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007 Metal is my Life
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| Subject: Re: Geoff Tate Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:02 am | |
| - Fat Freddy wrote:
- I couldn't resist anymore... I simply had to write a HubPage about the Queensryche drama. I titled it "Meet the New Queensryche -- Both of them!"
http://fatfreddyscat.hubpages.com/t/331e46
Good read ! You captured the drama perfectly. | |
| | | Fat Freddy Metal, Movies, Beer
Number of posts : 37971 Age : 54
| Subject: Re: Geoff Tate Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:32 am | |
| - 007 wrote:
- Fat Freddy wrote:
- I couldn't resist anymore... I simply had to write a HubPage about the Queensryche drama. I titled it "Meet the New Queensryche -- Both of them!"
http://fatfreddyscat.hubpages.com/t/331e46
Good read ! You captured the drama perfectly. Thanx dude. I've been planning on doing a Queensryche piece ever since the "Rising West" thing first blew up but since events kept getting weirder, I never found the right time to sit down and do it. When Geoff Tate announced his Super Friends lineup over the weekend I said "that's it, I gotta do it now." _________________ "If you're a false, don't entry, because you'll be burned and died!"
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| | | thejokeriv Metal is my Life
Number of posts : 12811 Age : 55
| Subject: Re: Geoff Tate Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:36 am | |
| - Fat Freddy wrote:
- 007 wrote:
- Fat Freddy wrote:
- I couldn't resist anymore... I simply had to write a HubPage about the Queensryche drama. I titled it "Meet the New Queensryche -- Both of them!"
http://fatfreddyscat.hubpages.com/t/331e46
Good read ! You captured the drama perfectly. Thanx dude. I've been planning on doing a Queensryche piece ever since the "Rising West" thing first blew up but since events kept getting weirder, I never found the right time to sit down and do it. When Geoff Tate announced his Super Friends lineup over the weekend I said "that's it, I gotta do it now." Kelly Gray and Glen Drover - the "wonder twins" | |
| | | Fat Freddy Metal, Movies, Beer
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| Subject: Re: Geoff Tate Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:03 am | |
| - thejokeriv wrote:
Kelly Gray and Glen Drover - the "wonder twins" "Wonder Twin Powers - ACTIVATE! Form of -- Chris DeGarmo! Form of -- Michael Wilton!" _________________ "If you're a false, don't entry, because you'll be burned and died!"
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| | | thejokeriv Metal is my Life
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| Subject: Re: Geoff Tate Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:48 am | |
| When I saw the lineup announcement my first thought was; who the hell is Glen Drover and Kelly Gray? Then I looked it up and realized guitarists on mediocre Queensryche and Megadeth albums...no wonder I didn't know their names.
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| | | Fat Freddy Metal, Movies, Beer
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| Subject: Re: Geoff Tate Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:56 am | |
| Kelly Gray is also a producer, he's worked with Candlebox (!) and produced Dokken's Shadowlife album. _________________ "If you're a false, don't entry, because you'll be burned and died!"
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| | | 007 Metal is my Life
Number of posts : 40990 Age : 56
| Subject: Re: Geoff Tate Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:01 pm | |
| I only knew of Kelly Gray as a producer. I had no idea he was a guitar player too. | |
| | | Dark Horseman Metal Wanker
Number of posts : 6039 Age : 56
| Subject: Re: Geoff Tate Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:09 pm | |
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Kelly Gray is also a producer, he's worked with Candlebox (!) and produced Dokken's Shadowlife album.
That's not encouraging. | |
| | | Shawn Of Fire Metal is Forever
Number of posts : 6719 Age : 53
| Subject: Re: Geoff Tate Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:15 pm | |
| - 007 wrote:
- I only knew of Kelly Gray as a producer. I had no idea he was a guitar player too.
He produced and played on Queensryche's Q2K album. I saw him live with them in 2000...his style did not blend well with the older material. _________________ FINAL SIGN
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| | | Fat Freddy Metal, Movies, Beer
Number of posts : 37971 Age : 54
| Subject: Re: Geoff Tate Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:17 pm | |
| - Dark Horseman wrote:
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Kelly Gray is also a producer, he's worked with Candlebox (!) and produced Dokken's Shadowlife album.
