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I dont think there is anyone on the roster that would be good booking against Lesnar. Even if Goldberg were back in the WWE I dont think it would be a great match.


Kevin Owens, AJ Styles, Samoa Joe and Nakamura would all be great.

Samo Joe and Lesnar would be an amazing mean guy match. KO is great in anything.  AJ Styles makes everyone look like a million bucks and would be great in a face role against Brock.  Nakamura has an MMA background and is the King of Strong Style and has more charisma then the entire roster put together times 10.  He and Brock could definitely go toe to toe.

So there are options, but they probably won't pursue any of them.

Samoa Joe would be good i didnt think of that one. I dont think Owens and AJ Styles are even in the same league as Lesnar. If they didnt make Big Show so dopey a Big Show vs Lesnar would be good too, afterall he's beaten Lesnar before

What do you mean by KO and Styles not being in the same league as Brock? Do you think that those guys aren't believable opponents for Brock? Just wondering.
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This was pretty cool even if it was a "work".

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I dont think there is anyone on the roster that would be good booking against Lesnar. Even if Goldberg were back in the WWE I dont think it would be a great match.


Kevin Owens, AJ Styles, Samoa Joe and Nakamura would all be great.

Samo Joe and Lesnar would be an amazing mean guy match. KO is great in anything.  AJ Styles makes everyone look like a million bucks and would be great in a face role against Brock.  Nakamura has an MMA background and is the King of Strong Style and has more charisma then the entire roster put together times 10.  He and Brock could definitely go toe to toe.

So there are options, but they probably won't pursue any of them.

Samoa Joe would be good i didnt think of that one. I dont think Owens and AJ Styles are even in the same league as Lesnar. If they didnt make Big Show so dopey a Big Show vs Lesnar would be good too, afterall he's beaten Lesnar before

What do you mean by KO and Styles not being in the same league as Brock?  Do you think that those guys aren't believable opponents for Brock?  Just wondering.

I dont think its believeable that AJ styles cant beat Lesnar, I mean look at Lesnar he's a beast! while It doesnt mean he's invinicble by any mean, the same with KO I personally believe KO is over hyped. AJ Styles i only know from his TNA days but in the end its all on how its written. Even the Undertaker isn't in his league, More like Lesnar is in the Undertaker's league.

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Witchfinder wrote:
Addy wrote:
Witchfinder wrote:
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I dont think there is anyone on the roster that would be good booking against Lesnar. Even if Goldberg were back in the WWE I dont think it would be a great match.


Kevin Owens, AJ Styles, Samoa Joe and Nakamura would all be great.

Samo Joe and Lesnar would be an amazing mean guy match. KO is great in anything.  AJ Styles makes everyone look like a million bucks and would be great in a face role against Brock.  Nakamura has an MMA background and is the King of Strong Style and has more charisma then the entire roster put together times 10.  He and Brock could definitely go toe to toe.

So there are options, but they probably won't pursue any of them.

Samoa Joe would be good i didnt think of that one. I dont think Owens and AJ Styles are even in the same league as Lesnar. If they didnt make Big Show so dopey a Big Show vs Lesnar would be good too, afterall he's beaten Lesnar before

What do you mean by KO and Styles not being in the same league as Brock?  Do you think that those guys aren't believable opponents for Brock?  Just wondering.

I dont think its believeable that AJ styles cant beat Lesnar, I mean look at Lesnar he's a beast! while It doesnt mean he's invinicble by any mean, the  same with KO I personally believe KO is over hyped.   AJ Styles i only know from his TNA days but in the end its all on how its written.   Even the Undertaker isn't in his league, More like Lesnar is in the Undertaker's league.


Lesnar lost to Cena and Cena couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag in an actual fight, so believability isn't high on WWE's list of concerns (which is probably one of their bigger problems.)

You could certainly book a face underdog Styles against Brock as a clash of "styles", no pun intended - ie David v. Goliath. If you want to protect Brock you have him beat Styles after a long match where Styles gets lots of offense. You could even have Styles steal a win by barely beating Brock. It's simple monster booking really.

KO would be the opposite with him as the cowardly heel vs a face Brock. KO is so good that he'd make it work like a charm.

I actually find most modern day Brock matches very boring. It's a million suplexes and then a finish. Meh.
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I actually find most modern day Brock matches very boring.  It's a million suplexes and then a finish.  Meh.  

I will always think about the "botched" Shooting star press, (which I only knew Billy Kidman to do until that).
In interviews the past few years , Brock has said he was lead to believe he should do it..well, he should practice it again, cuz if he nailed it would have blown everybody away. If he can train to get beat up in UFC, then leaping in the air should be nothing to him.
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I actually find most modern day Brock matches very boring.  It's a million suplexes and then a finish.  Meh.  

