometimes it is best for all so
everyone can continue their own lives. Plus I want to tell how things
have been behind the curtains. You always only see the good side
anyway, you don't really know what is going on.

"We had amazing years, 14 records, 6 world tours with over a thousand
shows all across the globe, 3 gold discs, a Finnish Grammy and almost 3
million records sold.

"I have arrived to my decision after careful, long and rational
thinking of over a year and I know it is the right way for me. I just
felt so bad being in STRATOVARIUS. Something was terribly wrong in
there and nobody seemed to care.

"The countdown really started from the last STRATOVARIUS album in 2005.
At that time the atmosphere in the band was extremely weird. I had
spent most of 2004 recovering from my nervous breakdown in April 2004
when I was hospitalized. It was at this point when things started to
change. Jens [Johansson, keyboards] supported me immensely during 2004
with his phone calls. We then did that 'Stratovarius' album, which I
think is an awful album and went for the subsequent tour production. By
that time it was apparent to me that things really were bad. Nobody
seemed to care about anything. I had the idea to use projection screens
and for that, you need to produce graphics. I planned those and
basically the whole show. Nobody seemed to have any interest in it. It
was more like, the less the better. The atmosphere at the rehearsals
was awful. Lauri Porra [bass] who had just joined the band was
wondering what is going on with this band. Jörg Michael came straight
from SAXON to this tour wearing a SAXON shirt during most of the shows.
His attitude for most of the tour was extremely arrogant, pretty much
towards everybody. But especially towards me and Timo Kotipelto. And
Timo Kotipelto's attitude towards me was lukewarm and polite, but I
could sense the hostility. Of course, we as professionals put on very
good shows but it was more craftmanship and rehearsed performance than
a great united band playing emotionally from the heart.

"I think Timo Kotipelto was always very bitter about that he could not
get his songs and/or lyrics on STRATO records. I did not understand
this really 'cause he had/has his solo band where he could do what he
wanted. It took me many years to learn to simply tell him that I don't
like his songwriting and lyrics and that the main difference between me
and him is that I am writing songs that end up being STRATO songs while
he is trying to write STRATO songs that end up being KOTIPELTO songs,
which means they belong on a KOTIPELTO record.

"It is not easy to say to someone that you don't like his music. You
guys and girls dont like all music, neither do I. Neither does Timo
Kotipelto.

"I am not anyone to tell what is good and what is bad music, but I do
can tell what kind of music I like. And Timo Kotipelto's stuff just
doesn't do it for me.

"I do have to say that I think he has written many great songs as well
during his solo career. Plus he probably would say the same things
about my songwriting. We are just very different. He has a very
different sense of humor than I have.

"Maybe the weirdest thing in STRATO was that we never really were
friends in the band. I visited Timo Kotipelto in 12 years perhaps 5
times. To me Jens was the closest in the band and lately Lauri Porra,
who is a wonderful guy. But none of use was really ever real friends.
It might be surprising to you but that is the truth.

"The tour continued and Jörg's drum roadie told me drunk that Jörg is
leaving the band after the tour but he is doing the tour 'cause 'he is
a businessman.' I guess you could say that Jörg's attitude pretty much
culminated what he said to me in Seattle on that tour. He told me that
he thinks the band is over. We tried to record, third time, a live DVD
in Sao Paulo but could not use the shootings because we played so
badly. It was just plain awful. Although we rocked lot of crowds on
that 120-date world tour, still the overall vibe was very much like
'going to work.' Not for me though. Not still at that point. But it
felt to me that nobody's heart was in the band and it was just for the
money.

"The tour came and went, we survived and Jörg didn't leave the band.
But it was the weirdest tour I have ever done. Very successful, but
still it felt like forcing something. It was not fun. It was sad.

"The next thing I had in mind was to write a really fresh good old
fashioned power metal album in the vein of 'Visions'. I felt our fans
deserved it and I felt it was the right thing to do. This was the
infamous 'RR' album. The songwriting was flowing and the songs sounded
really nice and melodic and very much like old STRATO. I was all the
time on my toes because of the situation in the band and I was
anticipating difficult recording sessions.

"Anyways in late 2006 we completed a demo tape containing 10 brand new
songs. I wasn't too happy about the demo, but it did serve its purpose,
to present the songs to the record company. I then booked 12 days from
Sonic Pump studio in Helsinki for March 2007. This was the weirdest
session I had ever had. Jörg was all the time talking about that we
have to get the 'Visions hunger' back, although I don't think he
himself had that hunger. Nobody had. The session was nothing like the
recording sessions before. Nobody had rehearsed the songs really and
everything sounded pretty awful. I tweaked the drum tracks for a week
and gave up. It was around this point when I really was starting to
think why am I keeping this alive when it's so difficult. I remember
how much time, energy and money we put to 'Elements 1'. There was
nowhere to go after that anymore without just repeating the past. I do
know that Timo Kotipelto didn't like that album at all, which yet again
shows the difference between him me. It doesn't mean that he has to
like it of course, but to me 'Elements 1' represents the peak of the
STRATO evolution and perhaps I should have stopped the band already
then.