That's not encouraging. It wasn't intended to be encouraging. _________________ "If you're a false, don't entry, because you'll be burned and died!"
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| | | Eyesore Metal is my Life
Number of posts : 12815 Age : 49
| Subject: Re: Geoff Tate Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:36 pm | |
| He was also in Scott Rockenfeld's side-project, Slave To The System.
And didn't Gray have something to do with Sweaty Nipples? | |
| | | A Handful of Wayne Metal is Forever
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| Subject: Re: Geoff Tate Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:52 pm | |
| - Eyesore wrote:
- And didn't Gray have something to do with Sweaty Nipples?
Thats possible. He is a little on the heavy side, isn't he? _________________ | |
| | | Eyesore Metal is my Life
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| | | | kmorg Metal is my Life
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| Subject: Re: Geoff Tate Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:23 pm | |
| http://klaq.com/which-version-of-queensryche-is-the-most-interesting-to-you/
The fans have spoken. _________________ | |
| | | Fat Freddy Metal, Movies, Beer
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| Subject: Re: Geoff Tate Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:31 pm | |
| - kmorg wrote:
- http://klaq.com/which-version-of-queensryche-is-the-most-interesting-to-you/
The fans have spoken. ...and eight percent of them are saying "Where the hell is Chris DeGarmo?" _________________ "If you're a false, don't entry, because you'll be burned and died!"
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| | | manny mini boss
Number of posts : 21101 Age : 54
| Subject: Re: Geoff Tate Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:05 pm | |
| It is silly for Geoff Tate to insist he is Queensryche, if anyone could have laid claims to the name it would have been Chris DeGarmo, but he chose to walk away and even sold his percentage of the name back in the band, Tate should have taken lessons from his old friend, instead of turning both his own name and his band's name to sause. | |
| | | Eyesore Metal is my Life
Number of posts : 12815 Age : 49
| Subject: Re: Geoff Tate Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:12 am | |
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- NIGHT RANGER guitarist Brad Gillis has recorded a guest solo on a track on the new album from the Geoff Tate-fronted version of QUEENSRŸCHE, due later in the year via the Los Angeles-based independent label Cleopatra Records. Tate says: "Brad is an amazing player and completely shredded through the entire track."
Although a lineup for Tate's QUEENSRŸCHE was originally announced in the fall of 2012, things have changed. The band will now feature Tate along with bassist Rudy Sarzo (OZZY OSBOURNE, DIO, WHITESNAKE, QUIET RIOT), guitarist Kelly Gray (QUEENSRŸCHE 1998-2001), keyboardist Randy Gane and new additions, guitarist Robert Sarzo (QUIET RIOT, HURRICANE) and drummer Simon Wright (AC/DC, DIO, RHINO BUCKET).
Wright takes over for previously announced drummer Bobby Blotzer, who will be returning to RATT as an integral part of the band that made him famous.
"I'm very much looking forward to being involved in the QUEENSRŸCHE project with Geoff," stated Wright. "I've always admired his singing and songwriting and working with Rudy Sarzo again is going to be cool! Between this and my other project, DIO DISCIPLES, I look forward to a very busy year!"
Other guest musicians on the new album from the Geoff Tate-fronted version of QUEENSRŸCHE include legendary guitar slinger K.K. Downing of JUDAS PRIEST, KING'S X guitarist Ty Tabor and Blotzer.
Tabor comments, "I'm very happy that Geoff considered me for this record. It will be great to play with all of these great musicians."
Beginning in early April, Tate's QUEENSRŸCHE will be hitting the road to celebrate the 25th anniversary of the band's epic 1988 release, "Operation: Mindcrime", performing all fifteen songs from the album along with other well-known hits and rarities from the catalog they've compiled over the past 30 years.
"I try to surround myself with the best players available and feel our longtime fans deserve nothing less," says Tate. "I expect the forthcoming effort to be one of our best yet."
