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Along the lines of what ShadowAngel said about following a script vs. let it come natural, I found an article on WrestleZone about that subject (also validating what I said about not necessarily having to go back to the the attitude era):

http://www.wrestlezone.com/editorials/264617-the-anti-antagonist-cant-see-the-stars

I used to like watching Honky Tonk Man get his ass whipped on TV, knowing it was just a character. Then I heard him talk (not in kayfabe) and realized I really wanted to see him get his ass whipped. He comes off as a self absorbed jackass who thinks himself as a bigger part of wrestling than he ever was. This news makes it seem to me that he hasn't gotten any more likeable:

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/264789-exclusive-former-ic-champion-gets-drunk-bashes-jerry-lawler

Brian Chirstopher has more self control than I do. If I had his athletic build, I would have knocked that fatass hasbeen out cold.

Sad to hear about Buddy "Jack " Roberts. I loved the Freebirds. I always felt it was sad that Roberts was always the one to lose in those six man tags. And it really sucked when WCW did the Freebirds without Roberts. Just wasn't the same without him. I remember in the last days of World Class when they had Roberts managing the SST against Hayes. I loved that feud. Roberts made such a great manager. RIP.

I always felt Honky Tonk Man was great because you got the sense that he really was that jerk in real life.

jstate wrote:

Sad to hear about Buddy "Jack " Roberts. I loved the Freebirds. I always felt it was sad that Roberts was always the one to lose in those six man tags. And it really sucked when WCW did the Freebirds without Roberts. Just wasn't the same without him. I remember in the last days of World Class when they had Roberts managing the SST against Hayes. I loved that feud. Roberts made such a great manager. RIP.

I always felt Honky Tonk Man was great because you got the sense that he really was that jerk in real life.

Oh, he was a great heel despite not being very remarkable in-ring performer. As far as the Freebirds, I was only familiar with their last days in WCW and their World Class days but it is sad news. BTW, I always though Michael PS Hays was hard to watch as mild mannered Doc Hendricks when he got to WWF. You knew he would be able to handle his own against the heels he interviewed but he played the part of an easily pushed around guy. It was as hard to accept him like that as it is these days to accept Prince Albert/A-Train as a Japanese monster.

Most of wrestling continues to bore me (though the in-ring action isn't half bad), however, I am interested in seeing where The Shield angle is going. I just hope they don't screw up like they did with the Nexus.

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BTW, I always though Michael PS Hays was hard to watch as mild mannered Doc Hendricks when he got to WWF

Yeah that was painful. Even worse was the way he would shill the merchandise. Sad thing about it was I thought he was a great announcer in the UWF and then in WCW. I used to love the way on the saturday morning show he would always play it like he was hung over from the night before partying. And I have the feeling it wasn't much of an act.

DallasBlack wrote:

Most of wrestling continues to bore me (though the in-ring action isn't half bad), however, I am interested in seeing where The Shield angle is going. I just hope they don't screw up like they did with the Nexus.

That Shield angle is just a ripoff of the Aces and Eights angle TNA has been doing and that's angle is just a ripoff of the old "invading forces" angle that's been done a million times. And that one guy in The Shield (I think he's the one with platinum highlights in his hair) looks like the biggest wuss this side of X Pac; I think even I could kick his ass.

tohostudios wrote:

DallasBlack wrote:

Most of wrestling continues to bore me (though the in-ring action isn't half bad), however, I am interested in seeing where The Shield angle is going. I just hope they don't screw up like they did with the Nexus.

That Shield angle is just a ripoff of the Aces and Eights angle TNA has been doing and that's angle is just a ripoff of the old "invading forces" angle that's been done a million times. And that one guy in The Shield (I think he's the one with platinum highlights in his hair) looks like the biggest wuss this side of X Pac; I think even I could kick his ass.

I'm aware that it's a ripoff, but done right it could work. The only problem is when they drop the ball with it, which I fear they will do (and have done too many times). However, it is still the only interesting thing in WWE right now, maybe not new or innovative, but better than Cena and AJ or the squashing of Brad Maddox (those are really the only stories right now).

