Yeah, what kind've knob came up with that idea of the silence and then the "surprise" hidden track(s)? Even the ones that are before track 1 are kind've annoying (but not as annoying as having to FF through 11 minutes of silence!) 2 not mentioned here are the before track 1 hidden tracks on Satyricon's "Rebel Extravaganza"(creepy martial-type introduction) and Funeral Procession's ST (it's actually a pretty true Darkthrone cover). Also, the Finnish band Fragile Hollow has, not "99 tracks of silence leading out to a bonus track", but about 77 ten-second tracks of the same riff that ended the "last" song on their "Effete Mind" album that ultimately leads up to only the slight crescendo of that song's end! Talk about ANNOYING to someone who likes to listen to multi-discs on shuffle!!!!!!! Probably the FAVOURITE hidden track of mine was actually a backward message on one of Overkill's early records, that when you played it backward said something like "there's no hidden message here......you're going to ruin your needle, a**hole!" HAH!