I will always think about the "botched" Shooting star press, (which I only knew Billy Kidman to do until that).
In interviews the past few years , Brock has said he was lead to believe he should do it..well, he should practice it again, cuz if he nailed it would have blown everybody away. If he can train to get beat up in UFC, then leaping in the air should be nothing to him.

That was brutal. Ouch!
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Witchfinder wrote:
Addy wrote:
Witchfinder wrote:
Addy wrote:
Witchfinder wrote:
Addy wrote:
I dont think there is anyone on the roster that would be good booking against Lesnar. Even if Goldberg were back in the WWE I dont think it would be a great match.


Kevin Owens, AJ Styles, Samoa Joe and Nakamura would all be great.

Samo Joe and Lesnar would be an amazing mean guy match. KO is great in anything.  AJ Styles makes everyone look like a million bucks and would be great in a face role against Brock.  Nakamura has an MMA background and is the King of Strong Style and has more charisma then the entire roster put together times 10.  He and Brock could definitely go toe to toe.

So there are options, but they probably won't pursue any of them.

Samoa Joe would be good i didnt think of that one. I dont think Owens and AJ Styles are even in the same league as Lesnar. If they didnt make Big Show so dopey a Big Show vs Lesnar would be good too, afterall he's beaten Lesnar before

What do you mean by KO and Styles not being in the same league as Brock?  Do you think that those guys aren't believable opponents for Brock?  Just wondering.

I dont think its believeable that AJ styles cant beat Lesnar, I mean look at Lesnar he's a beast! while It doesnt mean he's invinicble by any mean, the  same with KO I personally believe KO is over hyped.   AJ Styles i only know from his TNA days but in the end its all on how its written.   Even the Undertaker isn't in his league, More like Lesnar is in the Undertaker's league.


Lesnar lost to Cena and Cena couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag in an actual fight, so believability isn't high on WWE's list of concerns (which is probably one of their bigger problems.)

You could certainly book a face underdog Styles against Brock as a clash of "styles", no pun intended - ie David v. Goliath.  If you want to protect Brock you have him beat Styles after a long match where Styles gets lots of offense.  You could even have Styles steal a win by barely beating Brock.  It's simple monster booking really.

KO would be the opposite with him as the cowardly heel vs a face Brock.  KO is so good that he'd make it work like a charm.  

I actually find most modern day Brock matches very boring.  It's a million suplexes and then a finish.  Meh.  

Re-read that first line.... Cena beat Lesnar, Cuz he's Super Cena (sticks out chest) your right believeability is one of their problems. I mean rehire hornswoggle and have him beat Lesnar. Though WWE IMO has been in decline with quality ever since WCW's demise. I dont dislike AJ Styles in fact im glad he's in the WWE but I Just dont think he's the same caliber especially since he's got his own possee you know it wouldnt be a clean win if he beat Lesnar.
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Addy wrote:
Witchfinder wrote:
Addy wrote:
Witchfinder wrote:
Addy wrote:
Witchfinder wrote:
Addy wrote:
I dont think there is anyone on the roster that would be good booking against Lesnar. Even if Goldberg were back in the WWE I dont think it would be a great match.


Kevin Owens, AJ Styles, Samoa Joe and Nakamura would all be great.

Samo Joe and Lesnar would be an amazing mean guy match. KO is great in anything.  AJ Styles makes everyone look like a million bucks and would be great in a face role against Brock.  Nakamura has an MMA background and is the King of Strong Style and has more charisma then the entire roster put together times 10.  He and Brock could definitely go toe to toe.

So there are options, but they probably won't pursue any of them.

Samoa Joe would be good i didnt think of that one. I dont think Owens and AJ Styles are even in the same league as Lesnar. If they didnt make Big Show so dopey a Big Show vs Lesnar would be good too, afterall he's beaten Lesnar before

What do you mean by KO and Styles not being in the same league as Brock?  Do you think that those guys aren't believable opponents for Brock?  Just wondering.

I dont think its believeable that AJ styles cant beat Lesnar, I mean look at Lesnar he's a beast! while It doesnt mean he's invinicble by any mean, the  same with KO I personally believe KO is over hyped.   AJ Styles i only know from his TNA days but in the end its all on how its written.   Even the Undertaker isn't in his league, More like Lesnar is in the Undertaker's league.


Lesnar lost to Cena and Cena couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag in an actual fight, so believability isn't high on WWE's list of concerns (which is probably one of their bigger problems.)

You could certainly book a face underdog Styles against Brock as a clash of "styles", no pun intended - ie David v. Goliath.  If you want to protect Brock you have him beat Styles after a long match where Styles gets lots of offense.  You could even have Styles steal a win by barely beating Brock.  It's simple monster booking really.

