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PostSubject: What a difference 20 or so years make?   What a difference 20 or so years make? Icon_minitimeMon Jul 20, 2020 9:41 am

In 2001, we were told to not hold the entire Muslim Faith accountable for the actions of the millions worldwide that are radicalized.

In 2020, we are told to hold the entire police force accountable for the actions of less than 1/10th of 1% of the over 850,000 officers employed In the USA. In 2019, 19 unarmed black people were killed by police in the hundred of thousands of contact officers made with the public in the same year nationally.

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Yep, that’s the world we live in now. Hypocrisy at its finest. No one is to be held accountable for their actions but things that happened 200 yrs ago we’re suppose to be sorry for.

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19 humans in 2019 might have a different opinion. Just thank whatever higher power you subscribe to that you are white. And your ancestors that came to these shores had the technology they did. You can thank them for the ability to shove a Hot Pocket into the microwave and force it down your spawns throats without the thoughts that the boys in blue don't beat down your door while you do. I get it guys. Your "stats" tell the whole story. Just 19 unarmed black men? Shit. I guess American Peace Officers have nothing to be accountable for. Pretty sure those "hundreds of thousands of police contacts" were by the book, no hate spread in any of them, no...harm...done. I do get it though, guys. Let's throw a stat out there. DIG NO DEEPER.
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And, yes, Thrashy. You need to feel remorse. Especially from the part of the country you so proudly reside in. Or, at least, make your community better race-wise. You got that power. Can't bring back Grand-Pappy to do it. Or, do you believe that is not something worthwhile of your time?
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I feel remorse for the actions of the entire human race.
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UNCLE SAXON'S KICKASS CDS wrote:
And, yes, Thrashy.  You need to feel remorse.  Especially from the part of the country you so proudly reside in.  Or, at least, make your community better race-wise.  You got that power.  Can't bring back Grand-Pappy to do it.  Or, do you believe that is not something worthwhile of your time?
Why single him out? Do you feel remorse for something you didn't do? For all the people that do, I fee l sorry for. For the ones still angry because their ancestors were slaves, I feel sorry for. Living in the past is stupid and a waste of energy. The world won't change until both sides stop doing that. Some black dude wants to stay angry at the white race for whatever reason, isn't ok and should be looked at no differently than if some skinhead hating black people. It's bullshit plain and simple.
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Both are an over simplification of a more complex issues, most people understand most Muslims and most cops are not bad, just like most Christians and civilians are not bad.
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UNCLE SAXON'S KICKASS CDS wrote:
19 humans in 2019 might have a different opinion.  Just thank whatever higher power you subscribe to that you are white.  And your ancestors that came to these shores had the technology they did.  You can thank them for the ability to shove a Hot Pocket into the microwave and force it down your spawns throats without the thoughts that the boys in blue don't beat down your door while you do.  I get it guys.  Your "stats" tell the whole story.  Just 19 unarmed black men?  Shit.  I guess American Peace Officers have nothing to be accountable for.  Pretty sure those "hundreds of thousands of police contacts" were by the book, no hate spread in any of them, no...harm...done.  I do get it though, guys.  Let's throw a stat out there.  DIG NO DEEPER.

1) My reference to those 19 people were fact not opinion. In almost all 19 deaths, they either resisted arrest or were threatening other people, so he's there is another side to that statistic.
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2) Saying someone should be thankful cause of their skin color is a total superiority complex on your part, it is telling another human that your thought process is better and assuming they actually think they are better than anyone else in the first place.
3) I've had the police kick in my door, multiple times, guess what? I was doing or had done something illegal.
4) yes police need to be held accountable. Just like everyone else. How about the politicians in Minneapolis/St.Paul that allowed a bunch of "peaceful protesters" to cause tens of millions of dollars in damages, ruined the lives of many small business owners?
5) Let's dig deeper on some stats... 2019- Over 300,000 black babies aborted, seems like genocide to me. In 2019, 9% of the U.S. Population (black males 18 to 35) committed over 50% of the homicides. An overwhelming majority was black on black. Where is the warcry for those murdered in the inner cities? Let's defy d the gangbangers!
6)Since the George (Kirby) Floyd began, 17 unarmed black people were killed by.BLM/Antics "peaceful protesters". Guarantee you won't see any of the children's names snickered on NFL helmets this season. Just criminals, Black Lives Matter my @$$.