DallasBlack wrote:

tohostudios wrote:

DallasBlack wrote:

Most of wrestling continues to bore me (though the in-ring action isn't half bad), however, I am interested in seeing where The Shield angle is going. I just hope they don't screw up like they did with the Nexus.

That Shield angle is just a ripoff of the Aces and Eights angle TNA has been doing and that's angle is just a ripoff of the old "invading forces" angle that's been done a million times. And that one guy in The Shield (I think he's the one with platinum highlights in his hair) looks like the biggest wuss this side of X Pac; I think even I could kick his ass.

I'm aware that it's a ripoff, but done right it could work. The only problem is when they drop the ball with it, which I fear they will do (and have done too many times). However, it is still the only interesting thing in WWE right now, maybe not new or innovative, but better than Cena and AJ or the squashing of Brad Maddox (those are really the only stories right now).

I like Damian Sandow. I hope he continues the schtick he started this past Monday where he picks a "fan" to humiliate by asking them 3 questions where the first 2 are easy then he hits them with something the average wrestling fan wouldn't know. The "fan" was obviously a plant but I thought it was still a funny gimmick.

I find i lose interest in the current affiars of Rasslin I might watch a documentry here and there they release (Like I want the NWO one) but all Wrestling does for me now a days is disappoint

tohostudios wrote:

DallasBlack wrote:

tohostudios wrote:

DallasBlack wrote:

Most of wrestling continues to bore me (though the in-ring action isn't half bad), however, I am interested in seeing where The Shield angle is going. I just hope they don't screw up like they did with the Nexus.

That Shield angle is just a ripoff of the Aces and Eights angle TNA has been doing and that's angle is just a ripoff of the old "invading forces" angle that's been done a million times. And that one guy in The Shield (I think he's the one with platinum highlights in his hair) looks like the biggest wuss this side of X Pac; I think even I could kick his ass.

I'm aware that it's a ripoff, but done right it could work. The only problem is when they drop the ball with it, which I fear they will do (and have done too many times). However, it is still the only interesting thing in WWE right now, maybe not new or innovative, but better than Cena and AJ or the squashing of Brad Maddox (those are really the only stories right now).

I like Damian Sandow. I hope he continues the schtick he started this past Monday where he picks a "fan" to humiliate by asking them 3 questions where the first 2 are easy then he hits them with something the average wrestling fan wouldn't know. The "fan" was obviously a plant but I thought it was still a funny gimmick.

Yeah, Sandow's gimick is a win. They just need to get him better opponents as beating Santino doesn't advance his character at all. I understand with Cody Rhodes out, they're probably buying time til his partner returns but still, give him a meaningful win.

I know this commercial for an old wrestling video game is not a real commercial and is just a fan made one, but it's hilarious.

In spirit of the Holidays, here is a classic WWE/F moment:



And for those who don't know, that is ECW's very own Balls Mahoney:

WWE TLC saw two turns. Alberto Del Rio turns face and helps Miz fight off 3MB and AJ turns heel and helps Ziggler defeat Cena. Aparently, The Shield impressed a lot of people with their performance though it's hard for me to judge just from reading the results. Also suprisingly, they keep the title on Big Show.

Just to show WWE's contempt for the WWE Universe, Del Rio and Miz needed a third partner to take on 3MB. The crowd chants loudly for Ryder and the writers react by givng Miz and Rio:



I can't stand Ryder and don't understand his appeal, but that choice of a tag team partner is just a slap in the face to the fans they claim they want to please.

Give me a break! The worm eating hippo/boar (reference to his teeth), The Boogeyman is back. For those who stopped watching wresting before he showed up, be glad you don't know who he is. Hopefully he was just there for a one time thing as it's hard enough to pay attention two WWE as it is.

DallasBlack wrote:

Give me a break! The worm eating hippo/boar (reference to his teeth), The Boogeyman is back. For those who stopped watching wresting before he showed up, be glad you don't know who he is. Hopefully he was just there for a one time thing as it's hard enough to pay attention two WWE as it is.