Tate, who was fired from QUEENSRŸCHE in June 2012 after fronting the group for three decades, last year sought to prevent his former bandmates from touring and operating under the QUEENSRŸCHE name without him. While ruling against Tate, the presiding judge determined that there was no legal hurdle in Tate also using the name with an all-new lineup of musicians. "I don't see any reason that Mr. Tate can't have the benefit, if he gets other members, of whatever name he uses of using the brand," Superior Court Judge Carol A. Schapira said during the July 13, 2012 court hearing. "I think [doing that would be] inherently confusing, although I'm sure the market can get these things sorted out," she added.
Last November, Tate released his first solo CD in over a decade titled "Kings & Thieves" (InsideOut Music) and toured with his solo band in support of the CD, which included dates with the legendary ALICE COOPER. You know what he's doing, right? Gathering a bunch of "name" musicians for his band, then bringing on a bunch of "name" guests. He's also going to release this before the other guys release their album. Guaranteed. Sleazy. | |
| | | Shawn Of Fire Metal is Forever
Number of posts : 6719 Age : 53
| Subject: Re: Geoff Tate Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:18 am | |
| - manny wrote:
- It is silly for Geoff Tate to insist he is Queensryche, if anyone could have laid claims to the name it would have been Chris DeGarmo, but he chose to walk away and even sold his percentage of the name back in the band, Tate should have taken lessons from his old friend, instead of turning both his own name and his band's name to sause.
See, I don't think any single person can say THEY are Queensryche. Queensryche was the result of the chemistry between two, at times three, people...DeGarmo, Tate, Wilton. DeGarmo may have been a rudder, but without Tate and/or Wilton in the mix those early albums would not have been what they were. They both contributed tons...look at the writing credits. _________________ FINAL SIGN
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| | | Temple of Blood Metal is Forever
Number of posts : 5704 Age : 49
| Subject: Re: Geoff Tate Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:31 am | |
| Some have more of a claim than others.
I think "Chris DeGarmo's QUEENSRYCHE" makes more sense than Geoff Tate's, Michael Wilton's, or Eddie Jackson's. | |
| | | Eyesore Metal is my Life
Number of posts : 12815 Age : 49
| Subject: Re: Geoff Tate Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:47 am | |
| - Temple of Blood wrote:
- Some have more of a claim than others.
I think "Chris DeGarmo's QUEENSRYCHE" makes more sense than Geoff Tate's, Michael Wilton's, or Eddie Jackson's. Can't argue with that. | |
| | | manny mini boss
Number of posts : 21101 Age : 54
| Subject: Re: Geoff Tate Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:48 am | |
| - Shawn Of Fire wrote:
- manny wrote:
- It is silly for Geoff Tate to insist he is Queensryche, if anyone could have laid claims to the name it would have been Chris DeGarmo, but he chose to walk away and even sold his percentage of the name back in the band, Tate should have taken lessons from his old friend, instead of turning both his own name and his band's name to sause.
See, I don't think any single person can say THEY are Queensryche. Queensryche was the result of the chemistry between two, at times three, people...DeGarmo, Tate, Wilton. DeGarmo may have been a rudder, but without Tate and/or Wilton in the mix those early albums would not have been what they were. They both contributed tons...look at the writing credits. I don't disagree with your point. Actually I 100% agree, I am a fan of those early albums, even albums after DeGarmo left, but to see a band I once loved turned into a soap opera, is pretty disappointing. I of course do not know the man, but seeing the statements and the behaviour of Geoff Tate has been a let down. I also figured he was one of the classier guys in the hard rock world, not some petty bully. As the old saying goes " trust the art not the artist" | |
| | | Shawn Of Fire Metal is Forever
Number of posts : 6719 Age : 53
| Subject: Re: Geoff Tate Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:02 am | |
| - Temple of Blood wrote:
- Some have more of a claim than others.