"Last year, 2007, was the turning point for me in many ways. I felt
better, but regarding STRATO I felt worse. There were fights about
everything, even about trivialities, which really annoyed me. A lot of
fights. A lot. I had to use a lot of energy to try to get merch to
Stratoshop, which was on the shoulders of Jörg and Timo Kotipelto,
because there was no merch for people to order but still they were
ordering cause the items were on the page. The SSL certificate that
proves the site is secure was expired a year ago, I tried to get that
fixed, could not do it because I wasn't authorized to do so. The most
popular items from the shop were sold out and Jörg refused to print
more. I could not understand any of the things that were going on. At
the same time, I was having more fun than in years with my rock opera
'Saana'. When I was making that, I realized what was lacking in STRATO:
the enthusiasm, creativity and fun. It wasn't like that in years.
'Saana' gave me hope that there still could be something new for me to
learn at this age and it gave me a whole new world of things and a
start for something new. Plus I knew I had some really cool new metal
songs in the works.

"We did have 8 festival shows during 2007 and it was then, when I was
standing on stage in Wacken, Germany before 45,000 metalheads when I
fully realized that this band is over. I remember clearly playing those
same old songs we had played so many times before and a feeling came to
me that told me: this band has no soul anymore. I looked around and I
felt like I am part of a play that has a script or machine and that
there is nothing fresh and exciting happening anymore. The band sounds
awful. Nobody's heart was in it. It was just the same old song. Jörg
worked at this point full time in artist production company doing tour
managing and he was working at Wacken too. He literally came to play
from production office and returned there after. Everybody was polite,
on the surface, but there was no friendship, all I could sense were the
underlying tensions of relatioships that had come to an end. I had felt
during that year that the band existed only for one reason and that was
the money. I had felt that this was the main motivation what kept Jörg
and Timo Kotipelto in the band still despite of the underlying
tensions. While standing on Wacken stage to my absolute horror, I
understood that also for me that had now become a reality. I was
keeping this alive for money. It was then when I decided that I must
stop the band.

"So it was during this show, I decided that it's over. I was still
thinking about everything but I felt that for my future, it was the
only logical thing to do. I did not want to fire Timo Kotipelto and
Jörg because they are and have been as much part of STRATO as I have
been and it would not be fair to the fans. I then decided that it is
best to lay rest what is already dead. I informed guys by email in
October 2008 about my decision and explained in detail my reasons
hoping they would see my points and agree what is real. Only Jens and
Lauri answered. Timo Kotipelto and Jörg did not even answer to that
mail. Jens understood my decision, Lauri did not. I understand him, he
got a taste of what it is to be in a succesful rock band touring the
world. It is not easy to give that up. He did fail to see my side of
the story. That Timo Kotipelto and Jörg did not comment anything really
speaks for itself. I did want to finish the STRATOVARIUS saga with
style and naive as I am, in February 2008 I wrote a mail to the band
and proposed that we would say goodbye to our fans with style and do
one more tour. I won't go into details here, but this time I did get a
response from Timo Kotipelto and Jörg. I wished them well and wrote
back that I can see there cannot be any more tours with this band
because of the hostile reactions. So that was that. I felt good about
my decision, but not good that out of legal reasons I have had to wait
for this announcement for so long.

"Then I thought that since I have all these great songs in my hands, I
wanna put these out somehow. So I contacted a few friends, we laid the
basic tracks in the same place where the STRATO 'RR' session had taken
place a year ago and it was just flowing. There was happiness. There
was energy. The songs sounded great. My friends Michael Kiske and
Tobias Sammet agreed to sing on the album. I decided to form a new band
called 'REVOLUTION RENAISSANCE' which would continue the legacy of
STRATOVARIUS. In this first album I just wanted to release these songs
finally so I did not have time to search for a permanent line up. I am
now, so if you are interested, drop me a mail!

"The album comes out 6.6.2008 through Frontiers Records.

"I am excited and happy…for the first time in years. I can hardly wait
what the destiny has in store for me with my new band, projects,
songwriting. I am living a very creative times. I have my production
company and I am doing lots of different projects and not only metal
but basically anything that moves me.