KO would be the opposite with him as the cowardly heel vs a face Brock.  KO is so good that he'd make it work like a charm.  

I actually find most modern day Brock matches very boring.  It's a million suplexes and then a finish.  Meh.  

Re-read that first line.... Cena beat Lesnar, Cuz he's  Super Cena (sticks out chest) your right believeability is one of their problems. I mean rehire hornswoggle and have him beat Lesnar. Though WWE IMO has been in decline with quality ever since WCW's demise. I dont dislike AJ Styles in fact im glad he's in the WWE but I Just dont think he's the same caliber especially since he's got his own possee you know it wouldnt be a clean win if he beat Lesnar.

Right. Having AJ (or really anybody else) face Brock at Summerslam doesn't make any sense because they've done nothing to build to it. So they will just throw Orton in there because he's a name and have a nothing match.

WWE's booking is nonsensical and their product is virtually unwatchable. I like plenty of their roster, but they book them so badly that they can never get over. WWE makes it really tough to be a fan of their product.
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I miss the Attitude Era and of course DX
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I still wonder if the future booking for Brock Lesnar hinges on how he performs in UFC tomorrow.  I mean if he gets KO'd the whole world will know about it so it would make no sense to still book him like some unstoppable monster in WWE.

Oh wait, I used "make no sense" and WWE in the same sentence as if WWE actually cares about being logical.  I'm also still not fully convinced that the fix isn't in on Lesnar's UFC fight tomorrow night.  This whole "Lesnar fight in UFC again" thing just seems too convenient to happen before Summerslam  It's like Vince made a deal with Dana White that went something like "I'll loan you Brock this summer to fulfill the clause in his contract and to help boost your ratings.  Then you have him win convincingly so I can book him as a monster in Summerslam.  See, we both make money."

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Make what you will of this:

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/727053-mark-hunt-injured-heading-into-ufc-200

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I smell fix.  I've said that since the beginning when this was announced.

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Fix or not, now there is no way in hell Orton will beat Brock. No one would believe or accept it.
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Huh? Wha???? WWE buys UFC?

http://411mania.com/mma/ufc-reportedly-sells-for-4-billion/

It’s once again been reported that the UFC has been sold for $4 billion. TMZ has reportedly confirmed that the deal is done and that WME/IMG talent agency will be the new owners, with WME/IMG co-CEO Ari Emanuel described as someone who “will wield a lot of power” over the UFC.

Dana White will still serve as president of the company and the Fertittas will still have minority interest and a diminished role, but Lorenzo Fertitta will step down as CEO. The deal has been agreed upon, but the final legalities and signatures will take six to eight weeks to finish up.

A deal was rumored to have been done last month for a similar price to a combined ownership group of WME-IMG, the Dalian Wanda Group, The Kraft Group and Tencent Holdings, but the UFC denied those reports.
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If that's the case I'm sure they'll try and make Brock the concurrent UFC champ and WWE champ.
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Wrong initials, it's actually WME, not WWE:

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/727289-read-the-email-sent-by-zuffa-executives-to-athletes-informing-them-of-the-4-billion-ufc-sale
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Wrong initials, it's actually WME, not WWE:

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/727289-read-the-email-sent-by-zuffa-executives-to-athletes-informing-them-of-the-4-billion-ufc-sale

Ok, because even CNN was reporting it was WWE. Major typo there! I thought for sure since it said WWE that Brock's fight was a fix and they made him win since they were buying it the next day. Makes more sense for it to be WME because all the press releases say WWE with no mention of McMahon and I am sure he would have something to say.
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heheh when i read it the first time i thought it said WWE too, then at second glance the WME its the W and E that throw peeps off heh
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I don't know what happened but in the opening battle royal of RAW, I swore I saw a thinner version of Rhyno (despite knowing he's strictly NXT and not particularly fat-therfore wouldn't have lost enough weight to look like that) only to find out it was Bo Dallas. I actually remember making that mistake before. Laughing
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so who do you think the GMs are going to be?

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so who do you think the GMs are going to be?


Daniel Bryan on Smackdown and HHH on Raw.
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DB and Jericho.
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My law firm just gave me tickets to our suite for Raw on 7/25. Ha! I guess no other attorneys/clients wanted them. Too bad it's the first Raw after the brand split.
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That could be a good time to be seeing Raw.  They'll want to put on a strong show in support of the split.  Wouldn't want to lay an egg in the wake of what's supposed to be a monumental angle.

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My law firm just gave me tickets to our suite for Raw on 7/25. Ha!  I guess no other attorneys/clients wanted them.  Too bad it's the first Raw after the brand split.

That's awesome. Let us know how it is.

The CWC was really good, I really liked Gran Metalik & Cedric Alexander and Sean Maluta didn't impress me at first due to being related to the Usos and Roman but my match end I got mad respect for him.
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