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PostSubject: Tony Martin Tops   Tony Martin Tops Icon_minitimeMon Feb 24, 2014 9:10 pm

What songs from this era would make it into your top 50 Sabbath list?

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PostSubject: Re: Tony Martin Tops   Tony Martin Tops Icon_minitimeMon Feb 24, 2014 9:32 pm

None. Sorry.

And I like Tony Martin.
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PostSubject: Re: Tony Martin Tops   Tony Martin Tops Icon_minitimeMon Feb 24, 2014 9:34 pm

I am huge fan of Black Sabbath, I love all eras, but as much as I like Tony Martin I am not sure if I could shoehorn a song of his on a Top 30 list of Black Sabbath tunes.
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PostSubject: Re: Tony Martin Tops   Tony Martin Tops Icon_minitimeMon Feb 24, 2014 9:45 pm

I'm not sure that Ian Gillan would have a song in my top 30 so I'm pretty sure that Tony Martin won't.
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PostSubject: Re: Tony Martin Tops   Tony Martin Tops Icon_minitimeMon Feb 24, 2014 9:57 pm

Oh, I'm sure Ian wouldn't, and that's not to say I consider Tony a better singer, just that better songs were written w/him...
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PostSubject: Re: Tony Martin Tops   Tony Martin Tops Icon_minitimeMon Feb 24, 2014 9:58 pm

"When Death Calls" pretty obviously
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PostSubject: Re: Tony Martin Tops   Tony Martin Tops Icon_minitimeMon Feb 24, 2014 9:58 pm

Of course that one song I picked was not written w/him, but still...
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PostSubject: Re: Tony Martin Tops   Tony Martin Tops Icon_minitimeMon Feb 24, 2014 10:00 pm

I could pick more than a few from "Headless Cross", they may not all make my top 30, but they'd be up there...
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PostSubject: Re: Tony Martin Tops   Tony Martin Tops Icon_minitimeTue Feb 25, 2014 6:39 am

Well, let us see your top 30.
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PostSubject: Re: Tony Martin Tops   Tony Martin Tops Icon_minitimeTue Feb 25, 2014 7:34 am

Eh, that would take some time, and always be subject to change!
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PostSubject: Re: Tony Martin Tops   Tony Martin Tops Icon_minitimeTue Feb 25, 2014 7:42 am

"Devil and Daughter"
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PostSubject: Re: Tony Martin Tops   Tony Martin Tops Icon_minitimeTue Feb 25, 2014 7:48 am

Ok, I revised it, 30 might be pushing it for TM, although I still think at least the one I posted would crack it, but surely there must be a few for you that would crack the top 50...

Ancient Warrior
When Death Calls
Black Moon
Devil & Daughter
Nightwing
The Gates of Hell/Headless Cross
Hard Life To Love
The Eternal Idol

Nothing from the others would make it for me, some good jams on them, but I consider the first two by far the best...
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PostSubject: Re: Tony Martin Tops   Tony Martin Tops Icon_minitimeTue Feb 25, 2014 8:33 am

Honorable mention;

The Shinning
Nightmare
Kill in the Spirit World
Call of the Wild
Anno Mundi
Jerusalem
Sabbath Stones
Heaven in Black
I Witness
Crown of Thorns
Virtual Death
Dying For Love
Cardinal Sin
Get a Grip
Rusty Angels
Sick and Tired
I Won't Cry For You
Loser Get's It All
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PostSubject: Re: Tony Martin Tops   Tony Martin Tops Icon_minitimeTue Feb 25, 2014 11:04 am

There are definitely some good songs from the Tony Martin era but I wouldn't put them anywhere near the top of my favorite Black Sabbath.  In fact, I don't consider any of those albums to really be Black Sabbath.  I view them as Tony Iommi solo albums.
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PostSubject: Re: Tony Martin Tops   Tony Martin Tops Icon_minitimeTue Feb 25, 2014 11:38 am

Yea, but the first two are "True Sabbath" for me, especially "Headless Cross!"
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PostSubject: Re: Tony Martin Tops   Tony Martin Tops Icon_minitimeTue Feb 25, 2014 11:54 am

Out of all the ballads Sabbath ever did, this is easily my favorite!

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PostSubject: Re: Tony Martin Tops   Tony Martin Tops Icon_minitimeTue Feb 25, 2014 11:59 am

Eye Witness
Nightwing
Devil & Daughter
The Shining
Headless Cross
Virtual Death
Valhalla

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PostSubject: Re: Tony Martin Tops   Tony Martin Tops Icon_minitimeTue Feb 25, 2014 12:01 pm

Interesting note about the 'Cross Purposes' album:

"Evil Eye" written by Butler, Iommi, Martin, and Eddie Van Halen (who was not credited, due to restrictions from his record label, Warner Bros. Records).

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PostSubject: Re: Tony Martin Tops   Tony Martin Tops Icon_minitimeTue Feb 25, 2014 12:18 pm

I did not like "Valhalla" at all, after the cool intro, I was expecting something more epic, like "Sign of the Southern Cross", something like that...
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PostSubject: Re: Tony Martin Tops   Tony Martin Tops Icon_minitimeTue Feb 25, 2014 12:20 pm

Shawn Of Fire wrote:
Interesting note about the 'Cross Purposes' album:

"Evil Eye" written by Butler, Iommi, Martin, and Eddie Van Halen (who was not credited, due to restrictions from his record label, Warner Bros. Records).

Eddie originally planned to make a guest solo appearance on that song but the schedules didn't work out.
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PostSubject: Re: Tony Martin Tops   Tony Martin Tops Icon_minitimeTue Feb 25, 2014 12:27 pm

If you read NSD, it may very well be Eddie, Geoff Nicholls left that as a mystery...
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PostSubject: Re: Tony Martin Tops   Tony Martin Tops Icon_minitimeTue Feb 25, 2014 12:51 pm

My favorite Tony Martin era tracks:

Hard Life To Love
Born To Lose
Lost Forever
The Eternal Idol
Devil & Daughter
The Headless Cross
Nightwing
Anno Mundi
The Battle of Tyr/Odin's Court/Valhalla
Psychophobia
The Hand That Rocks The Cradle
Can't Get Close Enough To You
Kiss Of Death
Loser Gets It All

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PostSubject: Re: Tony Martin Tops   Tony Martin Tops Icon_minitimeTue Feb 25, 2014 1:10 pm

Ha, pretty cool!
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PostSubject: Re: Tony Martin Tops   Tony Martin Tops Icon_minitimeTue Feb 25, 2014 1:26 pm

I saw this tour here, unfortunately is was not at the Blossom Music Center as the schedule indicated, but at a much smaller venue; the Cleveland Agora. Must've been moved due to lack of interest, as this tour was cut short in America, only lasted two weeks. Damn shame, lot of folks missed out on a great show and album!
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PostSubject: Re: Tony Martin Tops   Tony Martin Tops Icon_minitimeTue Feb 25, 2014 1:34 pm

I saw the Forbidden tour in Seattle with Motorhead opening.
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