"First I would like to, despite of all, thank Jörg, Timo Kotipelto,
Jens, Jari, Lauri, Tuomo, Antti and Jyrki for these 22 years. It was a
quite a ride. I wish Jens, Timo Kotipelto, Jörg and Lauri the very best
with whatever they decide to do in their life and success with it.

"Last but most importantly, I want to thank you STRATOVARIUS fans for
your love and support and for the great life. We will be seeing each
other in some ways, somewhere. You will always remain in my heart."


BUMMER!!
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PostSubject: Re: Stratovarious breaks up   Stratovarious breaks up Icon_minitimeFri Apr 04, 2008 8:42 am

Shawn Of Fire wrote:
https://heartofmetal.niceboard.com/heart-of-metal-f1/revolution-renaissance-what-about-strato
varius-t4795.htm





- That's not about Stratovarious breaking up - And I did a search, and there was not one post with "Stratovarious" in it.
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PostSubject: Re: Stratovarious breaks up   Stratovarious breaks up Icon_minitimeFri Apr 04, 2008 9:09 am

can we have an abstract?
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PostSubject: Re: Stratovarious breaks up   Stratovarious breaks up Icon_minitimeFri Apr 04, 2008 9:13 am

Wow. That totaly sucks smurf poo man.
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PostSubject: Re: Stratovarious breaks up   Stratovarious breaks up Icon_minitimeFri Apr 04, 2008 10:45 am

syrus wrote:
can we have an abstract?


huh?
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PostSubject: Re: Stratovarious breaks up   Stratovarious breaks up Icon_minitimeFri Apr 04, 2008 10:46 am

One less power metal band in the world.

My plan has begun........
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PostSubject: Re: Stratovarious breaks up   Stratovarious breaks up Icon_minitimeFri Apr 04, 2008 10:50 am

spectrefate wrote:
One less power metal band in the world.

My plan has begun........




..you are mean!! Evil or Very Mad
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PostSubject: Re: Stratovarious breaks up   Stratovarious breaks up Icon_minitimeFri Apr 04, 2008 10:50 am

...but I always mean well.
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PostSubject: Re: Stratovarious breaks up   Stratovarious breaks up Icon_minitimeFri Apr 04, 2008 10:56 am

My link was in relation...sorry for the lack of clarity on my part.

Kotipelto always grated my nerves vocally, so no big loss...
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PostSubject: Re: Stratovarious breaks up   Stratovarious breaks up Icon_minitimeFri Apr 04, 2008 11:12 am

That's too bad. I honestly just started listening to these guys about a year ago and was really digging the 6 or 7 cd's I have of thiers. Oh, well.
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PostSubject: Re: Stratovarious breaks up   Stratovarious breaks up Icon_minitimeSat Apr 05, 2008 5:59 pm

I never got into this band.
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PostSubject: Re: Stratovarious breaks up   Stratovarious breaks up Icon_minitimeSat Apr 05, 2008 8:34 pm

Quote :
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sign WOO HOO! sign

spectrefate wrote:
One less power metal band in the world.

My plan has begun........
Yep, the only good powerprognoodlewankermetal band is a DEAD powerprognoodlewankermetal band! Twisted Evil
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Trog, I think you just invented yet another new genre sub-division. Congratulations!

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PostSubject: Re: Stratovarious breaks up   Stratovarious breaks up Icon_minitimeSun Apr 06, 2008 3:50 am

Yet another reason to do the poop dance! sign
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PostSubject: Re: Stratovarious breaks up   Stratovarious breaks up Icon_minitimeSun Apr 06, 2008 5:47 am

I think it's sag that Stratovarius is gone, but I think it is good that Timo lays it to rest rather than to go on with a new line-up.

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PostSubject: Re: Stratovarious breaks up   Stratovarious breaks up Icon_minitimeSun Apr 06, 2008 5:47 am

Mglaffas81 wrote:
Shawn Of Fire wrote:
https://heartofmetal.niceboard.com/heart-of-metal-f1/revolution-renaissance-what-about-strato
varius-t4795.htm





- That's not about Stratovarious breaking up - And I did a search, and there was not one post with "Stratovarious" in it.

That's because there is no band named Stratovarious.

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PostSubject: Re: Stratovarious breaks up   Stratovarious breaks up Icon_minitimeSun Apr 06, 2008 7:31 pm

I want Stratovarius back.. Sad Sad Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Stratovarious breaks up   Stratovarious breaks up Icon_minitimeSun Apr 06, 2008 11:18 pm

kmorg wrote:
I think it's sag that Stratovarius is gone
Yes, you're right. It is sag. Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Stratovarious breaks up   Stratovarious breaks up Icon_minitimeMon Apr 07, 2008 6:45 am

nevermore wrote:
I never got into this band.

Don't let one bad audition stop you from pursuing your dream.
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