I think "Chris DeGarmo's QUEENSRYCHE" makes more sense than Geoff Tate's, Michael Wilton's, or Eddie Jackson's. If anyone cares, here's the 5 classic albums songwriting breakdown according to Allmusic.com. I don't have the CDs in front of me to verify, but here's how it fleshes out among 42 songs: DeGarmo ONLY - 11Best I Can - DeGarmo Silent Lucidity - DeGarmo Queen of the Reich - DeGarmo Prophecy - DeGarmo I Remember Now - DeGarmo Anarchy-X - DeGarmo The Mission - DeGarmo Waiting for 22 - DeGarmo En Force - DeGarmo The Whisper - DeGarmo I Will Remember - DeGarmo DGarmo/Tate/Wilton COMBO - 6The Thin Line - Degarmo, Tate, Wilton Hand on Heart - Degarmo, Tate, Wilton Operation: Mindcrime - Degarmo, Tate, Wilton Roads to Madness - Degarmo, Tate, Wilton London - DeGarmo, Tate, Wilton Screaming in Digital - DeGarmo, Tate, Wilton Tate ONLY - 4 (need to verify w/ CD credits)Jet City Woman - Tate Warning - Tate Take Hold of the Flame - Tate Child of Fire - Tate Tate/Wilton COMBO - 11 Resistance - Tate, Wilton Empire - Tate, Wilton Revolution Calling - Tate, Wilton Speak - Tate, Wilton Spreading the Disease - Tate, Wilton The Needle Lies - Tate, Wilton My Empty Room - Tate, Wilton Before the Storm - Tate, Wilton Walk in the Shadows - Tate, Wilton I Dream in Infrared - Tate, Wilton Chemical Youth (We Are Rebellion) - Tate, Wilton DeGarmo/Wilton COMBO - 3 One and Only - DeGarmo, Wilton Nightrider - DeGarmo, Wilton Blinded - DeGarmo, Wilton Other - 6Della Brown - DeGarmo, Tate, Rockenfield Another Rainy Night (Without You) - DeGarmo, Tate, Jackson Electric Requiem - Tate, Rockenfield Deliverance - no credit listed N M 156 - no credit listed Gonna Get Close to You - cover song Credit Percentage (counted if their name appears in the writing credit at all)DeGarmo - 52% - 22 of 42 Tate - 57% - 24 of 42 Wilton - 47%- 20 of 42 Rockenfield - 4% -2 of 42 Jackson - 2% - 1 of 42 NOTESDeGarmo wrote more songs on his own than anyone Tate has his name appear in credits more than anyone Even split between DeGarmo ONLY (11) and Tate/Wilton COMBO (11) _________________ FINAL SIGN
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| | | Citanul Metal master
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| Subject: Re: Geoff Tate Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:29 am | |
| - Shawn Of Fire wrote:
- If anyone cares, here's the 5 classic albums songwriting breakdown according to Allmusic.com. I don't have the CDs in front of me to verify, but here's how it fleshes out among 42 songs:
It looks like you don't have the DeGarmo/Tate collaborations. Here's the list going by the credits on Wikipedia, which is probably more accurate than Allmusic. DeGarmo only - 10 songsQueen of the Reich Prophecy En Force The Whisper I Will Remember Anarchy-X The Mission Waiting for 22 Best I Can Silent Lucidity DeGarmo/Wilton - 4 songsNightrider Blinded Surgical Strike One and Only DeGarmo/Tate - 11 songsThe Lady Wore Black No Sanctuary Take Hold of the Flame The Killing Words Neue Regel Suite Sister Mary Breaking the Silence I Don't Believe in Love Eyes of a Stranger Jet City Woman Anybody Listening? Tate/Wilton - 12 songsWarning Before the Storm Child of Fire I Dream in Infrared Chemical Youth (We Are Rebellion) Revolution Calling Speak Spreading the Disease The Needle Lies My Empty Room Empire Resistance DeGarmo/Tate/Wilton - 9 songsNM 156 Roads to Madness Walk in the Shadows London Screaming in Digital I Remember Now Operation: Mindcrime The Thin Line Hand on Heart Other - 5 songsDeliverance - Wilton Gonna Get Close to You - cover Electric Requiem - Rockenfield, Tate Della Brown - DeGarmo, Rockenfield, Tate Another Rainy Night (Without You) - DeGarmo, Jackson, Tate Credit PercentageDeGarmo - 36/51 (69%) Tate - 35/51 (69%) Wilton - 26/51 (51%) Rockenfield - 2/51 (4%) Jackson - 1/51 (2%) | |
| | | Eyesore Metal is my Life
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| Subject: Re: Geoff Tate Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:25 am | |
| Tate solely wrote one QR song: "Convict." All 8 music-free seconds. | |
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