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I believe BLM is a false narrative for a radical left Marxist agenda. I’m certain George Soros is funding hordes of antifa vandals and antagonists. Many black people have gone on record speaking out against these random whites that are arriving from out of town that are obviously there to vandalize and destroy cop cars and businesses. They said these antifa types are there to make the true protesters look bad. Piles of brand new bricks were being conveniently provided in the middle of the streets. I believe these radical left marxists are using the emotions of the black people to do their bidding. The funds and donations to BLM are funneled to ActBlue (a fundraiser for left leaning causes or a political campaign). You would think any money donated would go directly to the black community! If anyone did a little research, it’s easy to see it’s not what people think it is. And the four founding members of BLM are self admitted militant lesbian feminists. That’s strange leadership for a black cause... you would think at least one black male would be involved.

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As far as ancestors go, my grandmother was born in Ireland and my grandfather in Norway. So why should my family and millions more like mine currently living in the USA be accountable and/or shamed for something they didn't have anything to with?

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As far as ancestors go, my grandmother was born in Ireland and my grandfather in Norway. So why should my family and millions more like mine currently living in the USA be accountable and/or shamed for something they didn't have anything to with?

You know the answer. It’s by default because you’re white. They don’t care about facts or details. They do the same with Christianity... we modern Christians are responsible for the actions of the medieval Crusaders 500 years ago. TheKing
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UNCLE SAXON'S KICKASS CDS wrote:
And, yes, Thrashy.  You need to feel remorse.  Especially from the part of the country you so proudly reside in.  Or, at least, make your community better race-wise.  You got that power.  Can't bring back Grand-Pappy to do it.  Or, do you believe that is not something worthwhile of your time?

My ancestors were native Americans so I want reparations! They got screwed big time.See how this cycle goes? We need to remember history or we’re destined to repeat it.
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UNCLE SAXON'S KICKASS CDS wrote:
And, yes, Thrashy.  You need to feel remorse.  Especially from the part of the country you so proudly reside in.  Or, at least, make your community better race-wise.  You got that power.  Can't bring back Grand-Pappy to do it.  Or, do you believe that is not something worthwhile of your time?

My ancestors were native Americans so I want reparations! They got screwed big time.See how this cycle goes? We need to remember history or we’re destined to repeat it.

To quote the late Ed McMahon... You are correct sir!
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Well hell, my grandfather was part German, I guess I should really feel most guilty about the holocaust. Damn me! Damn me to hell!!!!!!!!!!
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Well hell, my grandfather was part German, I guess I should really feel most guilty about the holocaust. Damn me! Damn me to hell!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, my Moms side is German and my Dads side is Native American. I’m really screwed! Lol!
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Man - I have stayed away simply because of the ignorance that started this thread. But...you know I cannot shut up. I will only say this - and it is MY perspective, opinion, and understanding as an extreme liberal from a large city that has seen a lot of hate. This post is exactly what your dreamsickle wants to be spread. It has nothing to do with love, tolerance, or acceptance. I am guilty of all that as well. I am not the omnipotent all knowing one. Just a part of a huge minority on this board that grew up so much differently than you have. My upbringing was surrounded by domestic violence til I sprang the coop at 14. The punk flophouses were my schooling. First ave, Fernandos, Ryans, Spanky's, Uptown and every where the nazis showed up to take a well earned boot to the head, were my real life experiences. December 23 last year, I fought a cop in Augusta, Wi. For that I am trapped in this shithole. In 1986, the pigs raped, murdered, and threw my exgirlfriend into the Mississippi river. They fished her broken and battered and sexually violated body out of the Saint Anthony dam. She had just a baby 6 weeks earlier. Between 1986 and now, I have had a ton of bad life experiences that only feeds my rage. Some my fault, but, MOST, and I mean that, not my fault. Circumstance. Bad actors. Evil, greedy motherfuckers. So, I will always speak my mind - on this board, in the streets, where ever. Dig it or don't. I know my tone can be grating.