I actually thought bringing back the Boogyman for a one off appearance was pretty funny. It also reminds me of how bland and stale the product is now when I actually find him more interesting than most of the characters they have now.

tohostudios wrote:

DallasBlack wrote:

Give me a break! The worm eating hippo/boar (reference to his teeth), The Boogeyman is back. For those who stopped watching wresting before he showed up, be glad you don't know who he is. Hopefully he was just there for a one time thing as it's hard enough to pay attention two WWE as it is.

I actually thought bringing back the Boogyman for a one off appearance was pretty funny. It also reminds me of how bland and stale the product is now when I actually find him more interesting than most of the characters they have now.

If it's a one time thing, I'm OK with it. However, from what I understand there were talks in the past about bringing him back. Also, looks like TNA's lawsuit against WWE is settled as Ric Flair is back and they were saying they didn't want to bring him back until then. And now it seems Cena is Superstar of the year again, I cry foul on the voting. Either that or there are more kids with phones that I thought.

When talking about Cody Rhodes mustache, JBL mentioned Blackjack Bradshaw. I wonder how many people watching wrestling today even remembers that (or Justin Hawk Bradshaw for that matter-let alone the origional Blackjacks which I didn't know about til well after I got into wrestling).

Yeah, the TNA lawsuit has to be over as Tommy Dreamer is back as well. Unless WWE decided to take a 'what the hell' approach, but that seems unlikely given how careful they are with that stuff.

I just turned Raw on for a few minutes and Eddige Guerros wife was on there yelling at some other guy. My gf started laughing at how stupid it was and I said its fine to turn the channel, thats why I don't watch it anymore. I'll still play the video games but watching it? Count me out. Its not the same. I don't care about any of the new wrestlers and everyone almost looks the same. I don't know what they would have to do to ever make me watch again but they need to do something, not that that has been anything new within the last 10 years or so.

I doubt they will ever get you (or anyone else who quit years ago) back. For some reason, most people who leave the fandom hardly ever come back. The attitude era being the exception but most of those who came back for that period didn't stay long (once WWE and WCW merged and Vince bought out all the competition they left again).

The TLC PPV was actually very good. The six-man tag match was outstanding in terms of getting the Shield over as a dominating heel stable. It wasn't some epic of technical wrestling, but it was a great brawl in which the bad guys simply dismantled some of the strongest babyfaces in the promotion by using superior teamwork. Shame about Daniel Bryan eating the pin yet again, though.

And the Ziggler vs. Cena match was really good, although if WWE was smart they'd be doing a double-turn of those guys like yesterday. Cena's character is simply an insufferable douchebag and he came across as a bully in the match while Ziggler looked like a plucky underdog who has no quit in him. But it's WWE, so of course Cena continues to get booked as a righteous superhero and everyone against him is a mustache-twirling villain. Reminds me of the late 80s/early 90s when WWF fans started getting sick of Hulk Hogan, but at least back then he had the decency to move to another promotion. I can't see TNA prying Cena away from WWE anytime soon.

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I doubt they will ever get you (or anyone else who quit years ago) back. For some reason, most people who leave the fandom hardly ever come back.

I don't know whether it is just nostalgia or not but I still love the old stuff I grew up with. So I'm still a fan of that. Strange thing is I will admit that today's wrestlers do far more amazing things and the matches a lot more fast paced but still I just can't get into it. Of course I long ago understood that today's pro wrestling left me far behind way back in the nineties. At least I hung on to a lot of my old tapes.

I stopped watching around the time the Rock got big. I don't think I could make 5 minutes watching it now, but show me something like an AWA match from 1985 and I'll watch for the duration. The old stuff had some sort of magic that lacks these days. I guess that's nostalgia.

In 1985 I was all about the AWA. It was my favorite stuff at the time. Mainly due to Stan Hansen. And the fact it was on ESPN too.