But, I will say this. I am wrong to place a coverall on certain areas of America, certain religions, and my own perspective of the South, etc. "Stats" will back up by perspectives. But, that don't mean I need to think of all of you in those places as being Jim Crow or believing in what a lot of you were handed down. I am sorry for that. I am accountable for my own ignorance.
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BTW? I am half German/Half Russian. Just me, but I do feel some guilt for my ancestors. That guilt drives me. Drives me to be more open minded and tolerant than the crap that got tossed around my Christian household as a youth.
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UNCLE SAXON'S KICKASS CDS wrote:
BTW?  I am half German/Half Russian.  Just me, but I do feel some guilt for my ancestors.  That guilt drives me.  Drives me to be more open minded and tolerant than the crap that got tossed around my Christian household as a youth.

I'm a mutt myself, part German for sure, maybe French, and possibly Romanian or Russian. Need to do one of those family tree things to figure it out. I still don't feel guilty though. I just think if the USA was the only country to use slaves, then I might feel something like guilt. But slavery was around thousands of years longer than this country was ever discovered, and it's time to move on and get over it. I'm all for equality, and yes I understand that blacks up until not so long ago haven't been treated as equal. So I understand the anger to a point, but even still it's time to get over it and move on.

I could go on, but it would take too long for me to make my point and I'm too tired right now. I just wish people would step back, take a breath and realize who the real enemy is.
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UNCLE SAXON'S KICKASS CDS wrote:
BTW?  I am half German/Half Russian.  Just me, but I do feel some guilt for my ancestors.  That guilt drives me.  Drives me to be more open minded and tolerant than the crap that got tossed around my Christian household as a youth.

I'm a mutt myself, part German for sure, maybe French, and possibly Romanian or Russian. Need to do one of those family tree things to figure it out. I still don't feel guilty though. I just think if the USA was the only country to use slaves, then I might feel something like guilt. But slavery was around thousands of years longer than this country was ever discovered, and it's time to move on and get over it. I'm all for equality, and yes I understand that blacks up until not so long ago haven't been treated as equal. So I understand the anger to a point, but even still it's time to get over it and move on.

I could go on, but it would take too long for me to make my point and I'm too tired right now. I just wish people would step back, take a breath and realize who the real enemy is.

Wrecky. Would love to know what you do to make money to feed your kin, pay the electric bill, maybe save a little summin summin for the kids future. Now....even without knowing what you do....I can assure myself that that you work for a corporation. Maybe, a mega-corporation, to shove vittles on the table. Ever felt management was not treating you correct? Maybe, even not HUMAN? No - no stripes across your back, but, maybe you felt that metaphorically? If you wanna move on from that, and show the next generation that they should also bow down to the slave masters that come next? I cannot tell you what to do man. I don't even know your real name.
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I'm a truck driver. It's a large company, one of the biggest I guess. Not really sure where we rank honestly. Far as management treating me like a human goes, not really. It's a hardnosed bullshit line of work, and all we are is a number. It's funny you say how down to the slave masters. I have made it very clear to all my masters that I bow to no one. And because we are union, they can't really do shit to me. My immediate supervisor is chomping at the bit for me to go off one day and get myself fired, but I'll see her gone before I ever give her that satisfaction. Funny th i g us, we have the power over them for the most part, and they can't stand it.

Name is Dwayne. Wink
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Man - I have stayed away simply because of the ignorance that started this thread.  But...you know I cannot shut up.  I will only say this - and it is MY perspective, opinion, and understanding as an extreme liberal from a large city that has seen a lot of hate.  This post is exactly what your dreamsickle wants to be spread.  It has nothing to do with love, tolerance, or acceptance.  I am guilty of all that as well.  I am not the omnipotent all knowing one.  Just a part of a huge minority on this board that grew up so much differently than you have.  My upbringing was surrounded by domestic violence til I sprang the coop at 14.  The punk flophouses were my schooling.  First ave, Fernandos, Ryans, Spanky's, Uptown and every where the nazis showed up to take a well earned boot to the head, were my real life experiences.  December 23 last year, I fought a cop in Augusta, Wi.  For that I am trapped in this shithole.  In 1986, the pigs raped, murdered, and threw my exgirlfriend into the Mississippi river.  They fished her broken and battered and sexually violated body out of the Saint Anthony dam.  She had just a baby 6 weeks earlier.  Between 1986 and now, I have had a ton of bad life experiences that only feeds my rage.  Some my fault, but, MOST, and I mean that, not my fault.  Circumstance.  Bad actors.  Evil, greedy motherfuckers.  So, I will always speak my mind - on this board, in the streets, where ever.  Dig it or don't.  I know my tone can be grating.

But, I will say this.  I am wrong to place a coverall on certain areas of America, certain religions, and my own perspective of the South, etc.  "Stats" will back up by perspectives.  But, that don't mean I need to think of all of you in those places as being Jim Crow or believing in what a lot of you were handed down.  I am sorry for that.  I am accountable for my own ignorance.

John we all have baggage, I grew up in an Outlaw biker household in Southern,California, so I have experienced violence and brutality towards my immediate family from rival clubs to law enforcement. Spent time in the California Youth Authority/Department of Corrections and have Aryan Brotherhood tattoos (now covered up) My pregnant fiancee was murdered by a drink driver in Arlington, Tx. by a sitting City Council member who was not prosecuted. I was tossed in small exercise yards with members of either black, mexican, or Asian gangs while guards get on who's win. I could go on and on, the point being... Don't let that crap define you. Use it to make you better. I love you brother

By the way ignorance is subjective. Hate or love has nothing to do with anything. People have been through what you have and what I have, turning out like you or turning out like me is not automatic, so calling others ignorant is a cop out.

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UNCLE SAXON'S KICKASS CDS wrote:
Man - I have stayed away simply because of the ignorance that started this thread.  But...you know I cannot shut up.  I will only say this - and it is MY perspective, opinion, and understanding as an extreme liberal from a large city that has seen a lot of hate.  This post is exactly what your dreamsickle wants to be spread.  It has nothing to do with love, tolerance, or acceptance.  I am guilty of all that as well.  I am not the omnipotent all knowing one.  Just a part of a huge minority on this board that grew up so much differently than you have.  My upbringing was surrounded by domestic violence til I sprang the coop at 14.  The punk flophouses were my schooling.  First ave, Fernandos, Ryans, Spanky's, Uptown and every where the nazis showed up to take a well earned boot to the head, were my real life experiences.  December 23 last year, I fought a cop in Augusta, Wi.  For that I am trapped in this shithole.  In 1986, the pigs raped, murdered, and threw my exgirlfriend into the Mississippi river.  They fished her broken and battered and sexually violated body out of the Saint Anthony dam.  She had just a baby 6 weeks earlier.  Between 1986 and now, I have had a ton of bad life experiences that only feeds my rage.  Some my fault, but, MOST, and I mean that, not my fault.  Circumstance.  Bad actors.  Evil, greedy motherfuckers.  So, I will always speak my mind - on this board, in the streets, where ever.  Dig it or don't.  I know my tone can be grating.

But, I will say this.  I am wrong to place a coverall on certain areas of America, certain religions, and my own perspective of the South, etc.  "Stats" will back up by perspectives.  But, that don't mean I need to think of all of you in those places as being Jim Crow or believing in what a lot of you were handed down.  I am sorry for that.  I am accountable for my own ignorance.

John we all have baggage, I grew up in an Outlaw biker household in Southern,California, so I have experienced violence and brutality towards my immediate family from rival clubs to law enforcement. Spent time in the California Youth Authority/Department of Corrections and have Aryan Brotherhood tattoos (now covered up) My pregnant fiancee was murdered by a drink driver in Arlington, Tx. by a sitting City Council member who was not prosecuted. I was tossed in small exercise yards with members of either black, mexican, or Asian gangs while guards get on who's win. I could go on and on, the point being... Don't let that crap define you. Use it to make you better. I love you brother

By the way ignorance is subjective. Hate or love has nothing to do with anything.  People have been through what you have and what I have, turning out like you or turning out like me is not automatic, so calling others ignorant is a cop out.

This is a frivolous question... but what biker gang did you grow up around? I’m assuming the Hells Angels because you’re from the San Bernardino area.
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This is a frivolous question... but what biker gang did you grow up around? I’m assuming the Hells Angels because you’re from the San Bernardino area.

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Troublezone wrote:
This is a frivolous question... but what biker gang did you grow up around? I’m assuming the Hells Angels because you’re from the San Bernardino area.

Correct

I live a couple miles from the home of the leader of the Set Free Soldiers in Anaheim. And within the years I lived and visited San Bernardino, I’ve seen the Vagos on more than one occasion. You probably could write a book about the things you’ve seen. Smile
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